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July 28: Order Premium GT
Sept 8: Order entered into Ford system
Oct 8: Car scheduled for production week of 10/24
Oct 26: Car produced and put on carrier with expected delivery date of 11/3
Looks like I'll get the car the end of next week or the beginning of the following week. Total time from when the order was entered to anticipated delivery: 8 weeks.
I got my VIN number Thursday, 10/27. Arranged financing myself (72 mos., 5.2%) thru NetBank. I'll get the check next week and I'll bring that with the rest of my deposit and that should be it.
Hang in there. If anything should go wrong, I would recommend my dealer, but it is in Northern NJ...not sure where you are from.
Ford and its family of companies (Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, etc.) offers several discount plans for employees, retirees, and other organizations where a partnership of some kind exists. Plan discounts vary. Ford offers several discount levels (i.e. Z plan, X plan, A plan, etc.) The best discounts are for direct employees and retirees...well below invoice and with the holdback going to the buyer rather than the dealer. The X plan (called S plan by Mazda) is available to partnership organizations. This is the most common plan because so many people belong to organizations with this qualifying designation. The Xplan is just about at invoice, but the dealer gets to keep the 2-3% holdback for the car and some additional support. Ford dealers DO NOT have to participate and most will not for hot cars. Myself and others on this forum qualified for the program and also found a nice dealership who would accept the Xplan for a GT. Slower selling models, like the V6, can easily be purchased with an Xplan because the allocation is plentiful.
I hope this helps...and hopefully you qualify for a plan.
Bob
If my dealer is to be believed, they said my Mustang was the only one they've sold on x plan. They also won't honor x plans on the Escape hybrid.
While I enjoyed my ownership experience with my Mustang over the last several months, I finally broke down and sold it for way more than I paid for it. I had several offers over the months, but since winter is coming, I finally broke down and took the last offer.
The GTs are still hot cars and tough to get. They're still bringing MSRP and above around here for a new one.
I expect that will change come the first snow fall, though.
--no flow fuel fill issues
--I only had one disk that wouldn't play in my "Shaker" (and it was a "burned disk")
--tranny was fine (manual)
--no issues with my compressor (although, it did cycle on and off when I was using the A/C....but so has any car I've ever owned).
--mine didn't leak
--steering worked just fine
Please, don't drive yourself crazy. I've told other people that this is an out and out muscle car. It makes no pretentions that it's anything other than that. If you're going to be afraid of it, maybe it's not for you.
Bob
Certainly not anywhere close to what they make selling at MSRP, but it isn't like a giveaway for the dealers...
regards,
kyfdx
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So, in the case with the Saab, with a $30K MSRP, the holdback portion would be about $900 (or 3%). That means that GM pays the SAAB dealer $600 for the transaction over and above the holdback amount.
Probably not a bad deal if it's on a vehicle that isn't selling. But, on a Mustang GT, dealers are making around $2,500 profit per transaction (PLUS 3% holdback on top of that). That's why many dealerships don't/won't honor the employee pricing plans on Mustang GTs.
On an F150, the dealerships will sell them all day long on employee plans, however.
So that'll make it just a little over a year since I originally ordered, Nov. 16, 2004...
Now the process of seeing what I can get for a trade, 1996 V8 with 46,000 miles on it. If it's not what I want, it may just sit in my driveway till I sell it myself. I've had 3 people show interest. It's pretty much loaded, which should help with resale, and has been taken care of. After I got the phone call, I told my husband, geez, you know I was SO excited to get this car a year ago, and it feels like the excitement wore off.....but am sure it'll return when I see it. I'm really bummed that I have to sell my 96, has been a fun, fun car and have got SO many compliments, although I KNOW I'll probably get more than I want with the 2006. The high school kids in my area really like the color - purple - both high schools sport the purple color....maybe I should put my for sale sign on it across the street at the high school...LOL. I'll let you know how I come out in the end here, wish me luck! At least I'll get to drive it a few weeks and get used to it before the Wisconsin snow starts to fall. Yes, it'll get snow action. My 96 got me through 10 years, although there were a few times I had to hitch a ride to work...and be pushed out of parking lots cause the snow was too deep!
