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  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Member Posts: 1,982
    Chico's my alma mater too! This is a bit frightening!

    We (four of us) rented a house in a walnut orchard about a quarter-mile west of 32 on W. Sac! Thursday nights were spent at the Bear in our "command post" which is that first booth in the center row next to the first floor bar. Most of my after hours time, though, was spent at Canal Street playing pool, and at the Deja Vu Mining Company listening to the 8th Avenue String Band.

    I don't know if Carlsen is still selling Audi on the peninsula, but after my VW experience there, I wouldn't go back. I know a couple Porsche pilots who had unkind things to say about them as well.

    I test drove an S4 Avant last Sunday at the new Livermore dealership. They have three RS6s on the lot as well, which caused small amounts of drool to pool on my shirt front! I have zero idea of their customer service abilities, but the sales guy was knowledgeable and avoided most forms of puffery and competition-bashing.

    Too tight in the A4, eh? I admit to liking a close cockpit, so I find the current size near perfect, perhaps even a tad generous, but that's in comparison to my SportCross, which is exactly right for me, and the '95-'99 Eclipses, which I always thought had the best driver's cockpit I'd ever seen. I'm 6'0" and 180 with a fair amount of leg.
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Wale Bate

    Chico Days, man my first year there was when the had the Playboy people up and there was that big riot near Riley's. I lived in the "zoo" then to Nord Gardens when they first built them.

    Anyway, so you don't find the center console pushing in on your right leg at all? Have you sat in the S4? That is where I really felt it, I wonder if the S4 interior console is different than the A4 center console. Any thoughts there?
  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Member Posts: 1,982
    The S4 Avant was what I drove. Nah, I was comfortable, so maybe I sit and set the seat a bit differently. But like I said, I like 'em close and sort of cocooning. The housing does have a slight curve to it, so if you like to sit a little close with knees bent outward at all I can see where you might rub.

    It's so close to the size and layout of my current car (which is near perfect for me) that I felt comfortable right away.

    I can't even begin to describe the feeling of pushing pedals real hard! :-)
  • mikeike12000mikeike12000 Member Posts: 9
    Wow what a small world, when you all buy the new Audis there is a highly likely chance you may race by one another! Poor me I'm stuck to the confining German back roads and open Autobahns! Being in Germany is great but me and the wife would trade a pint of Riesling and a kilogram of brat wurst for a good old American sonic burger and a 44 oz guzzler! Speaking of roads, how long would you all advise before really getting into the new audis? I've heard they come ready to be autobahn run but I would be skittish hitting 130 to quick. Any advice?

    On a side note you'll love this, my last car was a 98 VW golf 2.0. Lack luster is a understatement, but I did the up grades anyway. Speed chip exhaust aftermarket intake etc... So we just got to Germany last summer and to show off the power of the golf on the autobahn we go for a cruise. Now on the autobahn it's dog eat dog and looks are not important just being able to get out of your own way. Needless to say when the golf eked over 130kph(80mph) I watched several station wagons, ford escort, ford mondeo passat, mercedes citroen you name it fly by me.

    Morale of the story; It's not if, but when you get passed strive to be the head turner. I think I'll get some glances with an A 4 especially when the porsche rally rolls up in my back window on the Manheim Saarbrucken Autobahn!
    Cheers:)
  • cicerocicero Member Posts: 51
    I am starting to think I better trade in my car and my suits---you buy Zegna----and actually pay the 1500---I am way out of my league with you boys. I bought a Zegna sport coat at Wilkes in Mendocino and they closed the store and brought out champagne (4 women). I bought an Armani - met him a year ago in Italy and told him I am still trying to pay it off. I am off this site---going back to Passats. Cicero
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Cicero

    Haaaaaaaa. Got it on sale for $950 and was my first suit purchase that high. But it is nice and I don't know if I could back to the $600 anymore after that one.
  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Member Posts: 1,982
    Trumps me entirely!

