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Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,117
    If you can swap for $3K or less OTD, on a new '06, you'd be crazy not to do it..

    Unless... by waiting, you rack up more GM dollars and use it on a different vehicle down the road..

    Base pickup? Bad idea... no one wants them... (I doubt you will, either.. once you get it).

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  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,000
    when the new GM trucks come out, if they're really start offering killer deals on the '06 models to get rid of them?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    pick-ups are not due out for several months though, right? I am sure that once they DO arrive, '06s will be available for a song.

    ghulet: OK, let's not have any of that anti-chronic talk! :-P

    tspinner: among the 3-5 year olds, the Focus is a pretty good shot, the Jetta if you don't mind some repairs, and the last of the Proteges before the Mazda3 came out. Are you looking for big or small, older or newer?

    anon: the EX gets the same super-stereo the SI gets, right? How does that subwoofer sound? Nice car, this might be the next Honda I buy in a few years. Too bad (for me, not you) you can't get that stereo in the sedan.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,424
    i thought this was supposed to be a place i could come and get support in NOT buying more cars. Everyday, this is the one place that makes me WANT to trade cars again. Good grief, AA would be ashamed of us!

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • Thanks for the suggestions. I am probably looking in the 5 year range. Have the money for a new one but my wife will be trading in the van in a couple of years and doesn't think I should spend big bucks on car. Have about 7k from the sale of my 01 Altima.

    I work for the University of Illinois and there is a 6.5 wait on a parking space in the heart of campus where I work. I take the bus into work for free which drops me off at my house so this car is only going to be used for nights and weekends (approximately 4K miles a year).

    I haven't driven any of the cars you mentioned yet except did try a Mazdaspeed Protege but was a bit pricy. Will drive a Protege this weekend. Also will give the focus a look but the Jetta scares me a bit with repairs.

    My biggest problem is making sure there is ample head room in the size of the car. I really don't want anything bigger than an Altima or Mazda6.

    TS
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,117
    What are you saying? That the crack dealers are running the re-hab clinic?

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,424
    LOL

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • If you do not need another vehicle, why buy one? GM or any other company is not GIVING you anything. If the knock off 5 grand on a 25 grand vehicle, YOU are giving them 20 grand.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    Oh well, if headroom is an issue, the Focus might work better than the Protege, but it's still worth a try. The little Impreza I used to have had good headroom, but it is AWD and not such a used car bargain. Plus hard to find used because so few are sold.

    I hesitate to mention my own most recent purchase, because it's not for everyone, but if you want outstanding headroom in a cheaper used car with great gas mileage, you could do worse than a used Echo. Sales fell off after '02, but you could probably get an '00-'01 for around the price you mentioned.

    The current model Elantra goes back that far too, and seems to have held together pretty well, with a decently high roof. I would recommend a Civic, but at least around here $7K wouldn't buy you a 5 year old Civic. If you live someplace besides the west coast where they aren't as popular, maybe you could get one of those. The late 90s to early '00s model had good headroom.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,138
    I got one of those in the mail as well. I have something like $1700 and they offered a top-off to $3000. I have the new GM card, which has a maximum limit depending upon which GM vehicle you're buying. My dad has the old card, which (I think) lets him rack up $500 per year for up to seven years and use it on any vehicle.

    IMO, Ford has the best-built full-size pickup right now, although it doesn't offer the safety features that Toyota, Nissan, and Honda do. Also, GM should be introducing a new model within a year or so.

    I stopped using my GM card to get earnings a long time ago, but kept the account open in case I ever had the occasion to use the points. It looks like they will start expiring in 2008.
  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,411
    Well, *need* is a four-letter word in CCBA land, but we sure could use a pickup truck with a cap for my wife's antique business... as it sits, she will take the seats out of the minivan, load it up, and then it's a hauling vehicle for the season. Reconfiguring it is a major pain, so the Vibe becomes the family vehicle.

    I'm not a big fan of 600 pounds of unsecured cargo with no safety cage... a fs truck would fix that aspect.

    I should also mention that the missus steine13 has not yet, uh, "warmed up" to the Civic. As it were.

    In that context, a truck would make sense... at present rebates, and given the inventory at my favorite dealer, I "shud" be able to buy a base truck with cruise and the better cloth and *auto* [all they got] for $14 OTD. I think I could sell it for that the next day, so it's not like it's a big risk.

    As Terry said, "shortbeds do sell and they are hard to find", though that may mostly apply to the tricked-out ones, I don't know.

