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Land Rover LR3

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  • Thanks grommet and british rover. 11 mpg hwy?!! That would definately get someone's attention. It averages @18-20 mpg hwy now (I have no idea about city mpg's) and that seems better than what I would of expected from a nearly 6k pound, not exactly aerodynamic, SUV with a 300hp V8 (sidenote:needs a turbo or two). I agree with the Edmunds Qrtly. Review. It's a good solid SUV. I know some here complained that Edmunds was harsh about the ergonomics, and I believe Mr. Brauer may not have understood or remembered that the LR3 has an adaptive transmission and the strategy it had learned from previous drivers may not have expected him to do what he did. But mechanically they rated it great.
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    I certainly didn't buy my 2006 LR3 HSE for it's gas usage efficiency. It's not my daily driver as I will probably put about 7,500 miles a year on it. I will use it for travel and when I need to haul something large or carry a bunch of people.

    I have two timeshares on the California coast that I spend a month each in and I need to carry a bunch of stuff when traveling there. My Mercedes ML500 (that I traded) was packed to the gills and I had no room for any additional people besides the front passenger seat. Anyone else had to be in a different car. In the LR3 with all of the storage in the rear (folding third row seats) I may not even need to put much in the second row seat area if any. In the ML, the third seats folded up against the sides taking up a good bit of room.

    Since the LR3 is so new, I'm getting about 12 mpg in the city and have gotten as much as 18.5 on the road. Hopefully, it will get better as the engine breaks in.

    Mark :D
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    So what do you think of this New Freelander possibly LR2 concept?

    Up untill a few months ago even our regional reps did not know what the new freelander would look like. It might look like a larger more refined version of the current freelander, might look like a small range Rover Sport(think X3 to X5 kind of styling) or it might look like a smaller LR3.

    I guess this rendering shows that the next freelander will look much more like the LR3. Next freelander/LR2.

    So what do you think? With an optional air suspension and a 200 something hp v6 how would it do?
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    British_Rover, if the new LR2 looks like the picture in your link, Land Rover will have a BIG hit on their hands!

    Looking forward to seeing it in person.

    Mark :D
  • I think I'm going to have to give it a thumbs down. One of the biggest selling points for my wife was the LR3's uniqueness. Nothing else really looked like it. When that new LR2 comes out it will look like an LR3 "mini-me".
  • lr3maybelr3maybe Posts: 134
    The LR3 Quick Reference Guide says that Access Mode is about 2 inches lower than On-Road Mode and that Off-Road Mode is about 2 inches higher than On-Road Mode.

    It also mentions Extended Mode: If the vehicle is grounded and traction control is induced, the system will automatically pump more air into the springs to raise the vehicle clear of the obstacle. This mode cannot be activated manually.

    Has anyone ever used this mode? How much higher than Off-Road Mode does it go? How does it know if the vehicle is grounded? It might explain this in the owners manual which I don't have - haven't got my truck yet.

    Thanks
  • jomartijomarti Posts: 2
    Saturday I brought home a brand-new LR3 HSE. On the way home I noticed that when I brake and come to a complete stop it sometimes feels like the brakes are releasing an then grab again. Almost like they are slipping. It doesn't happen everytime though. I took it to the dealership and the first guy drove it and said he coudl feel it and he had never felt it before. I left the truck there. Service called and said it is normal, but they did a minor tweak that should prevent it. The brakes are still doing it. Anyone else experienced this problem?
  • jomartijomarti Posts: 2
    Grommet,

    I am impressed with your knowledge of these vehicles. I am hoping you can help me. When i come to a complete stop, on occasion after the truck comes to a stop it feels like the brakes release and then grab back again. You can feel it in the pedals. The dealer is telling me this normal, but when I did my test drive in another vehicle I don't recall this at all. My truck only has 50 miles on it. Have you heard of this issue?
  • British_Rover. I was hoping you can help me out. I have an 05 HSE Buckingham Metallic Blue and cannot find touch-up paint anywhere. I ordered it from my dealer and they have no idea when it will arrive. Third party companies don't have it yet either. Can you tell me the paint code so I can try to get some mixed up?
  • lrdriverlrdriver Posts: 6
    Has anyone experienced a creaking noise coming from the seat bases of evey seat? The seats (especially the driver's seat) creaks everytime you start, stop, turn, accelerate or hit a bump. Also, has anyone experienced uneven tire wear on the rear tires? I do not yet have 13,000 miles and I am on my second pair of rear tires. When I follow the car from behind it appears the camber of the rear tires is off despite the Service Center saying it is fine. Has anyone else experienced this? I have owned several Land Rovers and I have never experienced the problems I am having from my LR3. :lemon: ??
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    Since that paint is retired I will have to track down the paint code in my files I don't remember what it is off the top of my head.