    I have a family connection at Patrick James, so everything I own is Hart, Schaffner & Marx (I'm alarmingly conservative when it comes to suiting!), with generous family discount. ;-)

    Hey Mike: have any A3 Sportbacks hit the streets in your nape of the timber? I'm dyin' to hear from someone who's actually seen the 5-door in the metal.
  • mikeike12000mikeike12000 Member Posts: 9
    I'm not to sure about the A 3 but I did the pivelage of driving an A2 for a week. They are kind of neat, small but neat. I've seen the A3's running around they look like loads of fun. They remind me of the VW golf on steroids, they have the typical Audi styling smmoth exterior lines etc... I'm going to a German Audi dealership this weekend so maybe I'll test one? Sorry not much help, has the A 2 been introduced in the states?
  • cicerocicero Member Posts: 51
    I picked mine up at Rector Audi and the experience was very good. They sell a lot of cars there and too a wealthy clientle. Unfortunately, the guy I bought from left claiming to have hit on the lottery and he moved back to Genoa or somewhere in Northern Italy. The service is prompt with attention to customer satisfaction. I had a problem with my Zenons going down after a bump in the road and they did not fuss or muss about it and replaced the part. Years ago, I bought my first Jetta GL (I went to 6 cyls later) and the digaphant (sp) fuel injection reached 96 degrees and shut down the engine----this meant I got 5 miles out the City in the fast lane and the engine shut down. The dealer, in its "efforts" to duplicate the problem could not find it because they were not in the car long enough or fast enough to reach the temperature. So they kept giving me the car back. Finally, I went to Lemon law and at the same time a bulletin came back on the problem and the car was fine after that. Having those repeated experiences with VW made me realize that I had to find a dealership that treated me nice. Coincidentally, the one that sold me the car went out of business; I feel no remorse. Now I have found a great dealership. Nicer wheels too. I enjoy the 4 but after seeing the new 6; European version, I am impressed. I think you seriously should consider the 6.
  • cicerocicero Member Posts: 51
    No A2s around here; I saw a bunch of them in Italy though and I thought they were well matched for the Euro-environment---small but not as small as Ka and about the same size as the small Alfa station wagons. For some reason, I thought they would not do well here; the A 3s a are a different story.
  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Member Posts: 1,982
    No. I agree, the A2 would be a risky proposition in this country. Heck, even the A3 three-door would be a long shot, I think. But the Sportback has a chance, I believe.

    I'm not ready to buy again until '06, and by that time, I'm thinking the A4 will have grown to meet the ever-bloating competition, which potentially makes it less appealing to me (I like compact wagons), so I'm watching the Sportback with great interest. If an S3 Sportback with DSG shows up here, I'm probably in.

    The other prospect coming down the pike that could hook me is the Benz B. If they send it here (based on the pics I've seen) with a halfway muscled package, I'm very interested.

    If I were pulling the trigger today, however, the S4 Avant would get my check and no two ways.
  • bud22bud22 Member Posts: 3
    im not agree with your comment for the simply reason that the american vehicules are more commercial than any other european made im a fanatic of all germanies vehicules and disagree of your tipical american comments of the cadillac for example thats a luxury car and not a machine proved so!
  • bud22bud22 Member Posts: 3
    i was reading about the cadillacs comments and i think that the european cars have more perfomance than any or of the most of the american built for example you cant compare a chevy malibu with an audi a4.. the audi has a perfomance that chevrolet ever can imagine or the focus with the a3.. come on thats an absurd! always i preffer an european than an american built!
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Mark

    I was reviewing some old posts on the 2005.5 A4 and read your number 36 post. You mentioned the feeling of loss of power when you were loaned a 3.0 A4.

    Do you think with the new 3.2 255hp FSI engine that will be a huge difference in feeling compared to the current 3.0 A4 engine?

    Also, since my 2 local Audi dealerships are worse than a used car lot, I can't ever get any info out of them on future models or even accurate info on current models.

    Soooo, next time you are out at your Audi dealership, will you inquire for us when a preliminary order sheet will be available. Also, try to confirm all the rumored changes. The Big unknown question is if the 2005.5 A4 will be getting the chassis change (which I assume widens and lenthgens the body ) or exactly what type of changes are happening on the 2005.5 vs the 2006 model.

    Last question would be your point on a S line A4. I wonder if that is a possible change / option for the 2006 A4. It would be the same engine right, but have a stiffer sport suspension, larger rims, and some branding?