    I have the old, "blue" GM Card. The max you can accumulate is $3,500, which is not bad when you combine it with the $2,500 rebate on 1500 Silverados. Anybody know if Loyalty or Conquest apply...?

    What's your problem, guys? At least I have a reason to test-drive, eh?

    Anybody want a 91 Civic, cheap? ;-)
    -Mathias
  • Thanks for all the help on the cars. I live in Illinois, so a civic isn't quite the premium it is elsewhere. I almost bought a 52,000 mile 99 Civic EX 5speed under 9K the other day but had a sunroof and the head room was okay but not great.

    I do fit in Protege's pretty well. There is a 02 Protege speed LX for under 10K I might look at with 35,000 miles.

    To answer why another car. Well at night and on the weekends it is nice to be able to have transportation. The buses don't run in my neighborhood at night and weekends. Plus they don't go to the golfcourse.

    I have always had at least one car and usually two. Even when I was in college and had two. For me its worth the extra expense.
  • woodywwwoodyww Posts: 1,797
    I thought this sounded like a good idea until I read kyfdx's comments:

    *Base pickup? Bad idea... no one wants them... (I doubt you will, either.. once you get it).*

    And then I remembered the 2 base stripper P/U's I owned & how much I hated their "baseness"--I forgot about how much money I saved about 2 minutes after I got them. But that was 20-25 years ago, & "base" had a much more severe meaning back then.

    It does sound like a lot of vehicle for the $$, esp. if both you & the Mrs both like the truck.....& the shortbeds can look kind of cool.
  • tcasboytcasboy Posts: 214
    I just found this thread after quite a while trolling some of the other boards. My wife thinks I am crazy to buy so many cars, but I can't hold a candle to the folks on this thread.
    I need to show her some of your lists so I can get her off my back!

    My weakness is new cars, not used cars. I have only bought one used car, and it was a special case. My wife brought an old Datsun B210 into the marriage with her, and since then I have only bought cars brand new. Here is my very feeble list:

    1977 Datsun 280Z bought used from family friend with 6K miles on it in 1981.

    Aforemention Datsun B210

    New cars:

    1984 Mazda 626 LX 5 speed manual (bought after my Z was totaled by lady who rear ended my soon to be wife, ouch)

    1985 Toyota 4X4 Pickup 5 speed manual trans
    1989 Mazda MX6 5 speed manual trans
    1989 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4X4 5 speed man trans
    1992 Ford F150 Supercab Pickup auto
    1993 Ford Aerostar Minivan auto
    1994 Dodge Neon Sport 5 speed man trans
    1996 Ford Explorer V8 AWD auto trans
    1997 Ford F150 Supercab 4X4 auto
    2000 Honda Odyssey auto
    2001 Audi A4 1.8 Turbo, 5 speed man trans
    2004 Honda Odyssey auto
    2006 Honda CR-V, 5 speed manual

    I also have owned the following motorcylces:

    1970 Honda Z50A
    1972 Honda XR-75
    1980 Suzuki GN400
    1984 Honda FT500 Ascot
    1985 Honda XR350R
    1987 Honda TRX200 (or something like that)
    1985 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk
    1991 Honda XR250L
    2000 Harley FXDX Dyna Sport

    I definitely have some catching up to do compared to the rest of the "addicts" on this board.

    TB
  • m2kappm2kapp Posts: 16
    I am a Caraholic
    Since graduating college in 2001, I have owned/traded/sold the following cars:

    2000 Nissan Altima SE 5spd (New)
    2001 Nissan Frontier King Cab XE 4x4 (New)
    1997 Mazda Millenia (Used) (Got Married)
    2001 Mitsubishi Diamante LS (Used)
    2002 Chevrolet Impala LS (New)
    2002.5 Mazda Protege5 (New)
    2003 Pontiac Aztek (Used)
    1998 Nissan Frontier Reg Cab 5spd (Used)
    2003 Buick Rendezvous (New)
    2003 Dodge Ram Van Conversion (New -leftover)
    2004 Pontiac Aztek AWD (Used)
    2005 Hyundai Sonata GL 5spd (New)
    2005 Cadillac SRX V6 (Used)
    2005 Hyundai Tucson GL 5spd (New)
    2003 Lincoln Aviator (Used)(Currently Own)
    2004 Kia Amanti (Used)(Currently Own)

