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Land Rover LR3

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  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    no issues - just some air bubbles that worked themselves out, and lowered the coolant level...

    Whew!

    /DA
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    I would say that the LR3 has been the best vehicles I have owned - previously I have owned Mitsubishi's, Ford's, and GM's, so this is my first real luxury vehicle.

    The LR3 is an astonishing vehicle. Do yourself a favour and see if the dealer you are working with has any Wheels events. They are bit tame compared the the Experience centres, but they give you an idea of what they can do.

    I just got back from the Montebello Land Rover Experience Center, and my wife and I had a hoot! It is absolutely incredible the punishment these trucks can take. Don't let the pretty looks fool you - this truck can work hard and do things other SUVs can only aspire to. I saw one LR3 recently with the bumper sticker: Jeep Recovery Vehicle. It was completel coated in mud, and was towing a Jeep Willys on a trailer - the Jeep had less mud on it.

    :)

    /DA
  • ehnjehnj Member Posts: 20
    avoncarguy, I have exactly the same concerns you have. I have consulted 2 other Land Rover forums, and read the same horror stories about the LR3 quality: the car just spends a lot of time in the shop... which I could live with to some degree, but the tire stories really turns me off, having to replace tires after 12K miles on your own dime.... . I thought the JD Power initial quality survey was pretty objective, since they only look at dealer records demonstrating the number of repairs per 100 cars in the first 3 months.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    There is a new procedure for the tire problems with the LR3. It is much more detailed then the old one on how to correct uneven tire wear and it gives a break down on when tires will be replaced on Land Rover's dime and on how much they will pro-rate it.

    I haven't really seen that much in the way of tire wear problems except on early build 2005 MY LR3s. I haven't seen any on 2006 MY cars that I can think of. They are very heavy vehicles so getting 30,000 miles out of a set of tires even with very agressive rotation scheduales is not going to be very likely.
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    I specifically asked my service guy about tire wear, and he said they had fixed the suspension geometry that was causing the issue, and that it shouldn't be affecting anyone anymore.

    Besides - I expect to change tires on all my vehicles every 20-25 thousand miles anyways... just for the safety and grip issues. It wasn't something that I wasn't expecting with this vehicle.

    /DA
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Avon... I have had my 2006 LR3 HSE for 9 months and 7,700 miles. No issues so far.

    Previously, I had a 2002 Mercedes ML500 that was a good reliable vehicle. I like the build quality, ride and roominess of the LR3 much better.

    My tires seem to be wearing perfectly.

    With the third row flat folding seats, the cargo carrying capacity is amazing. Recently, I bought a piece of furniture that I was concerned about it fitting in the back of the LR3. I thought I was going to have to put the second row down to accomadate the large box. I knew that my width was fine but the depth is what I was concerned about. To my surprise and amazement, this huge box fit without me having to lower the second row. I did have to remove the rear cargo cover as it blocked the height of the box. This box would have never fit in the Mercedes.

    I'm a very happy Land Rover customer so far!!

    I do wish I could get the 14 mpg's stated on the sticker for city driving as I'm getting about 12 in the city.

    Mark156 :D
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • ssp1ssp1 Member Posts: 115
    Is there a specific reference to this procedure if we do run into problems? From your emails it looks like a 2006 shouldnt have the problem.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    The bulletin is called LR3 and Range Rover Sport Premature/Uneven Tire Wear Guidance. The bulletin number is SWA06-10.

    I have never seen the problem on a Range Sport so I guess they are just covering themselves in case it does show up. The suspension geometry on the RRS is a little different then the LR3 and the RRS is a little bit lighter as well.

    Under this bulletin they are assuming 30,000 miles is normaly tire wear. Tires that are worn unevenly and prematurly at 10,000 to 15,000 miles will be prorated at 50%.
  • ssp1ssp1 Member Posts: 115
    Thanks thats helpful. I recall there is a web page where you can purchase or subscribe to get these bulletins? Is that so and if so can someone pass it along? Thanks
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    Try www.landrovertechinfo.com
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    A version of the Range Rover diesel V8 avaliable in Europe will go in the F-150 in 2009. I am pretty sure that means Land Rovers will get that diesel engine as well.

    Diesel in F-150
  • highordershothighordershot Member Posts: 1
    Just looking back through the messages as I haven't been on for a while and read your post concerning Miramar Land Rover (are you guys reading this??) and thought I'd chip in.

