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Good luck in your car search!
You will have to test drive it to see if you prefer the ride and drive to those cars.
Mackabee
I also feel Toyota made a smart move by making more major features standard on the XLE 4- namely, the power moonroof and very sharp alloys.
Now, a few downsides: The interior is roomy, but it does not have the airy feeling of the last generation. Mind you, the room IS there, but the higher beltline lends itself to a cozier atmosphere. Also, I wonder how well the Camry's conservative audience will like the fashion forward HVAC appearance (bluish lighting). I like it, THANK GOD Toyota didnt go back to the AWFUL swamp green motif of the Gen-4....
~alpha
2) The carryover transmission is the 4 cylinder's 5A.
3) The 3.5L V6 is coupled to a new 6 speed auto, which, according to the Camry press release, offers 50% quicker downshift response than the unit it replaces.
~alpha
I was very impressed with the looks of the car. It seems more compact than the '06 and a much more integrated design overall. The interior looked very sharp, especially the redesigned dashboard. The front seat bottom cushions don't appear to be any shorter than the '06, but I couldn't say if they were longer or not, just by looking in the window. Don't know how far forward the front seats were, but rear legroom looked generous. I had no way of finding out who the owner was, so all I could do was look.
Just a very sharp looking car, at least 100 percent better in both exterior and interior design than an '06, IMO.
Mackabee
Thanks!
~alpha
I have had two four cylinder Camry's (1999 and a 2005) and I prefer the additional economy of the 4 cylinder over the 6 cylinder, yet would still like all the feature that are currently offered only with the 6. If I do have to upgrade to a6 cyliner XLE, I am glad Toyota does not recommend premium fuel for their new 6 cylinder as that would definitely be a deal breaker. In this day and time, who wants to pay 20 cents more on the gallon for premium fuel?
I have written Toyota for over 6 years about the horrible swamp green color in the radio and heat/ac controls. I am really glad they have gotten rid of them in favor of amore eye appealing color. I am also glad they did not put that silly door covering over the radio on the new Camry like they did on the Avalon as it really looks cheap and is causing quite a few problems among Avalon owners.
I wish the interior was a little larger in the 2007 Camry and closer to the room of the Avalon, especially in the rear seats. It would also have been nice to have HID headlights as an option on the XLE and SE!
Do you find your 99 has sufficient pick-up? I thought that was a really bad spot in Camry history, the slowest of the 4s made.... the Generation 5 (02-06) accelerates much more strongly- and offers better efficiency to boot.
From what I understand VSC will show up in many more vehicles produced than just the XLE V6, as was common in the Generation 5.
I think the Camry's interior is the right size. Were it any larger, what would the justification for the Avalon be? HID headlamps, though- I agree with you. And I also feel the XLE V6, in addition to both SEs... should wear 17 inch tires, though Im glad the width of the 16s is greater for 2007.
~alpha
Anybody been to Chicago yet?
I'm actually flying to Chicago this weekend and I'll be at the show this Saturday! I'm gonna take a BUNCH of pictures of the Camry, specifically the SE and XLE if they have one available because I have grown tired of my Altima.
I'll also be lookin at the Sentra in depth as well.
If anybody's gonna be in the area, it would be nice to meet up or what not. I'll take a BUNCH of pictures and try to host and post them once I'm back next week.
:shades:
Mackabee
Hope this helps :shades:
I would assume the 07/08 will have the same good quality seats materials than those 09/10/11 (after min-term refresh) if history repeats itself.
Thanks for the GREAT LE pics. :P
Now what might be a factor is that the new Camry is just 'under' a specific CAFE weight limit, like a boxer, and if it adds a pound or two it gets penalized or blocked from fighting. That's what I'll have to investigate.
Nevertheless, as in all product launches the vehicles that are the sexiest and most loaded will be produced first in order to generate the 'sizzle' factor. The Camry especially is the preeminent 'cookie-cutter' vehicle in the US. The 4c CE and LE will remain 50% of sales.
To believe that all the 'good' cars are going to be built and sold at first launch and there will be none left later in the year is, ahem, hoohaa.
I thought the acceleration on my 99 4 cylinder was sufficient but the 2005 is certainly much better. I normally accelerate very very gently when possible to concerve fuel. I was always taught to accelerate like there was an egg between your foot and the accelerator and you don't want to break the egg. Braking the same way has helped me to routinely average over 40 mpg on highway driving with both vehicles and the high 20s in city driving.