OH, and Graphicguy......I'm sad.....you sold your stang??? Wow, you're brave, but I'm sure you made someone smile......what kind of ride did you go to??
Happily awaiting my Torch Red in WI...... :shades:
My husband's convertible needed $2-$3K in engine repairs when I was pregnant with our third child. I told him he could drive my Explorer and it was time to use that money as down payment on a minivan. However, he hoped that one day he'd be able to fix up that car, so it stayed in our driveway for four or five years. And without fail, every spring people would start ringing my front doorbell: "Is that car for sale?" Total strangers. Lawn guys who'd seen it there forever. People who'd just been driving by. I even had people stop by after it was gone, wanting to know who I'd sold it to and how much I'd sold it for and boy they wish they'd known I was gonna sell it... lol.
There is an '03 black GT convertible at a Ford dealer very close to our home that I'll be going to see. It has 18K on it, about the same price. The carfax is linked and it appears to have had one local owner. I have a mechanic who's checked out all our used cars prior to purchase, so I'm not excited 'til he sees it, but I want to make sure it looks good in person before I pay him to go over.
It may take a little longer than 3 weeks after getting a VIN#, but I hope your dealer is right. They'll probably get it into production within 2 weeks, though. Then they have to ship it to you.
You may want to wander over to the REAL WORLD TRADE IN VALUES in the Smart Shopper threads. Post the details of your '96 and get a "knowledgeable" value for it from Terry (rroyce).
Only reason I sold my '05 GT was I made money on it. The Mustang GTs are still in short supply. Most people don't have your patience. They want one "NOW" and are willing to pay for the privilege. I'm sure it helped that mine looked better than when I drove it off the dealer's lot, too. Not a ding or scratch on it. Plus, I had about 10 coats of wax (Zaino) on it. Even the interior still smelled new.
The fact that I wasn't going to drive it during the winter months kind of sealed the deal for me in my mind.
As far as what I'm looking for now, I'm in no hurry. I've got a 4Runner I'm using now and it will do "winter duty". But, I've test driven an RX8 (had one prior to the Mustang but some yahoo totalled it). I've also tes driven an Audi A4 Quattro....not bad but really not my cup 'o tea. I drive the new Lexus IS (almost as cramped in the rear as the Mustang....plus, Lexi dealers want over $40K for the IS350, which is the only one I'd be interested in. Last night, I drove an Acura TL. It's about as fast as my previous RX8 and is silky smooth....tons of features....great build and good looking. But, it's FWD. Although, I didn't notice the FWD during my test drive, I know that it will show itself once I live with it for awhile. Still, Acura did a fine job with the suspension.
I'll also look at an Infiniti M series and maybe the G series (looked at them before but was really turned off by the interior).
As I said, I'm not in any hurry. Since I'm test driving, I've got dealers calling me everyday wanting me to come in to "make a deal". We'll see which car and deal grabs me on which day.
Right now, the Acura TL is the front runner.
That's why it's so hard to find one....and once you do, why it's so hard to get any discount on them. My original dealer says that anyone ordering now, shouldn't expect their GT until next Spring. He won't even place an order unless MSRP is the agreed upon price. He's got a couple of slightly used ones he got at auction and won't part with them for less than $200 under the original MSRP. They're snapped up as quickly as the new ones.
I got lucky with my x-plan. The dealer didn't know how well the new model would be received and it was in the dead of winter for me to get the deal I got.
2006 Ford Mustang V6 Premium Coupe
Auto tranny
Pony Pkg
Interior Upgrade Pkg
Side Airbags
Leather Seats
MSRP 24,515
Invoice 22,838 (includes 312 manufacturer advertising fee)
Offer accepted: 22,838 + TTL
This was all done by email - I haven't yet been to the dealer. The sales guy (and myself for that matter) are out of town this weekend, so I've got a few days to sleep on this before going in for a test drive. Oh - I will be factory ordering the car(haven't decided on the color).
So, what do you think?
(BTW, the best I could do on a GT was $800 over invoice - I'm still considering that. But, $4000 more than the V6 - what would you do? V6 owners - are you happy?)