    I believe I've had a very similar experience in that I too had to drive up to Mission Viejo LR from San Diego to purchase my '06 LR3 HSE. Bear in mind that I had purchased a new Disco back in '01 from Miramar (unfortunately my sales rep, who was pretty good, stayed with the Porsche side of the house when they divided...Hmmm) but their best offer for me as a prior customer was close to 2K off from a number of other SoCal LR dealers including Mission Viejo. Needless to say I made the drive and experienced the best treatment purchasing a vehicle yet. I saved money, they made thiers, and I will drive to have my LR serviced at the slightest excuse (the Lakers play up in that neighborhood, don't they?)

    By the way,
    -3700 miles
    -paint flaw on tailgate
    -buzzing front speakers (both sides) problem
    -chattering windscreen fascia (at highway speed)
    -ungodly crappy transmission performance (programing, I think) at low speeds

    Other than that, I love it...

    Cheers
  • jclay1965jclay1965 Member Posts: 7
    I have noticed some rattling in the back, near the 3rd row seats (which have always been stowed since I got the car, never used) or tailgate area. I am pretty sure it's the sound of the metal on the seat belt buckles banging up against the sides of the car when I am on bumps or rough pavement. Never had a problem with the speakers. In fact, it's hard to find a car with a better factory sound system than the Harmon Kardon Logic 7 in my LR3 HSE. I absolutely love this stereo! Now, let's talk about these totally crappy Goodyear Wrangler HP's again... I am sorry folks, now I have 6,000 miles on my LR3 and the HP's, and they are by far the worst tires I have ever seen OEM on a car. The noise, vibration, cupping, and shimmy at different speeds is ridiculous. What do you recommend for me putting some heat on the dealer to get these things replaced? I am about to go on my first long journey, I know better tires would make it so much better. No other problems with the car at all. In fact, I am really loving it now that gas is down closer to $2.00 per gallon again...not driving the Prius as much!
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    I have speaker rattling in both front speakers as well - it's not the speakers, but the speaker grilles. I have had it in twice to have them tightened up. Otherwise, the sound system sounds very comparable to the $10,000 competition system I have in my other car. (quality wise, not even close on sheer volume.)

    There's a tech notice about buzzing speakers on the www.landrovertechinfo.com web site.

    /DA
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    I would have them take each tire off and see if you haven't had a belt shift inside the tire - you should be able to inspect it visually, and see it.

    I get none of the problems you are describing on my 2006 LR3 HSE and it's tyres. It's one of the smoothest driving vehicles I've ever had - in fact my wife complains about how smooth it is, because when she's passing someone, she can get up to 90-100 mph without even feeling like she is going that fast.

    /DA
  • adaraadara Member Posts: 5
    Hi! For the rattles in the boot there are basically 2 sources. One is the shredding of the small rubber joints of the 3rd row seats and the other one is the friction between the tailgate door guides. For more details please check this http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic6645.html and this http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/displayimage.php?album=201&pos=23
  • macc24macc24 Member Posts: 20
    2006 HSE my fog lights will not come on (yes my low beams are on). The rear fogs work just fine. Anyone else had/having this issue? I suspect a faulty switch since I hardly use the fog lights, tried to use them tonight because of the dense fog - guess Murphy might be British.

    Cheers,

    MC
  • morocco2morocco2 Member Posts: 43
    Hi everybody!

    This is my first time posting on this forum :) I have been shopping around for an SUV since May 06. For the last 24 years I have owned only Ford products (2 x Escorts, 1 x Probe GT, 2 x Explorers XLT and 3 x Windstars SELs). Presently my wife has a little Ford Escape XLT and I drive around a 01 Focus SE which I bought used 2 years ago to commute to work. I never had any major problems with any of these cars except for my Probe GT. It had a re-occurfing left tail light assembly fogging problem. After getting it replaced twice on the warranty, Ford's good will ranout. I drilled 4 little holes at the bottom of the assembly with my DREMEL drill and it was the end of that....Coming back to the LR3 I have read all 402 pages of this forum over the past few weeks and overall I retain a positive impression of the LR3 despite the worrisome electrical problems that seem to plague this great SUV. I have also noticed something else. From pages 320 to 402, which coincides with the arrival of the 2006 model, the number of reported major problems appears to gradually decline. Many of the ones I have read refered to 2005 models. I hope this is a clear indication that LR is solving the earlier problems and reliability is on the rise.