You raised a new issue I hadn't seen, the 16 inch tires on the 2007 are bigger than the P 215/60/R16 on the 2005 and 2006 models? Good, a wide tire helps to provide better traction but might begin to erode my mpg. Everything has a trade off.
Regarding your comment on size I still think the Camry could have provided several more inches of leg room in the back seat and still been substantially different from the Avalon
I did get the side airbags though, which were very important for me.
As far as how quickly a dealership begins to accumulate a decent inventory of '07 Camrys, does it make any difference as to how many '06s they still have on the lot to sell?
In other words, would dealers with a pretty high inventory of '06s be a less likey place to shop early for '07s, assuming they would not want customers to be distracted from buying an '06 because of the presence of the brand new model to compare it with? Or is this just not a factor in how many '07s they begin to stock.
Just curious. Could be a guide as to where to begin expecting more of the '07s?
Actually, it does work very close to this plan. It's up to each store to do what's necessary but the bigger ones usually so a very good job of planning/selling. A more likely scenario is that a fast moving store may sell out of the '06's a week or so before the '07's arrive.
I want to personally welcome you to Edmunds. You will find a lot of great information here. As for me, I am seriously interested in the new Camry. It will be a few weeks before they are at the lots. Other models under consideration are the new ES350 and the Acura TSX.
I actually like the 16 inch alloys shown on that LE a bit better than the ones on the XLEs and Hybrid, they are different, or did I just look too quickly.
~alpha
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Mackabee
On the Lexus ES350, derived from the Camry, the trunk hinges are covered. Apparently Toyota feels they're in the catbird seat and don't have to offer outside struts on these models. The Lexsus GS has the outside struts.
Aside from the horrible plastic, the car was great. Firm, comfortable seats, great engine, great exterior, more aggressive look, ergonomic dash. Some of the controls felt a bit flimsy (climate control, etc.), and passenger seat should be 8-way, not just four way.
On to the Lexus ES350, a gorgeous interior, plus many other gizmos and options (power tilt/telescope steering column, power sunshade, 8- or 10-way passenger seat. Elegant (but expensive, of course).
My problem is I don't know what to do with my current car.
My current car has more than 200k ('95 accord), no airbags (a minor accident), no sidebrake (broken cable recently), broken temperature knob, driver side window motor almost dead, shorted out dc-outlet, rattling noise here and there, but overall it still runs well. I get 26-27 mpg (70% highway). it has been dependable since it was new, and i like it very much. but i can't resist the temptation of 07 camry...
when is right time to buy a new car to replace an old one?
The Avalon has a nice looking dark wood with the graphite leather.
> when is right time to buy a new car to replace an old one?
Economically speaking... it's when the old car dies. Emotionally speaking... as soon as possible.
well, recently i bought a new car for my wife. that old car pissed me off big time. since then, i started thinking about getting another car to replace my car.
people told me not to buy a newly redesigned model to avoid the increased demand and to avoid some quality issues. so when is good time to buy this 07 model in order to get a better deal and avoid any potential issues? any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
My '03 Accord was a first year re-design and is basically a lemon :lemon: The '05-'06 are reporting few problems.
Unfortunately it takes at least two years to get a model without bugs. So...take your chances or wait for an '09.
Nonsense. This is a misconception carried over from many years ago. If you look at Consumer Reports data for Toyota and Honda, you will find excellent quality throughout the range of years shown. You can't extrapolate your Accord experience to the entire vehicle population.
Considering this is just a family car that everyone has, would there be any initial rush of demand at all?
When I went to the Chicago autoshow, people around me didn't seem to be too impressed with the 07Camry. I overheard people saying like, "is this new camry? ...(silence)" and saw them just walk away. Not many people around the carmy (at least when I was there) compared with, say civic,vw?.
A few things I found out at the autoshow were,
*Aux input jack is hidden inside the storage space.
*even CE had audio controllers on the steering wheel.
*one model had Toyo tires while others had Michelline (not sure whether it was CE or not).
For those who's considering a 07, are you considering vehicle stability control with tracking? I never had a car with VSC, but I never had any major problem in snow/rain (I live in midwest). But I saw a couple of articles saying that VSC is worth every penny. Anyone has some opinions/experiences?