    Thanks
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    FWIW, I do thinkg the new 3.2 engine in the 05.5 A4 will be a major upgrade. The sensation "ought to be" almost, not quite, but almost the same as the previous 2.7T version of the S4 would be my best guess. More HP in the 3.2, slightly lower torque -- BUT the old 2.7T had the torque at full boil under 2,000RPM's -- not so the new 3.2. Almost a 2002 S4 would be my characterization.

    I cannot get any clarification on the chassis config for the 05.5. I would not be shocked if the changes were almost entirely cosmetic (plus and new interior -- also cosmetic). On the other hand, I would NOT be shocked to find the new 05.5 A4 with some chassis improvements as well.

    A longer wheelbase and a stiffer and wider chassis would be "nice" to understate the matter.

    If my wish comes true, I may be out of the market for an A6 sized car after all -- I get my first look-see at the A6 on August 9th or 10th at the Cincinnati roll out of this model.
  • davkingdavking Member Posts: 51
    Are you suggesting, in your last two sentences, that a new A-4 just might displace the 2005 A-6 in your set of alternative choices?
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    Yes.

    My list -- at this moment in time -- is the Acura RL, the Audi A6 (and now the possibility of an A4) and for the heck of it a test drive of a Chrysler 300C AWD version and/or SRT-8 version. At this point, the earliest I will ORDER a car is October, the latest would be March.

    I just returned from a vacation in Italy (yesterday) and once again I have come to a greater appreciation of the possibility that I should consider a smaller car NOT to be a lesser car.

    Heck, for a while there I was pretty smitten with the S4.

    I keep thinking $3.00 gal gasoline, I keep thinking horsepower and torque -- then I think compromise. I have been so loyal so long to Audi, it is hard to imagine the Acura will win my dollar vote -- but there's a first for everything.

    At least I will evaluate my choices.

    The A6 -- had with a sport suspension -- looks like a great choice, still.

    Color me biased and undecided. I would NOT think of the new A4, however, as a "settling for less" option in any case.

    Configured as I want it, the A6 is MSRP'd @ $51,550. A similarly equipped A4 with the 3.2 would probably come in $8 to $10K less -- and that too catches my attention. I have 1 wife, 2 shelties, 1 90 year old mother (who doesn't live with me) and two very small in-laws who live 250 miles away. The back seat of my allroad has fundamentally been unoccupied for 33,000 miles save for the odd trip from Cinti to Pittsburgh when the shelties sleep there for about 4 hours.

    The A4, thusly equipped, would probably be a bit more sporty -- and that too is a consideration.

    Didn't used to have as many choices -- but, who am I to. . .
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Mark

    Thanks for the opinion. Hope you had a nice time in Italy.

    I also have talked myself into the new 2005.5 A4 and out of the 2005 A6. Primary reason is I drive for Sales and have a Suburban for the family. I just don't need the larger sedan.

    I was in my friends 2003 3.0 A4 over the weekend and it was perfect except a little slow for my taste. From what I understand, with the new lighter weight of the car and the new 3.2FSI engine, the 0-60 time should be around 6.5 sec. And yes, in lots of ways Mark, this 2005.5 is extremely similar to the 2002 S4. But for the .5 of a sec difference, I would rather have the newer vehicle.

    So, let us know how your test drive goes on the A6, wonder if there will be a 4.2 and a 3.2 to drive.

    Thanks
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    I received a call from my Audi dealer inviting me to a "soire" at his brand spanking new dealership on August 9th for a test drive and light refreshments. He read the printed invite to me and it only mentioned the new A6, not the configuration that would be available. I am hopeful for both, but am keenly interested in driving the 3.2 -- having had three Audi 4.2 V8's, I love their sound and fury, but man do they drink.

    On those afforementioned trips to PA from Cincinnati, a speed range of 65 to 85 is "going with the flow" -- even the old A6 2.8's could easily muster that. So the 3.2 in either an A4 or an A6 ought to be just dandy. My wife is now talking "this is the end of her TT ownership" (she's had three), and she too is thinking either a new A3 or A4 2.0 FSI. Now two A4's in the garage might turn some folks off, but I'll wager we'll be just fine with that if that is the way it goes.