    I recently test drove a 2006 LR3 V6 SE7 and simply loved it. I wanted to test drive the V6 to see if it was up to the task and generally it was excpet that I only 2 of the 4 kids in the LR and not much luggage. I will most likely settle for the V8 in the end. I am considering 2 other vehicles: The BMW X5 3.0i 2007 with third row seat and the 2007 Ford Exepedition EB or Limited. With 4 kids I need space and cargo room but two of them are teenagers and will eventulally leave the house ;) so I might not need a vehicle as large as the Expedition.

    I am waiting to test drive the X5 and Expedition before I make up my mind but the LR3 is still the front runner. The only area of concern remains the reliability issue :confuse: I hope the 2007 models will have solved many of the major issues. I can live with small problems, all vehicles have them. I would be interested your thoughts

    Finally does anyone know if changes have been made in terms of both standard and optional equipment for the 07 model?

    Cheers from Ottawa, Canada
    The Great White North
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
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  • jclay1965jclay1965 Member Posts: 7
    Thanks for the advice about the rattling noises in the back... I am going to check around the 3rd row seats, and tailgate. The rattling is not driving me crazy, as much AS THE TIRES ARE!

    I think I am just going to call the dealership and watch while they take off and inspect the tires...I know at least one or more of them has an issue, I have never had tires that sounded like this, on a car this expensive, or with only 6,000 miles. Or I might take it too Goodyear, get their advice, then take it to the dealer. I think the dealer is avoiding the issue, so they won't have to replace the tire/tires.
  • ssp1ssp1 Member Posts: 115
    You should temper that reading with a review of other forums for any vehicle. Forums are heavy with issues and you can spot recurring issues. check out other car/suv forums and see the same frequency of horror stories. I dont think the forums are a good place to gauge likelihood rather to learn of pattern problems. people rarely write in and say "everything is great!" 97% of owners are probably not participating or contributing in forums (thats my guess)
  • jobiejobie Member Posts: 47
    I just went through the tire replacement process - to make a long story short, my dealer acknowledged that my '05 was in production range that had problems with rear alignment which caused uneven wear (I had 18k miles, but the noise got bad at about 10K). LR's program is a 1 for 1 deal, they pay for every one the owner does...but the kicker is that the tires have to be OE (i.e. the terrible Goodyear Wrangler HP's). So my dealer got $299 per tire (same tire is about $255 at Tirerack) - with balancing, taxes total was $750) for 2 tires! Let's just say LR has an unhappy customer right know - a letter to them is due.
    Another interesting note about the various rattling...I never had a problem until the past couple weeks, now I have a rattle coming from both the middle seat area and front passenger door (can't pinpoint the exact place of either rattle, but I'm trying). It takes the slightest bump in the road for both these areas to rattle - very annoying.
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    Well, I found my rattle, and it was in the strengest place: the dome light/headliner.

    If I hold the area right in front of the dome light up, then my rattles stop right away.

    I just got mine back from the dealer, where they did some work, and now it's back to normal.

    As for the doors, I had a loose cable behind the speakers. It was causing a rattle, as well as because it was touching the speaker, the speaker would buzz when low notes came through on the radio/cd.

    That's all fixed now too, so my truck is back to 100% quiet.

    /DA
  • killerphishkillerphish Member Posts: 7
    Morocco,

    If you haven't bought it already, go with your gut and get the LR3. The Expedition really isn't in the same class, and the X5 is so much more commonplace.

    I've had my '06 V8 SE for a few months now, and haven't had any reliability issues. No tire noise, no rattling, etc. And I've driven it over 7,000 miles already.

    JR
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Had a couple of clients complete their 15,000 miles or 22,500 mile service recently and no issues with either one.
  • ehnjehnj Member Posts: 20
    I am negotating with a dealer to lease a LR3 V8 loaner/demo with 6000 miles. It is a 30 mo lease w/ 15k miles per year. I am concerned that the tire wear on the loaner is excessive, but the dealer doesn't want to put new tires on. I think I read somewhere on this forum that I should expect to change tires at about 20K miles. Given that the car already has 6k miles, and I am going to add another 37.5k, I am taking the risk of either having to replace the tires twice within my 30 mo lease period, or turn the vehicle in with little to no tread, in which case I assume I am getting dinged for it.

