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The GLK250 Bluetec is less expensive than the GLK350 gas. No breakeven to worry about there. Fun to drive and rated 38 MPG combined in the EU.
1. did Heritage already have the car you wanted on their lot or did they get it for you?
2. the runner-up to Heritage? - who would you have purchased from if not Heritage?
3. name of salesman at Heritage?
Heritage didn't have the Black on Black TDI manual so I had to place a order. Order was placed on April 8th '13, they announced me that the car will be a 2014 model rather than 2013 but the production of 2014 doesn't start till July '13 so I'm still waiting for my car.
After I've exchanged emails with about 10 dealership around the Atlanta area, I've started to get lower price offers. The Heritage gave me the best price but you need to negotiate. The next dealer option was Nalley VW
The salesperson was a wonderful lady named Silvija A. who is very professional and pleasant to deal with.
Just as a note, I wasn't too impressed with Jim Ellis dealers. When I was asking them for a good price, they would sent me the MSRP price. The failure to offer me a good deal, make them loose my business.
Good Luck!
In any case, I think if I do the Passat, I'd like to do the TDI. I have received an offer as follows:
Sticker: 28545
Offer Price: 24987
State Registration: 38
Title Processing: 2
Title Fee: 8
1 Yr Registration Processing: 3
Registration Fee: 21
Lien Fee: 2
Sales Tex (est): 1861.53
OTD: 26886
Any thoughts on the overall deal?
Also, I noted that the TDI has electric power steering. Anyone have a comment on the different 'feel' of steering between the TDI and non-TDI (with hydraulic steering)?
Thanks.
Myself I'm a fan of German cars and to mention that my last 3 cars were BMWs and now decided to give a try to VW Passat TDI. My fiancee have a Honda Accord but I would choose the Passat at any time.
I also believe that the quote you got for the SE Sunroof TDI is fair but you can also bargain for floor mats or something else on that price.
Can you please tell me the MFs and Residuals for the 2013 Jetta Sportwagen TDI for 39/12 and 36/12 lease?
Thank you!
Great topic. From what I have read resale value is much better on the TDI's so you can figure that in as well.
You have me thinking. Hope some others can chime in.
MRSP = 34270
INV = 32294
incentive = 2000
cost to me = 30294
Out the door with tax, title and license 31693
also, is the premium really worth the extra dollars? new to this forum, but not to the site.
If it is worth it or not to get the SEL it comes to personal preference. Myself I've ordered the TDI 6 speed manual SE because is simple (less things to go bad) and the lower price that offer a good bang for the buck. The few things I would miss from the SEL is the Wood trim, Fender sounds system and the garage opener which does not justify the extra 5-6k$ price.
On a short term lease with very limited miles even 15K/ year it just doesn't add up. I wish you luck either way and hope you get a great deal and a wonderfull car.
I test drove a Passat SE and a TDI SE. Is it just my impression that the TDI feel a bit more powerful than the SE? I am new to diesel fueled cars. What are the main reasons to buy a diesel car vs a gasoline-fueled car? Diesel price is about the same as regular gasoline where I live. If fuel economy is the main reason, I would need to take a closer look at the math. I drive no more than 10k miles a year. Does that make the SE a better choice?
Thanks.
If I had kept it clean and put 50k miles on it the trade-in value according to Edmunds would be $7572. When I bought mine in 2005 the 1.8T gasser model was actually selling for $200 less than the TDI. The trade-in on the gasser today is $5844. You can expect a diesel to return the difference when you sell it. So the pleasure of driving a diesel vs gas and the far better mileage are likely to pay off even more when you trade in on a new diesel. If you are buying a VW the TDI is the only thing that makes any sense.
MSRP: 29340
Sale Price: 25623
Trade in: 11500
Sale Price
Trade Difference: 14123
Dealer Charges: 199 ( I know,I know, but I talked them up $1000 on the trade-in)
Final Price: 14322
Sales Tax: 852
Window
Tinting: 199
I had applied and was approved for 1.74% at PenFed, but gave the dealer a chance to meet or beat. I ended up with 1.44% for 60 months through VW.
I think I got good deal. I was able to get the high end for my trade-in and a nice starting discount.
Selling price $23,082
Trade In $ 6,500
6% Tax $ 995
Tag Fees $ 182
OTD $17,759
They have to locate Night Blue over Black for me, but should be there Monday!
I dealt with 4 local dealers to purchase a 2013 Jetta Sportwagen. I purchased a silver, DSG auto, panoramic sunroof, came with monster matts and carpet matts, this is a non navigation model (they call this a "Premium Sunroof". List was $29,760.
I was told REPEATEDLY by other dealers that they COULD NOT make the deal that I desired. I was informed REPEATEDLY that they would be losing money. I finally got the deal done.