My advice: Do your dealing in person, stick to your guns, be ready to walk away, and put one on order as a backup plan (it's easy to get your deposit back -- these things sell themselves, dealers aren't worried about unloading the car you ordered).
I guess it depends on the dealership.
Found it online at a dealership really close to home. I took it on a short test-drive yesterday, then had the mechanic look at it today. I ducked out of work to meet him there and his only really comment was flaking paint on the hood, so I'll have that redone. (Anything to have someone else keep it over the next few weeks. LOL!) They were asking $18,500K, which was around $20,400 OTD, and I signed off on it at $20,100. The auto guy had a suggested retail at about that before fees, and all my research for that car/miles said the same, so I was mostly negotiating for the heck of it; I'd have taken it where it was.
Left them a deposit so I could run back to work and will go sign off on the remaining paperwork tonight. It's a gorgeous day, approaching a record-high, I now own a convertible and I can't even be seen driving it. Boo hiss.
I say rent a garage for a month if you can't find a family member or friend to help you out.
First of all, VIN is the Vehicle Identification Number (or serial number). VOC is Vehicle Order Confirmation. DORA is Dealer Order Receipt Acknowledgement.
Now that we've got the acronyms out of the way, we need to talk about priority codes and allotments. Priority codes are the numbers given BY YOUR DEALER to the Ford factory that stipulates how quickly they want the order built. The priorities range from a best of 10 (built within 8-10 weeks) to 99 (no way on this earth it will ever get built...usually given to someone who the dealer doesn't think is seriously going to buy).
Allotment is the dealer's allowance for Mustangs in a given period. Dealers are only allowed to have X amount of Mustangs based on many factors.
You need a 10 priority number and to make sure the dealer has current allotment in order for you to receive your car within the 8-12 week period it usually takes to get your car built and shipped.
VOC tells you exactly what you've ordered with your priority number. It will also tell you what the MSRP of your order is. Some dealers will actually let you see what the employee discount plan prices are on the VOC. Don't build up your hopes that you can buy one for anything less than MSRP, though. It happens, but rarely. These cars are in high demand and the factory is running full tilt just to keep up (at least for the GT models....V6 models are more plentiful).
DORA adds to the VOC the terms of your deal (what the dealer is selling the car for, terms of delivery, what happens if you or the dealer can't meet the terms, etc). The dealer signs it as do you. The DORA is more iron clad than the VOC. But, most dealers usually include some terms stipulating a certain amount of money you have to give them (usually the security deposit) if you default on taking the car.
Hope this helps.
computer.
This car is beautiful. It is pretty much the nicest, most powerful car I've ever had. I got compliments on it before I even drove off the lot. The dealer I went to is in a small town and most of the passers-by just stood there and looked at it while I was taking delivery. Never had that kind of experience with any other car. Wife and kids LOVE the car, too (my wife jumped in the car as soon as she saw it).
Here is what I got:
GT Premium
Silver w/ Red Leather (this combo is NICE)
AUTO
Side Air Bags
IUP
TOTAL PRICE (incl tax, tags, title) = $28,259 (used X-plan)
Plates were on the car when I got there...looked as if the dealership's whole day revolved around my delivery. The whole experience was very positive (I also got my own financing which made the delivery go a lot quicker).
I look forward to many thrilling miles in this ultimate machine.
I guess I'll have to change my Edmunds ID to jagzGT!!
18" 64Es
manual
premium package
Got it for $1200 under MSRP. Used Ford.com's "Let us find your car", and did it all via email until the hour I picked it up. Since it had to be driven from another state, dealer took another $200 off for mileage (300 miles on the odometer) without me asking. Heard that dealer had a terrible month last month, so not sure if that had anything to do with it, but it was the easiest car experience I've ever had.
I found a self-storage place that has inside garages available (vs. on the grounds spots). The franchise closest to my office runs around $325 for a month; going to the one about 5 miles away is $170 ... which do you think I'm going with? LOL! Not like I'm going back and forth much. The car is having one bit of warranty work done on a leaking seal, and I pick it up today, then over to the body shop, then off to storage until Christmas eve.