    Is it a good assumption that tires will need to be replaced at 20k miles? other thoughts?
  • jclay1965jclay1965 Member Posts: 7
    I took my '06 LR3 V8 HSE to Goodyear today, so THEY could check the tires. They did see evidence of 'scalloping', which is most likely causing my aggravating tire noise. They said basically the LR3 just eats these tires up, because of the weight and load demands, they are just not the best suited tire for this vehicle. So, I guess I will have to live with the noise, and get some Scorpion Zeros, or Synchrones, when they are spent.
  • morocco2morocco2 Member Posts: 43
    Killerphish

    :shades: Thank you for the advice, I am about 99% decided in favour of the LR3.
  • lr3maybelr3maybe Member Posts: 134
    My 06 SE V8 was new in April, and now has 5500 miles on it. There is no visible wear on any tire. If your loaner has what you consider excessive wear it was either driven very hard, or with low tire pressure, or it has an alignment issue.
  • snapcracklepopsnapcracklepop Member Posts: 111
    That's an awesome story! We have a dealer with the rock course literally down the street and another 2 within a 30 minute drive.

    Have you heard about the new custom mapping feature in the Land Rover navi system? It's all up on the Land Rover website but you can plot your points of interest and generate a picture of it, for example I could enter certain points in and have it resemble the washington monument........pretty cool, let me see a Jeep do that!
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    Is that a 2007 option? I'm a little pissed about the ton of new options on the 2007 as compared to my 1 1/2-month old 2006 I just picked up...

    GPS security & recovery system
    Power electric lumbar, etc, etc, etc
    If I hear they put an ipod connector on it, it may just send me to the dealer to say WHASSUP?? Hopefully some of the things can be added later for those of us who have already taken the plunge.

    I shoulda waited!!!

    /DA
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    The electric lumbar is the only thing I knew for sure will be on 2007 MY LR3s.

    Everything else is just speculation and I haven't seen any bulletins on it.

    The lumbar support was on 2005 MY LR3s and was dropped on the 2006 MY cars for some reason.
  • rjc_roverrjc_rover Member Posts: 1
    Hi all,

    This is my first time owning a car with Navigation so this might be a stupid question.

    It seems that the audio navigation only come out of my left door speaker(seems logical). Allot of times when my wife is driving I would like to have it come through both front speakers but can't find a way to do it. Anyone know if this can be done?
  • snapcracklepopsnapcracklepop Member Posts: 111
    Oh my bad – sorry if I didn’t make it clear – this is a feature on the land rover website. I guess its to promote their nav system – you have to be on the site though to do it. So – you definitely didn’t miss out on a feature on your 06 Rover!
  • jmstachjmstach Member Posts: 5
    British Rover,
    Here is what Ford has on their web site about the new LR3
    "For 2007, leather trim, a power sunroof, and a 240-watt harman/kardon ® nine-speaker sound system are all standard equipment. All V8 models are now equipped with three-row, seven-passenger seating. Aluminum-alloy wheels fitted to the V6 SE are a new design this year. A power lumbar adjuster has been added to the driver’s seat while the front passenger-side power window responds to one touch. Power seat adjusters operate when the ignition switch is in the off position. For lane-change convenience, a new three-flash position has been incorporated in the turn-signal switch. To supplement the time display in the radio, a clock has been added to the driver’s information center in the instrument cluster. "
  • lr34melr34me Member Posts: 1
    After doing a fair bit of homework - am about to begin looking for a lightly used (05/06) LR3 HSE. I know the mileage stinks and that reliability is a gamble - but I need something that will tow my boat and haul the family - not too many choices - this seems the best compromise. I will miss the X5 - but it has become too small. Some questions....

    Is it possible for a reasonably agile adult to access the third row via folding down the middle seat in the second row? We have twins - so two car seats - which I would prefer to mount in the outer positions using the latches.

    It appears that the LR3 can be imported to Canada from the US. I have gone this ay on other vehicles - better choice, better price. Has anyone done this with an LR3 - and if so - are any mods required (does not appear that to me that any are required). Also - will LR honor the warranty?
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  • morocco2morocco2 Member Posts: 43
    Hi folks,

    I just leased a 2007 LR3 HSE Tonga/Alpaca. The dealership is Land Rover Ottawa. Here are some details:
    a. Retail price $72,794.00 (canadian)
    b. $2500.00 rebate brings cost to $70,294.00
    c. Cold climate package is standard in Canada
    d. APR is 4.9%
    e. 39 MONTH LEASE WITH 75,000KM MONTHLY PAYMENT with tax $1131.20
    f. Residual value $40,373.20
    This includes rubber floor mats all three rows and cross bars for cargo rack. I am looking at adding the front and rear mud flaps and running boards. I have two young children and two teenagers figured they would be a good accessory to add.