Mind you...a trade was involved....but I paid $23,801. I traded a 2001 loaded Acura TL with 167,500 miles. Here is the rub....other dealers offered me between $1500-$2500 for my trade (which sounds about right). I finally got the deal that I wanted when a dealer gave me $4K for my trade. With Trade and dealer fees my total was $23,801.34...I opted to pay the taxes myself outside of the loan. Given the real world trade value of my Acura....I feel like I really bought the Jetta for approx. $26,300 given that my trade was (at most) $2500 max at other dealers. I also took the 0% for 60 months with this deal.
I post this information here as I really appreciate others who have posted their experiences...it was very helpful to me. It took 4 dealers to get it done...but it is done. FYI...all other dealers were within hundreds of one another...it would have taken approximately $27,600 for the Jetta and they would have given me between $1500-$2500 for my trade.
After driving my TL for SOOOO many years...this car is quite a different experiment for me. I hope that I like it. Good luck all!
Narrowed down my list to Passat TDI Manual. Emailed about 15 dealers in DFW, OKC, Houston & Austin. Only a few replies with actual quotes. Here's the best I have
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MSRP: $ 27,390.00
Your Price: $ 23,235.00 plus TTL (6.25% Tax in Texas)
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OTD probably around $25.7. No 0% APR.
From other posts, it seems people are able to get this for about $25k OTD. Considering, there are only 3 or 4 vehicles in Texas (most not my color choice), what price I can realistically target?
Also, one of the dealers tells me I can get either 0% or dealer cashback. Is that true? Can I not get both?
Thanks.
- What does the maintenance of the current Passat involve? Dealet tells me Oil changes are only once every 10k miles. Is that practical?
- How's the reliability?
I am torn between Accord and Passat. Hoping to get some help in making the decision.
Thanks
HK
Thanks for the help!
Kevin
After a week of back and forth with several dealers, I finally put down $500 deposit for the following.
Passat TDI SE Manual
$24.6k OTD (including 6.25 Texas Title)
The car is in Austin and has about 250 miles on it (because it was traded from FortWorth to Austin sometime back). The dealer is going to get it from there to DFW, so the car is gonna have about 500 miles on it by the time I pick it up.
Looking at some of the other purchases posted here, others have done a few to several hundred dollars better, but the fact that there are only about 10 cars in the entire state of Texas, and only 2 of the color that I wanted, I figure it's an ok deal.
Feel free to chime in.
-HK
Dealers were falling all over themselves to sell me a car at invoice, I actually changed what I was asking for to $500 under the day I bought the car. I still think I may have left some money on the table, but was tired of dealing with it and the deal seemed good enought as-is, especially with the cheap money thrown in.
I suspect the deals on 2013s will just get better with the new generation just about here, but supply of the MKVIs (at least TDI Golfs) seemed to be getting a little thin, and I was somewhat specific as to what I wanted.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
This will give me almost 4 yrs or 48k B2B coverage
O. R.
A NEW 2013 Jetta tdi w/premium/nav for 22444 plus TTL,yes it is with nav
(Not zero apr!)
The dealer said some kind of sale on tdi !?!..here in Atlanta
Wife says go for new one..any thoughts?
Cheers
Kalyan
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New to this forum, but I wanted to get some feedback about a deal I am being offered. I am looking at the 2013 Jetta TDI Premium + Navi. It's black (or blue) with the corn silk interior. I guess the invoice is 25,866, and there is 2,000 in incentives as well as a 'special' discount of $500. The dealer added the floormats and first aid kit, $270 i think. That makes the price 23366 plus ttl = 25,498 OTD. How does this stack up? Any other feedback is welcome as well. Thanks!
I am being told invoice is 28,537. How accurate is this number?
Thanks you for the help.
Remember that the invoice price is constructed to give the customer another fixed-reference. It doesn't necessarily relate to what the dealer actually paid for the car.
Negotiate the lowest price you can - it can be lower than invoice sometimes. Recently i've been reading about people buying VWs for below invoice price but I've never gotten such a good price. (During the 2000s I bought 4 VW TDIs, best was for $500 under MSRP.)
Jetta is more than just sluggish, as some of its reviewers have stated, it is down right unsafe. When the car regularly takes several seconds to respond when you press the gas pedal, won't down shift, or misfires and results in a "reduction in performance" or what I call a several second complete loss of power, it puts you and other drivers around you at risk for accidents that could have deadly results.
Other effected models beetle golf rabbit eos gti r32 tiguan touareg hybrid cc.
Years 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Jetta is more than just sluggish, as some of its reviewers have stated, it is down right unsafe. When the car regularly takes several seconds to respond when you press the gas pedal, won't down shift, or misfires and results in a "reduction in performance" or what I call a several second complete loss of power, it puts you and other drivers around you at risk for accidents that could have deadly results.
Other effected models beetle golf rabbit eos gti r32 tiguan touareg hybrid cc.