    For the first time, I am completely satisfied with the vehicles I currently own... Or am I? lol
  • The dealer in Chattanooga thought he was selling gold and we thought it was more like gold plated bronze. So on to plan B .. the MDX is on Ebay. We will see what happens. If it goes, it goes. If it doesn't then oh well .. the MDX sure looks nice with the running boards, factory rims, and a fresh wash.
  • jjtjjjtj Posts: 103
    That's one heck of an interesting collection... I have to ask ... you didn't get your fill of the Aztek with the 03? You gotta be the only one that's owned two ;) Just kidding around.. also I like how you snuck the 03 Ram Conv. Van in there. I've found that just when I think I'm satisfied with the current crop, that's when someone makes me an offer I can't refuse!
  • jefferygjefferyg Posts: 418
    I also thought that it was kinda scarey that anyone has owned TWO Azteks. But the fact that someone also has owned it's equally unattractive sibling the Rendezvous is downright unbelievable. I bet you'd have better luck finding someone who's been struck twice by lightning than finding another person whose owned 2 Azteks and a Rendezvous. :P
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,117
    Not to mention.... now totally happy with an Aviator and an Amanti??

    Sick, but not sure he is our kind of sick.. ;)

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  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,411
    The other night I'm coming to the lab to check on things... there's Alexandre from France... he's taking a smoking break.

    And he's asking my help in explaining this rental car he's got for a week... he desires me to explain what is the meaning of "R/P/D/2/1" on account he has no idea how any of this works.

    I just about lost it. I guess he's just never learned how to drive an automatic...

    -Mathias

    "Put her in H!" -Crazy Vaclav
  • from the Honda dealership that Gee went to on Friday. At first the person stated that it was a satisfaction survey and they wanted to get our ratings on the salesperson. The only rating question they asked was on the salesperson's product knowledge. Then they proceeded to ask why we didn't buy, were we still interested in the vehicle, etc. We'll see if anything materializes on that .... We still want the Civic but we aren't willing to pay MSRP for something that they want to sell 300,000 of.

    Still waiting on the Ebay ad to post. We are curious to see if it will go for the Buy It Now price. We think it's more than fair but we will see what the market will bear right now.
  • gussguss Posts: 1,181
    Which way are you going with this car buying? You traded three 2005's for a 2003 & 2004.

    Oh,I get it the Azteks's were not enough and you want to trade your way back to a Pacer.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,138
    I always loved the look of the Millenia. I saw one parked on the street the other day. It was really clean, and the design still looks good ten years later.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,138
    I won't pay MSRP for something they want to sell 100,000 of! I thought there was a Honda dealership in the group that you work for?
  • I wish. As it is we are at the mercy of local dealers. They called again this morning but we missed the call.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,624
    Looks like your MDX ad showed up. Looks nice. At least you do a good Ebay listing!

    I thought there was a problem with those big wheels fitting (or maybe that was a different set)? Not a bad idea to try and get the BIN price, since it doesn't get reached, you can always list them seperately.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    for a Civic? No way! Don't make the Honda dealers even more smug than they already are! :-P

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • The first shop that Gee went to said that they didn't fit. He researched it and found that they did fit so he took it to another shop and had them install the wheels.

    After seeing the MDX clean and with the running baords installed Gee now says he won't be too upset if it doesn't sell. We think the BIN price is fair and the reserve is even more so. We are hoping that the extras on it will make it more appealing than some of the others.

    nippon: Don't worry. We would never pay MSRP for a Civic EX. We will wait until we get the deal we want. Several people are getting them for just a few hundred over invoice so we have patience.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    stories people of paying $2000 or more OVER MSRP for SIs, another practice that should not be encouraged in any way shape or form. That's ridiculous, they are planning on selling 15K of them, and with the new model they probably will, so the supply is not that limited.

    Of course, the SI is much more recently arrived, so maybe that is just the initial rush of must-haves....

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • akanglakangl Posts: 3,596
    Somebody has to pick up the slack for Jolie

    Hey easy now, I'm broke, I can't afford to pay attention let alone buy a new car. The Titan is still plugging alone with nearly 38k miles on her. Very good and faithful truck, can't complain and I still love driving her. If I get bored with her I can always drive my friend's 2000 Explorer Sport *gag*, since he seems to want to always drive the Titan. :P

    I finally found a job that will hold me over until I find something better, which will be soon I hope. Other than that I'm just enjoying not having to deal with snow and cold........among other things.
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