    I will let you know by tomorrow morning.
  • I thought the Buckingham is the current color and was started late 2005 after they retired the Adrianic Blue. The LR website shows Buckingham as a current color for both the LR3, RRS and the RR. If it isn't current what are they offering now?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    I read Buckingham but for some reason my brain said adriatic I dont know what was wrong with me last night.

    Anyway...

    The paint code for Buckingham is 796.
  • Thanks.
    Now to try to find it.
    I cannot believe that LR doesn't have it in stock anywhere yet. It has been a production color for almost a year now.

    It probably is on a boat with my door panel that has be back ordered for 5 months :)
  • koeslerkoesler Posts: 57
    Why are some people getting door panels ?? I hope it's not because they turn grey...I put "Eagle One" Tire Wet (or someting close to that) dressing on mine when they turned chalky and that was six months ago and they are still as black as can be.

    Otherwise, NO / ZERO / ZILCH problems with the 05 LR3 HSE in 11,250 miles...I love it.
  • No, I am getting a door panel because the idiot service guy put a 6 inch gouge in mine during a service visit with a screw driver.
  • mybenjemybenje Posts: 18
    I am looking to purchase LR3 V8. I have shopping and it looks like I can get a great deal on 05 than 06. Just curious if they are any issues with 05 LR3 from owners experiences. It is a first year car after all (Version 1.0) I know it was a recall for the gas tank on the 05's.
    Is the 06 a better SUV? or the dealers are trying to clear their inventories.

    Thanks
    Mybenje, in Souther California
  • macc24macc24 Posts: 20
    Mybenje,

    Your concerns can be researched at the NHTSA website. In looking there is one recall for 2005 and 2 recalls for 2006 LR3's. There are 3 TSB's for 2005 and 1 TSB for 2006. The recalls between years are not similar and there is one TSB, which addresses the same issue on both model year vehicles (if you were to have this problem then you can refer the dealer that specific TSB for guidance on how to fix your problem).

    The NHTSA website is a great resource for research and during the life of your vehicle. If anyone does have a problem w/their LR3 not only should you notify the dealer but let the NHTSA know about it as well - this may speed things up on a TSB or a future recall. Whatever you do just don't sit around and whine about it like a 3 year old, help the entire community drive safer LR3's by notifying the correct people/organizations.

    I hope this helps address some of your concerns.

    macc24

    On a side note... when Rover men wave at you as you drive your Rover, women, it is ok to wave back. Gents, thanks for keeping the community strong, see you on the trails.
  • Mark,

    I have a LR6 SE V6 with 6000 miles on it and it also has the suspension fault light coming on during nornmal driving. More disturbing is the SRS warning light that started poping on a few days ago. The same thing occurs with my LR3 - I shut it off, let it sit for a few minutes and the faults magically go away when I turn it back on.

    Other that these 2 issues, its a great car and I'm really happy wih it.

    I'll post again when I have the dealer take a look at it. Hopefully its something simple like a kludgy sensor.
  • My wife and I purchased a pre-owned '05 SE with 13000 miles and a new Honda Pilot over the weekend, and I was very disappointed to find that the Pilot's sound system runs circles around my LR3's 240 watt H/K system. I have more than all the bass I need in both vehicles, but the crisp, tight highs I'd expect with the H/K are nowhere to be found. Is it the receiver or the speakers, and has anyone replaced the factory speakers with better after market ones to resolve this issue? Of course, I love everything else about my LR3....
  • Hi! I purchased last month an 2006 LR3 HSE with luxury/heavy duty packages. I just turned in my 2004 Discovery SE. The 2004 and 2006 models are like night and day. The 2006 LR3 drives beautifully. It is smooth as silk and is wider, longer, etc. than the 2004. It took a while to get used to the new body type, however, I would never go back.