    I'll keep the town-hall informed (over on the other discussion thread -- '05 A6, i.e.)
  • cicerocicero Member Posts: 51
    Ciao Marco (Mark: I hope Italy went well. You did not mention whether you were in the North or South or what you drove there. I want to hear about the 2.0 when she gets it; anyone who drives will understand the reason for his and hers. Cicero
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    Flew Cincinnati to Rome, Rome to Verona. Spent 2.5 days in Verona, then trained to Venice, spent 2.5 days there (and went to the Lido) then train back to Verona for final night in Italy. Flew to Rome then non-stop to Cincinnati (Delta smiled on us and upgraded us to first class).

    While in Italy, saw lots of cars, drove none. Lots of Touaregs (diesels!); lots of Audi A3's (both 2 & 4 doors); some really cool looking 4 door Alpha Romeo sedans (about the size of a VW Passat -- a styling tour de force, looks cool just parked.)

    Saw several allroads 2.5TDI and gasoline versions; in Verona saw a W12 Audi A8L (big wheels on this thing too). Taxis were Passats and very nice.

    Europe and Italy in particular make me think that "super nice" small (A3 - A4 sized cars) make so much sense -- especially with $44+ bbl oil.

    Oh yea, saw 3 or 4 A2's -- even they look classy, but that one, IS too small.

    Porsche's aplenty, too. Verona must be "loved" by German tourists who love opera, both were plentiful (Germans and Opera, that is).

    Said it before, read it before: Europeans get all the cool cars and Italians in particular look good in them. Even the ticket taker on the trains looks dressed by Prada or Gucci.

    As if the [cool] cars weren't enough, well, then there's the food -- I don't think you could find a bad meal there if you tried. We grabbed a quickie burger at the Rome airport -- even it was terrific!

    Back to cars, already in progress.
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    When are we going to see photos or get any real info. on the 2005.5 A4.?

    The 330I 2006 info is already out earlier than expected.
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    This is the first unofficial picture I have seen. For those of you who have seen the 2005 A6 trout mouth, does this look similar?

    http://www.edmunds.com/future/2006/audi/a4/100394301/photos.html?- tid=edmunds.f.review.leftsidenav..2.Audi*

    If you can't see this it is on Edmunds new cars.
  • cyberpmgcyberpmg Member Posts: 83
    I believe that's a close representation of the next A4. It's my understanding that the new design will be unveiled next month (in September) in Europe.

    From what I can gather, the front nose of the spy pic is accurate, but there may be some subtle changes in the side and rear.

    Guess we'll all have to wait and see what is presented in the next few weeks. =)
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Post anything once you see it.

    Thanks
  • kenw1kenw1 Member Posts: 30
    Has anyone seen any specs for the new A4, other than the new engines? If they are actually going to release it in Feb. 2005, there should be some specs out by now. The BMW 3-Series specs and (leaked) brochure is already out and they are not supposed to be sold in Europe until early summer 2005.
  • carman123carman123 Member Posts: 71
    The new 3 series seems to be significantly larger, especially in width gaining approximately 3 inches. Audi is going to have to make the A4 larger to compete (and so is Mercedes with the 2007 C class). The new Lexus IS is supposed to gain about 8 inches in wheelbase to become similar in size to the Infiniti G35. As these entry level luxury cars start to creep toward midsize cars, we the consumer benefit. It is easier (for me at least) to justify the premium price for this class of car when they are becoming large enough to accommodate my growing family. Let's just hope the manufacturers can keep the weight down so that the handling and fun to drive characteristics remain top notch.
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Hey guys, more pics of the trout mouth A4. What do you guys think, it looks nice but hard to get a feel for the size etc.

    http://www2.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=3305&ca- tegoryId=12
  • cicerocicero Member Posts: 51
    I am reminded of the ever expanding Mustang! The Detroit people turned the spry car into a battleship. No benefit in that...a few inches is fine, but bigger----ahem---is not always better.
  • cicerocicero Member Posts: 51
    Thanks for the spy shots! The photos are not encouraging. The side panels and rear deck evoke the design of the Cadillac Catera! The wheels remind of those on a camry---surely they must be joking!
  • 123abc123abc Member Posts: 2
    OFFICIAL!
    Audi A4 shows new face, new engines

    07/09/2004 07:37
    The new Audi A4, due to be shown at the Paris Motor Show later this month, is not just a pretty face - it's got four new engines, too!
     
