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Also, I've had no problems with my LR3. But I'm not going to post about that every few days. ;-)
And fwiw:
- I had no problems the first few thousand miles
- These are all minor problems if solved once and for all
- I love the LR3
- But anything systematic I would like addressed properly, as I am sure it will be.
Mike
I finished up my mudflap install, the fronts were easy, just raise the LR3 all the way, then turn the wheels depending on which side you're working on. The rear is a bit tougher because you have to install a metal bracket which is hard to get at (the muffler is in the way). Just go to your friendly Sears and get a multi-angle screw driver and that'll do the trick. Looks great and highly recommend it. About an hour's work of time.
Still waiting for the stick on side molding to get here and I'll post a report on that too.
Anyway, what I was talking about in my post was the dial on the stalk.. I have found no difference in the sensitivity in any setting.
Also, the nav manual reads (page 5 of my manual under 'Switching On')...
"If the screen is already displaying another function (radio, phone, etc.), touch the on-screen 'Home' button to access the Home Menu."
...from the root, my nav screen only allows me to show Navigation, 4x4 Info and Settings. How do I show radio or phone on the nav screen?
The system is built by DENSO, one of the big players. Denso is also used by Lexus/Toyota, Jaguar, Cadillac, and others.
I would empahsise that the LR3 is a great vehicle 99.99% of the time. Once my 'glitches' are solved then I'm sure I'll be 100% happy. Unfortunately rubbishing LR and returning the vehicle as a lemon aren't really an option because the only vehicle that I'd want to replace it would be ... another LR3 (ok, maybe the RR Sport ...).
The good news, I suppose, is that all who follow behind our product refinement trailblazing will get to benefit. Great vehicle and if they gave me my money back I'd just buy another one.
I'm impressed, GW! If you've had your LR3 for 2 weeks then that works out to about 12 seconds of bad time! ;-)
Seriously, congrats on your new vehicle!
tidester, host
I would empahsise that the LR3 is a great vehicle 99.99% of the time.
I'm impressed, GW! If you've had your LR3 for 2 weeks then that works out to about 12 seconds of bad time!
Well, I've had it for somewhat more than two weeks! It's got 5500 miles on it now so it's a bit more than brand new now. I worked out my unhappyness factor as the amount of time I've had it divided by the number of days that it's been with the dealer so it's actually about 97% at the moment. :P
But having said that, I too would buy the very same car again if I had to buy another car.
My list of dislikes below are pretty minor. Other than those I do have a small wind whistle sound that I have been unable track down.
Dislikes:
1. Clock is in a difficult to read position. It should be on the message screen right in front of the driver.
2. The arm rest has to flipped up to buckle the driver seat belt. Probably the same case in the passenger seat but I am NEVER the passenger.
3. CD changing is somewhat slow and noisy.
4. Trying to buckle around a child booster seat is a two-handed adventure due to the fold-down buckle receiver. For adult seating this feature is a plus.
5. Not much storage for stuff (jumper cables, tools, etc) in the back.
I'm impressed, GW! If you've had your LR3 for 2 weeks then that works out to about 12 seconds of bad time!"
Well, actually 120 seconds. :sick:
Yikes! The infamous sneaky slippery floating decimal point strikes again! Thanks for the correction. :surprise:
tidester, host
There was a G4 LR-3 on display based on a HSE. Pretty awesome. Also, an 06 RR was on display which will shares the Jag engine with the LR-3 in place of the BMW unit.
(from edmunds.com)
"Integrated body frame is just a fancy way of saying that the LR3's traditional ladder frame is aided in crash-worthiness by a body that has almost unibodylike strength. In most typical body-on-frame designs, the frame provides all the strength while the bolted-on body simply holds the passengers. The LR3's body, though, has extra strong sills that literally envelope its frame. So closely does it wrap around, in fact, that in the case of an accident, the body is forced into the frame rails greatly adding to its strength. Land Rover says that this significantly increases resistance during offset crashes, the common bugaboo of body-on-frame designs."
The 300 hp 4.4 V-8 used in the LR3 is based on Jaguar's 4.2 V-8 but modified for off-road duty. Jaguar's V-8 is not a Ford V-8. Jaguar's 4.2 liter V-8 does not have the potential timing chain tensioner or nikasil problems of the 4.0 liter V-8 from the 1997-2000 XK8.
Check this link:
http://www.jagweb.com/aj6eng/v8_performance.html
The bids start at $30.00.
BTW - In SOuthern California, dealers are still saying that they will not accept x-plan on any HSE...claim to have list of folks waiting, however on my drive by the dealer...every day....they have a couple of HSEs just sitting there.
So depending on the ages of your kids, this could be an option for you (plus they can take the player in other cars or planes, etc.)
And it looks like LR has the stalling problem fixed (yea!). New program for transmission shifting or such.
What have others been paying for the loaded HSE? Is the 52k range common or are there bigger deals happening. A car MSRP for 54 and change can come out around 52 and change. Anybody have any new wins for sales deals????
Here is one for THIS forum....do the number buttons on the radio work the phone with the blue tooth? Do they server any other functions. Last time I had a test drive they did not provide a function other then for the radio, I think.
The LR3 radio has a phone button and the radio presets double as a keypad with * and # included. The LCD display is also alpha numeric to show phone info.
So in the cars you have seen, the buttons are indeed only for the radio. (The little Phone button does little but say it isn't available.)
Also, any rollover results. This is what gets most SUVs in trouble. I understand that there are electronics involved to brake to prevent rollovers.
Thanks in advance.
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On this, a warm (18C) and dry Sunday, a few minutes after starting up after lunch, while driving normally (I was not doing anything, just driving steady on a straight and flat road) the car suddenly sounded a "ping" and displayed "SUSPENSION FAULT", and the yellow suspension failure lamp came on. After 10 seconds or so, it pinged again and went to "Suspension - Normal Height Selected", and the error cleared. This entire sequence now repeated *three more times* in the next few minutes, before it settled and the car performed normally.
Of course this /would/ happen on Sunday, at my second property in Mono, 100km from the nearest Land Rover dealer! I have now had, what, four random failures? All are slightly different and all involve the suspension. Budds in Oakville and Land Rover corporate have been very supportive and have spent many weeks looking at my car. Every time I get it back with the message it is OK now and should not fail again. But every time, it has.
In spite of their much appreciated efforts, I feel I can no longer trust the engineers to get my truck reliable. I love the LR3 to bits, but can not trust my particular car. Groan!
I want a new car. Canada does not have Lemon policies but I presume LR will be reasonable.
Some sort of "it's cold out here" message.
Michael
But 2 are symmetrically opposed on the hood directly in front of the windshield. Specifically, the are on the edge (not top) of the hood in front of the A-pillars. Anyone have any idea how they might have gotten there? I don't believe that their location is a coincidence. So, my thoughts are: (1) pre-existing, from factory install of hood (but you'd think I would have seen them by now); (2) some material (dust, small stones, water, washer fluid) routinely is directed thru the gap between the A-pillars and the edge of the hood; (3) someone opening the hood forcefully and it banging into/scraping the A-pillars.