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Toyota Yaris

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  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    Where are you located?

    Ross
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    I suggest you not to thrust that much your dealer... Often, they don't even know what will their future vehicles will look like and if she tells you it's gonna be called Echo and will arrive in August, just don't believe her too much:

    http://www.donlen.com/buildstart_toyota.asp

    it clearly shows us the name will be Yaris and will arrive in March 2006... but the arrival date can change, however, but the name will surely be Yaris, no doubt. ;)
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    The information you cite is for the US. One of the reasons I asked for the location was the mention of the HB which is, of course, currently available in Canada, but not the US. I suspect(ed) that the poster may have been asking a Canadian dealer.

    Ross :D
  • carglowcarglow Posts: 91
    How is the Yaris different from the xA?

    They share the same drive train and are both hatchbacks.
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    The Yaris/ECHO HB is about 350 pounds lighter (just over 2100 lb), is shorter (147.1" in Canadian trim, less in Europe), and has less standard equipment, among other differences.

    Ross
  • You also forgot to mention that the echo has a transmission geared for fuel economy, rather then performance. Yet I always wondered why the xA still manages to take ~10.5 secs to 60 with that "performance geared" trans. (I didn't think that 500 pounds or so made THAT much of a difference ;) ) Honestly, id take the echo over the xA because it gets 42mpg and still beats it to 60! :P

    And to the one message, the us is 99% likely to get the hatches. The name is still not final but it looks like it will come here soon. Of course some americans don't like hatches, but then again all of our suv's have hatches for our stuff, and those things are almost as common as diseases! Now we won't get the diesel engines, and that would definitely be a plus for the diesel market, especially on a car of this size and weight.

    An Aygo would be a nice addition to the US, too bad a production giant like toyota won't be willing to produce a low-volume car.
  • dona83dona83 Posts: 67
    and the dealer I deal with is Downtown Toyota Centre in downtown Vancouver. They've stopped making the 2005 Echo hatchbacks and sedans, Toyota is going to lose over 40,000 sales in Canada if they wait until March 2006 to start getting new Echos in, so that's why I believe her when she says August 2005. She's going to work with me to make sure I don't have to endure the expected wait list -- Corolla, Matrix, Prius, and Echo buyers in Vancouver know what I'm talking about. And the Echo name will continue in Canada.
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    Thanks for the information. I'm in Port Alberni and was hoping to be able to get a hatch before the years end. I too am a HB sort of guy. Guess I'll have to go to the local dealer (Echo Toyota - REALLY) and have a little chat. You are right, the HB has been a real seller in BC and across Canada for that matter. I won't be expecting a big discount.
    :)

    Ross
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    Well it seems logical that the Echo arrives in August if they stopped making 2005 models, I suppose. The name Echo could still continue since we already have Echo hatchback in Canada that is very successful but I doubt they will use different names for Canada and U.S... Echo needs a new name, especially in the U.S where its reputation has to be redone because I think most people there think "Oh yeah, that ugly little car from Toyota that barely sells" when they hear "Echo". It's not the same thing here in Canada however, where the hatchback version is kind of cute and where it's REALLY popular. So if that U.S website told us it was gonna be Yaris, I think it's gonna be Yaris for Canada too! It would be too complicated and expensive to have 2 different names for the same cars in 2 countries that are next to each other...
  • dona83dona83 Posts: 67
    Look at the Kia Magentis in Canada, it's called the Optima in the US. Was going to comment on the X-Trail and the Micra by Nissan but of course they don't sell the X-Trail in the states and never sold the Micra in the states.

    I like the Echo name anyway. I don't see what would be the big deal keeping that name in Canada. The Echo definitely doesn't have a bad reputation up here.
  • ashtonybbashtonybb Posts: 3
    i have a 2002 4DR which i got it in oct of 2002. i can't monitor the distance it travels every whole tank of premium gas but i would say it is better than bigger cars. i like the ECHO name too. AYGO and YARIS if they would be the replacements. let's give it a try. :lemon:
  • ashtonybbashtonybb Posts: 3
    do you know where i can find cheaper shop manuals of toyota echo 2002? thanks.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Hi - you might want to drop by the Toyota Echo discussion which covers your MY. This discussion is about the 2006 Echo.
  • dona83dona83 Posts: 67
    How the heck did they fit the engine through that small bay? I thought my 85 Civic's hood was small. :) I mean sure it's a 1.5L but it's still sizable if you look at the current gen Echo. Maybe a rotary engine? LOL.
  • carmen1carmen1 Posts: 19
    I will be ordering a 2006 Echo hatchback 3-door and do not know what colors are available. (I'm getting a deal thru a staff so I have to place my order ASAP in order to ensure I get one.)