    ... ...

    http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/News/0,,1369-1372_1585010,00.h- tml
  • kenw1kenw1 Member Posts: 30
    This link to kak.net gives a very detailed review with info and photos of the new A4. Only thing missing is price and release date.

    Enjoy:

    http://news.kak.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=news&file- =article&sid=1592&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Thanks guys for both the sites. It was great to come home after work and FINALLY see some actual pictures of the new Audi. I like post #83 site the best.

    Engine - 3.2 FSI 255 Hp 0-60 in 6.5 sec

    Style - all new body panels and a slight bit longer and wider. Trout mouth with exact same look as the new 2005 A6.

    Interior - not sure if they are incorporating the MMI like the A6, wish they would.

    Transmissions - 3.2 V6 FSI, with 6-speed manual or Tiptronic with Sport mode which debuted last year on the S4.

    Soooo, here is a question for the experts. What essentially is the difference between the new 2005.5 A4 and the 2005 A6? ( besides the size )

    Difference in Interior/ Exterior/ Suspension/ Dash Board & MMI/ Braking/ Chassis/

    Thanks
  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    OK – I think I read and / or searched everything now publicly available on the new A4 / S4 – and I do not see a specification for fuel tank capacity. This (range, in fact) is one of my objections to some Audi models. It looks like the current A4 (Quattro) has a 17.4 gallon tank.

    Anyone see what I have missed?

    Thanks,
    - Ray
    Hoping for 19 / 20 gallons – at least on the 3.2 and 4.2 Q versions . . .
    2022 X3 M40i
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    I think the size is the same as the previous model.

    The only mention I found about range was on GermanCarFans.

    They mentioned that the 3.0TDI would get 7.5L per 100 km and would have a range of about 840km.

    My simpleton math makes that 63 liters or 16.6 gallons.
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    So Mark, check out this site posted below. It seems there are a great many changes going on with the 2005.5 A4. To name a few:
        All new exterior design conforming to the 2005 A6 & A8.
        New generation steering wheels exactly like the 2005 A6.
        Optional interior items -
               Fine grained woods
               Alcantara leather
               Zenon adaptive headlights
               Comprehensive airbag protection system
               rain sensing wipers
               upgraded Bose system
        New engine options:
               3.2 FSI 255 hp 0-6- in 6.4 sec
               manual 6-speed or 6-speed Tiptronic
        New Chassis
               spring & shock absorbers
               4-link front suspension
               self tracking trapezoidal rear susp.
               Brakes
        A bunch of now Standard features
               dual air conditioning
               active head restraints
               air bags
               electric front windows

        A "S" Line equipment packages ( YAAAAAAAAA! )

    So the only area which i am unclear is in the Optional Infotainment system. They say it is the Dvd Radio & navigation system plus is based on the MMI standard familiar with from the A6 & A8 system. Does that mean a better version of last years model or the same version option as the one offered on the 2005 A?????

    Otherwise, this seems in almost every way to be the same car as the new 2005 A6 but a little smaller etc.

    What do you think? Any chances yo0u would be able to check with your contacts with Audi?

    Thanks

    http://www.audiworld.com/news/04/090704/index.html
  • draguladragula Member Posts: 10
    I wish they would add Bluetooth and hope they bring the advanced navigation system to the US instead of the current system.
  • kenw1kenw1 Member Posts: 30
    Does anyone have news of when the 2005.5 A4 will be on sale in the U.S. and Canada? Also, any idea on prices? I can hardly wait to get one.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    Done! As you wish.
  • draguladragula Member Posts: 10
    Thanks! LOL.

    I just read the review on AudiWorld and perhaps the upgraded navigation system will be available on the A4.

    On another note, I was driving behind an all black 04 A4 with the optional sport package and DAMN that car looks hot!

    I really want to stick with Audi (currently have 225 TT) when my lease is up, but there is some great competition out there.
  • cicerocicero Member Posts: 51
    Mark: What are you looking at apart from the Audis? Cicero
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    That is exactly all i would need to have need buy the 2005.5 A4 over the new 330i.