Years 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
he also prefaced with generally when they have promotions you either get to take advance of the 0% APR or cash discounts, not both.
(I'm not sure what kind of financing deal you got cliv13, did you get the 0% APR on 2013 Jetta TDIs going on now till Sept. 3rd?)
In any case, I believe my research on this site and your note did in fact get me a great deal tonight for the exact same car:
2013 Jetta TDI Premium (Metallic Gray)
all bells and whistles...fender sound system, leatherette, touch screen, sirius, sunroof, rubber floor mats / first aide ...
Sale price: $23,950 (customer discount off list price $2710) + TTL (~$2200)
no money down and none due at signing, 0% APR for 72 months
i was shown the invoice of the car being a little over $25,000
...and just as I planned for my final negotiation item, right before agreeing to it all I said to throw in free window tinting and we had a deal. he was resistant at first but did the whole talk to the manager thing, and quickly came back to me to put out his hand to shake. cant believe it... everything literally worked in my favor.
btw a little background for me: went through this last year with intent to purchase a passat (same time of year and they had the 0% APR/60 month deal), but got talked into a lease for lower payments. was always a bit buyers remorse about it since im loyal and happy with cars for a long time (had my 2002 Jetta for 10 yrs/ 100k miles). Then come last sunday my car was hit head-on by a drunk driver running a red arrow and my car was totaled. obviously a terrible situation, but I walked out completely fine and just have to deal with an insurance claim. im safe and healthy (pretty sure.. heres hoping nothing randomly comes up) and i got my do-over. better negotiating and ownership instead of lease with a more fuel-efficient car. oh and moral to the story is... VW makes SAFE cars and airbags and seat belts DO save lives.
thanks for posting all the details. enjoy your new VW. maybe see you on freds tdi club too (it's the 2nd coolest automotive web site on the internet!).
Be sure and keep us posted on how you like your new Jetta TDI
Ill also mention I went in and told the sales guy "look, I dont want to do the BS dance around a price, back and forth speaking to a manager, writing numbers on a notepad thing. I want to cut to the chase, this is the number I want (handing him the printout mentioned before), give me your best offer." Personally, I dont like too much haggling and I feel like the gentlemen took me seriously and respected me. Doing research on here really helped! I've been told walking away and contacting other dealers to beat pricing works in your favor, but getting a nearly $3k discount and 0% APR for 72 MONTHS seemed like a very good offer. Obviously I wish I had gotten the price tax including.. but I do respect CA and TX are apples and oranges for fees. Plus, inventory of the 2013 Jetta TDI is getting very small and most had the Nav which I didnt want to pay for.
And thank you guys for the well wishes. I'm covering all my bases with going to doctors, scheduled for a CT scan to check for concussion, spinal x-ray and nerve analysis. honestly cant believe i walked out of that car without a scrape, bruise, anything. Ive never had an airbag go off on me and all it felt like was a floaty cloud brushing against my face. really think it was the seat belt doing its job (but no bruise from it). i might have been going as fast as 40 mph with no time to even hit the brake. seriously impressed with how well these VWs are made. my passat was like mike tyson being hit in the face: def got his face ALL messed up but stood his ground. poor thing really took one for the team.
and i definitely will! i enjoyed test driving it...wish i could have tested a manual but there literally arent any available. its coming from LA today and I should get it this afternoon.
I walked away from Mossy VW when they tried pulling a fast one on a deal they emailed me.
the 0% APR for 72 months is a promo only for the Jetta TDI. Last year the TDI's were excluded from the deal completely... this is a great time to buy them. Also why I appreciated the slight buying pressure of do now or die. If it wasnt for that financing deal I wouldnt have been able to justify the price to buy instead of leasing again (or giving up the lovely premium).
I agree the add-ons are a bit of a scam. I hate signing the contract after spending 4 hours at the dealer and being presented with all these additional suggested features. I'm going back to resign today to take off the extended warranty I got (finally caved with the AAA & costco member added discount on the (she said) already discounted labor day special. for $1960 I got 7 years / 70k full coverage. however she never mentioned a $100 deductible if you dont get serviced at the purchasing dealer. and since you are fully covered for 3 years... that really means spending $500 a year to be covered.
the whole reason im sticking with VW is the fact I'm confident my car wont have a bunch of problems down the road. I probably only spend a couple $1,000 outside of standard maintenance on my first jetta I had 10 yrs with over 100k on it.
i am, however, keeping the gap coverage for $10/month (also discounted for AAA % costco) as this car purchase is all due to a totaled car hit by a drunk.
Can't go wrong in the mid-size category these days as long as you stay with the major players. The Passat is certainly one of them.
The only competitor that the VW TDI lineup has to worry about is the new Mazda 6 TD. It will have 173 HP and 310 lb-ft Torque out of it's all aluminum, ultra low-compression (14 to 1) twin-scroll turbo. It will be in showrooms in late October.