    Delivery 2 to 3 weeks the vehicle appears to be in Halifax.

    Looking forward to it and will keep you posted. :shades:
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    Pretty good. I just picked up a 2006 HSE with Silver on black. I'd recommend the mud flaps - they keep your paint nice and stone-chip-free.

    Heavy Duty model, with locking rear dif, and full-sized spare.
    Third row seats
    mud flaps
    seat covers
    wood trim (looks nice!)
    Dual DVD Screens in roof liner
    Towing pkg with electrics
    3M clear nose protectant covering

    If you do a lot of highway driving, I'd recommend the 3M protective coating as well. I've taken quite a few stones off the nose, and this stuff really works to keep your pait intact.

    Cheers!

    /DA
  • morocco2morocco2 Member Posts: 43
    Great advice!

    A fair amount of my driving is highway. I am waiting for dealer to give me price on front and rear mud flaps and running boards. I have two small children and they are having a hard time getting in my wife's Escape.

    The 3M clear nose protectant was that dealer installed or you got it done by a specialized shop??

    Cheers!

    RM
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I have in fact installed a camera to the DVD screen :)

    -mike
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    The 3M coating was installed by the dealer, but you can get it installed just about anywhere you get a tint done - if you check eBay, they even have it as well if you're a DIYer..

    It's a little pricey, as it hasn't been around long enough to have a decent amount of competition to drive the prices down, but in my case, I figured if I was spending this much on a leasing a truck, then I may as well do everything I can to protect it to keep the end-of-lease police off my back.
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    Can't speak to the importing mods that need to be done, but I can say for certain, that unless you are very small, then there is no way you are going to want to crawl in between two child seats to reach the third row.

    Sorry, it's not a mini-van and I just don't see how it's possible. I'm fairly agile, and there's no way I could do it... (I'm 5'10", so not the largest of guys...)

    If that's what you're looking for, I would suggest a new Tahoe or (gulp) Hummer H2 (although they only have 6-passenger seating) and put the child seats together.

    The Tahoe has slightly higher tow rating (even better with the 4WD) and the H2 slightly lower towing.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Welcome back Mike (and congrats!).

    How about posting some pics on your CarSpace page when you get a chance?
  • morocco2morocco2 Member Posts: 43
    dandrews1

    Thank you for the info. I will look into that. I was informed yesterday that my 2007 LR3 HSE has arrived. :) They are waiting for the running boards. I am picking it up 30 Nov in the morning. Can hardly wait. Based on your recommendations I asked the dealer to add the front and rear mud-flaps and the running boards.

    Morocco2 :shades:
  • dandrews1dandrews1 Member Posts: 184
    No problems...

    I don't have the running boards myself, as I do want to offroad this baby (yes, I know - nobody offroads a lease, but what the heck - I'll do some mild stuff) so I thought the running boards may be an issue with that - as for the mud flaps, they come off with two quick-to-remove bolts, so I keep an old ratchet in the rear with the right socket on it to take em off whenever I need.

    Congrats on the new truck! For my wife and I, it was like bringing home a new baby!

    /DA
  • tampalr3tampalr3 Member Posts: 1
    I have noticed a problem with my 2006 LR3. When cruising down the highway at 70 mph I notice that when i GENTLY accelerate to 75 the car has a noticeable (not violent) vibration from either the engine, transmission, or something, that lasts for a few seconds then goes away. It sort of feels like I am driving over ruts in the road. But if I push the accelerator down with authority as if to overtake someone there is no vibration. It only happens at speeds of around 60-70 mph. Otherwise the truck is a pure joy to own and drive.

    Any clues as to what this may be? :confuse:

    Thanks.
  • ssp1ssp1 Member Posts: 115
    I would guess Tires? Land rover will do a free alignment and I hear there is a Tech service bulletin requiring some % of tire replacement if there is a tire issue. I got the free/under warranty alignment based on my complaint and concern about tire wear.
  • jgpersijgpersi Member Posts: 4
    hi
    when did you pick up your car new
    and how many miles on it
    i have lr3-v6 pick up in nov hope this is not a on going problem had car 1 day and open bonnet mesg came up had to replace switch
    joe
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