    If you find any concrete news about the new dash, new MMI system and bluetooth, let us know.

    Thanks
  • draguladragula Member Posts: 10
    Did you take a look at the write up on www.audiworld.com ? Sounds like the new navi is going to come to the U.S however I don't think Bluetooth will be an option.

    http://www.audiworld.com/news/04/b7a4/content.shtml
  • cyberpmgcyberpmg Member Posts: 83
    I was talking to a friend of mine who works at a local Audi dealer and has some good inside contacts. The new redesigned A4 (model B7, platform 8E) will get the MMI with DVD based navigation (as an option). It will also get Bluetooth to allow you to use the latest phones that are on the market.

    I also like that they (Audi AG) are using the suspension components from the S4 to improve the A4. Imagine what they'll do for the new S4! =)

    Looking forward to the unveiling later this month. Hopefully, I'll be able to see it at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit in January. I'll have to take it for a spin too when they start showing up in March.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    The new A4 .5 with a 3.2 engine WILL offer Ultra Sport, 6speed manual and MMI, bluetooth, DVD navigation, and most if not all the electronic stuff from the new A6 and the updated A8 short.

    I cannot get clarity if keyless and voice response and some other stuff will be offered, but this is the kind of thing that I would say is "almost" a cinch to be included in the new model.

    My desire for a stick, may trump my desire for the larger A6 (which, I cannot imagine getting in V8 guise due to my prediction of $3.00/gallon fuel and for what a 1 second drag race improvement that even in my small city will go, mostly untapped?)

    The new A4 -- if I can "lux and sport" it up enough, may save me south of $10,000 -- the last time I drove the V6 2.7T S4 (2002) it had 250 HP and it was a rocket.

    Yes, I know the HP on the 3.2 is bigger, but the torque is slightly less (14 pound feet) -- so I am not expecting the new A4 w the 3.2 and a 6speed to be up to the last gen S4, but I'll bet it will be no slouch and if Ultra Sport IS continued (my dealer is emphatic that it will be) this could be a great two person and two shelties car (which just happens to describe my household).

    The problem is, the few times I take clients out -- the back seat may be an issue.

    The magazines I've read say that Audi, being aware of this, has addressed the cramped back seat issue. How, by shortening the trunk? Or lengthening the wheelbase?

    Anyone? Anyone?
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Mark, I am very excited about this launch. From everything I have read the 2005.5 A4 will have all the options the 2005 A6 offers. So you load your A4 with S line sport options, luxury DVD - blutooth Alcanttra leather options etc. and have the exact same car as the A6 with all the same options but in a smaller and lighter less expensive body.

    I actually started to wonder though with a fully loaded 2005.5 A4, how that will compare to the 2005 S4. Hmmmmm!
  • draguladragula Member Posts: 10
    With all of those options I'll most likely stay in the Audi family. However not sure how I feel about the new front end, kinda reminds me of the Sonata.

    Of course this impression is from photos and my opinion may change in person. Anyone know which auto show here in the states it will debut at?
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    If you have ANY doubts, drive a 2005 S4 manual -- OH, by the way, there is a speeding ticket in the glove box already!

    Make no mistake the A4 3.2 Ultra sport will be a great and fun performing car, but "Senator, I've driven an S4, I've ridden in an S4 and you sir (A4) are no S4!"

    But for the money the S4 it ought to be "better" -- and it is.

    One other thing, the S4 was great in every way, but it did have high tire noise and a bit of NVH at "around town" speeds.

    The Ultra Sport I also drove, was, as Goldilocks would say "just right" if it only had a bit more grunt, the 3.2 takes care of that.
  • bmwcccbmwccc Member Posts: 234
    Thanks for the feedback. I will drive both the 2005.5 A4 and S4 when they are available next feb. Probably going to do the Tiptronic thing on both but still am glad I will have a very nice option with the A4 and a very nice faster by 1 sec. option with the S4.

    Until later
  • draguladragula Member Posts: 10
    S4 is a great car but that gas mileage is horrible along with the gas guzzler tax.
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