    Now, regarding the 2005 model, I rented one for a week on the West Coast last August. After driving that, getting back into my 2004 was strange. I felt all boxed in. I'm 6'1" and roughly 230 lbs. I am probably at the edge of comfort for Discovery II, however, I'm swimming in the 2006 LR3.

    By the way, I took excellent care of my 2004. Body and interior were immaculate, however, the 2006 LR3 HSE is like a fine gem, worth polishing, admiring, and polishing some more. Black interior/exterior is a must for this vehicle. It may be a Land Rover, though it turns heads like a Range Rover!

    So...do I use the center consol refrigerator? Yes! Do I love the adaptive headlights? Yes! Do I vacuum, throw out my trash, etc. one month later? Absolutely! By the way, my full-service state-of-the-art car wash in Rockville knows me on a first name basis. The clear-coat does very well. The 2004 was the same. Never dulled.

    Eric
  • roverineroverine Posts: 12
    I replaced my H/K speakers on my 2005 SE with Alpines and added an extra amp while still using the old H/K head unit for compatability's sake (with the voice recognition, phone PTI etc.) and my system sounds worlds better than the stock system. My stereo guy told me even top brands which bid for OEM deals often equip cars with cheap speakers to cut costs. I recommend a speaker/amp upgrade. And don't forget the (also cheap) subwoofer in the lower tailgate. I changed it out as well.
  • hellpiehellpie Posts: 9
    justinainde,

    On most speakers, the tweeters are usually the first things to go bad. This might explain why your H/K system lacks any high end; the tweeters are possibly blown. A simple test to see if this is the case: play some music through the H/K at moderate volume and then put your ear up against the tweeters to verify they are working. Hope this helps.
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    My stereo system seems fine. Maybe my ears are not 'fine tuned' enough to notice the difference between my OEM unit vs. and upgrade. It sounds great to me! Actually, it seems better than the Mercedes ML500 that I traded in.

    I have really cranked up the stereo in the Land Rover and I'm very pleased with it.

    One thing I've noticed "after" I bought the LR3, is that the bottom of the tailgate has a different finish on it compared to the flip-up part. It's only noticeable at night when headlights are shining on it. The bottom part has more of a dimpled finish.

    For those of you who have a Black LR3, if you don't mind taking a look at night and see if your finish is slightly different between the top and bottom pieces, I would appreciate it. Maybe mine was repainted but it only had 11 miles on it when I bought it.

    Also, I think 99.9% people would not notice the small difference, I'm very picky. :surprise:

    -mark156 :)
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    Land Rover paint is far from perfect. I assume you are probably talking about a slight orange peel effect. And you'll notice everything with black paint. It happens. Anyway, it probably wasn't repainted. A repaint job can exceed factory... unless the paint shop is garbage. Times have changed.
  • I appreciate the info and will look at having that done in April. The subwoofer, however, seems to be working all too well. With the bass and subwoofer settings at their minimums, I still experience far more bass at higher volumes than I'd like. It's definitely enough to shake the windows of others vehicles on the road and alert my neighbors that I've entered the development. Is this a sign of a cheap sub or will I just need to turn the volume down when I come upon a red light....
  • The tweeters are working. Thanks hellpie!
  • grommetgrommet Posts: 445
    justinainde, you might have a real problem. I'd suggest you visit a dealer and listen to another SE trim LR3 (the HSE is different) and compare the sound. There have been cases where the amplifier/entertainment system was misprogrammed.

    Personally, I find both the HSE and SE stereo system lacking... decent for most stock vehicles, though.
  • Hi John,
    Are you using the Multi-Connector port or the headphone jack to the AUX input? Also, what kind of cable are you using? This sounds like a great reason to trade the blackberry in for a Treo. Thanks, Katie
  • bmk007bmk007 Posts: 27
    The amber Suspension Fault light came on tday in my leased 2005 LR3. I have 4100 miles on the vehicle. It was at LR last week for it's 6 month maintenance. On the computer screen it flashes "SUSPENSION FAULT".

    Has anyone experienced this? I need to use the vehicle this weekend for a good 50 miles or so. Am I foolish to do so without getting it checked first? I would prefer to wait until Monday as I dont have access to another vehicle.

    Thanks in advance for your responses.
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