    The 2005 colors are white, silver, gold, red, blue and black. He thinks the colors will be the same for 2006.

    However, after reading this post, it sounds like they are NOT making the 2006 Echo. Is this being replaced by the Yaris in Canada? If so, what are the color options?

    Or are they sending us the American rejects of Echo hatchbacks and labelling them 2006?

    Nevertheless, I have to buy a new car, Echo or Yaris and need to know what colors are available. Will this be available in October 2005?

    BTW, I'm from Vancouver Canada.

    Thanks.
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    Sorry but you have this rather twisted around. They CAN'T send "the American rejects of Echo hatchbacks" because the Americans never got the hatchback. The ECHO name, according to what I have heard, is likely to continue in Canada, as it has been a top seller both in sedan & hatchback form. It is only in the States that the ECHO has been a failure and what the rest of the world calls the Yaris/Vitz has not been available. We (Canada) will be getting the new beast, slightly larger and, supposedly, quite a bit more refined. It should be available sometime between the end of July (I doubt it) and the beginning of December. I have no ideas as to the colours.

    Ross
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    You lucky ducks. I wish they had an Echo hatch in the US.
  • carmen1carmen1 Posts: 19
    Thanks for the clarification Ross. I'll assume the colors won't change much and pick silver. Can't wait to see what the changes will be like.
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    I too like the silver, and will likely go that route if the colours don't change from the current ones. The Japanese domestic model looks very good to me, but, of course, the interior is likely to be quite different in the Canadian addition. Hopefully we will know before long. :)
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    I just spoke with my local Toyota dealer Port Alberni, BC, and found out the following. The 5-door hatch, at least, is marked as still being in production. He has no advance ordering material (not the proper term) for the ECHO, but does for the 2006 Corolla and some others. This leads him to believe that the 2006 won't become available until AT LEAST the end of September. So, Carmen1, if your order is being accepted, it looks like you will be getting a 2005. To be honest, I would have absolutely no reservations about getting the current HB. Due to home remodelling costs, I can't reasonably buy until Fall, so I thought that I might as well wait for the 2006. Either way, I don't see how we could lose.
    ;)
    Ross
  • carglowcarglow Posts: 91
    Does anyone know for sure yet?
  • snifflessniffles Posts: 34
    It looks like the USA will get a hatchback replacement for the Echo in March
    2006. Scroll down towards the bottom of this web site.

    http://www.donlen.com/buildstart_toyota.asp
  • alanyalany Posts: 10
    Looking at this article:
    http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/02/redesign_of_toy.html
    it sounds like the recently revised Japanese version of the Echo includes Toyota's new stop-start system (Intelligent Idling Stop System). Apparently this reduces fuel consumption by an additional 8.5%!

    Does anyone know if the 2006 Echo/Yaris for the North American market will offer this? I'll be in the market for a new vehicle in the next few months, and I was concerned when I heard that the 2006 version will be 200 pounds heavier, but if it includes this technology, I'm definitely sold on the Echo. (High fuel efficiency is important to me, since I do a lot of driving.) I'm in Canada, so I'm most likely considering the hatchback model.
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    Looks like there has been some change about Toyota's next generation sub-compact:
    http://www.donlen.com/buildstart_toyota.asp

    It seems like the name "Yaris" isn't gonna be used or they're still not sure whether to keep Echo or to go with an all new name! TBD probably means: To Be Decided.
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    To Be Disclosed, perhaps? I dunno.
  • bamacarbamacar Posts: 749
    world TBD - To Be Determined
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    That's the one
  • alb25alb25 Posts: 3
    The colours that will be available for the 2006 Echo HB will be:

    - Polar White
    - Silver Streak Mica
    - Black Sand Pearl
    - Absolutely Red
    - Copper Orange Mica
    - Blazing Blue Metallic
    - Bayou Blue Metallic

    There will also be a 3 door RS model in 2006 as well.
  • rossm2rossm2 Posts: 96
    Two questions:
    1) What is the source of your information,

    2) What country?
  • alb25alb25 Posts: 3
    Work in the auto industry, and am a fellow Canadian. :shades:
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