Although a friend did say I could put it in her garage and I may take her up on that. I just have this horrible vision of it getting accidentally scratched or something dropped on it if it's staying where there are people out and about. Which yes, will happen after it comes to our house, but it would be nice to have it show up Christmas day still looking great.
If there are no orders in front of yours, then insist on a priority 10. IF there are orders in front of you, then the dealership would probably list them as (first to last) 10-20-30-40.....etc. It will depend on their allotment, also. Ask them if they can accomodate your order with their allotment in the next 30-days.
I think the priority part has been answered, but basically the lower the priority, the faster you will get your automobile.
X-Plan is a pricing plan for employees of Ford business partners (e.g. major oil companies). It ends up being around 1% below invoice. If you do a Google on Ford X-Plan, you should be able to find a list of companies that qualify. Info on your company's code would likely be available from HR, company employee organizations, or even an internal website. I/We can't help you beyond that, because every company is different. (e.g. I have to go through an employee organization because HR and the internal website don't give the code because it's a Ford initative, rather than a company initative.)
I would also never buy a car from someone who wasn't local, especially someone in another state. What recourse would you have if there are problems, fraud, a lemon, etc.?
I did find about 3 dealers in the greater LA County area willing to honor x-plan which was a little surprising but then again I wasn't looking for a GT & did all my negotiating online & over the phone. Still, I think if you're willing to talk to a few different dealers & have them compete against each other you might be able to score a pretty good deal.....
I haven't owned one long enough to tell you the long term cons of a convertible. I would imagine the biggest concern being something going wrong with the top. Ford offers an extended service agreement which covers the top for 6 years so that might be an option. But normal maintenance isn't much different. I get it washed the same as I would a hard top. I live in LA so it doesn't get too cold & it doesn't snow here so other than rain, there isn't much to prevent you from driving with the top down. The only other real downfall is I've got shoulder length hair which can get can get a little knotted if I'm driving w/the top down on the freeway or at high speeds. But driving it is tons of fun & to me, more than makes up for any of that. There's nothing quite like the sense of freedom I get driving with the top down. I guess in the end it really does comes down to personal preference & what makes sense for you, where you live, etc. If you haven't driven one I would recommend you go for a test drive & compare. I don't know if that helps or not - I hope it does. Hopefully, someone else can chime in here w/their experiences. Please, let us know how you make out!
Am I going to get a notice saying that Ford wont build it??
Whats the deal with the 5 speed and the Pony Package?? Anyone know the REAL DEAL??
I know that I havent seen any 5 speed Ponies on the lots I have been on, but why wont they even build one??
Thanks!
When my husband had his convertible he used to always leave it unlocked. I asked him why and he said if people were going to break in, he'd prefer they not cut the top in the process. So everything of any value went in the trunk and the doors weren't locked. Sure enough, the only time it was broken into, they destroyed the ignition but the top was fine.
Unfortunately, the car did need a new top (can't remember why, but this was around the 10 year mark) and we replaced it. Wasn't 6 months later when the engine block cracked and he never drove that car again.
I have taken trips to the mountains, beach, and a road trip from NC to NYC a few weeks ago, and I'll trade the slightly elevated noise for the opportunity for topless diving any day. And yeah, it looks great too!
No one ever buys a convertible because it's practical. For that matter, what in the world is practical about the Mustang in general? However, the fun quotient trumps all! :shades: :shades: :shades:
(speaking in round #s)
MSRP $25,900
Paid 24,300 ($200 over invoice incl. delivery) +
$400 in dealer fee = $24,700 OTD.
If you don't mind color, I've seen as low as $21K for deluxe 2005 verts advertised. They all seem to be selling for invoice or just above. I was given about $1K over what my trade was worth, so I have to imagine they are being thrown some discount $$ to clear out the '05s. I was told $2K over MSRP for a GT :0
Let me know if anyone has questions on my dealer/purchase experience.
Car is beautiful, drives like butter. V6 sounds like a V8. Great stereo (shaker 500). Can't believe how inexpensive this car is given the apparent quality of the ride.
Best of luck to everyone.