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Kia Spectra5

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  • please excuse my ignorance on this topic but Kia made a car for ford?. could you please point me in a direction for more details on this?

    thanks Geo.
  • Kia made a car for Ford from the late 80s to mid 90s. It was originally called the Ford Festiva and was a replacement for the Ford Fiesta (a Euro Ford) sold in the U.S. in the 80s. It was based on the Kia Pride which, I've heard, was based on the Mazda 121. Beginning in 1994, the boxy Festiva was replaced by the more aerodynamic Ford Aspire (which was sold in Korea as the Avella) which was sold until 1997 I believe. Even though the Festiva and Aspire looked very different, their running gear was nearly identical.
  • Hey thanks! has Kia made cars or parts for any other company?.

    thanks again
    Geo.
  • Don't know. They are owned by Hyundai now, but I don't know if they are making parts or cars for each other.
  • I'm looking for a versatile mini-wagon/hatch that I would use to drive my kids around town (4 months & 4 years) 80% of the time. I'm curious if anyone has put car seats in the back seat and how much room there is. I've found a few cars druing some test drives, that the infant seat (when behind the driver) doesn't allow me to put the driver's seat as far back as I would like. Is the trunk big enough for a stroller and some groceries? Finally, what kind of mileage do people get with their Specta5?

    Any thoughts would be great!
  • Kia made for Ford, doohickie! That's a short but well-written history of the cute little Festiva and the Aspire that followed it. I remember in 1987-1988 starting to research buying the Ford Festiva and the Chevy Sprint. I liked both of their body styles and eventually bought neither. My first new car purchase ended up being a 1994 Ford Escort station wagon.

    Incidentally, as far as I know, Ford is the only carmaker that Kia has entered into an agreement to make cars for. They worked with/used some Mazda designs, as doohickie already mentioned in the above post.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • My first new car purchase ended up being a 1994 Ford Escort station wagon.

    We still have our 95 Escort Wagon. It runs great. It will be my daily driver after I sell my Aspire tomorrow. Once I get my new car, it will be driven by my sons again (the older one learned on it and drove it while in high school; the younger one will get his permit soon).
  • w9cww9cw Posts: 888
    Ford and Mazda have collaborated for a long time as well, as Ford owns a portion of Mazda. The old Ford Courier pickup of the '70s, was a rebadged Mazda B1600. And, the Ford Probe and Mazda 626 were built on the same production line at Flat Rock, MI.
  • Yep, I know. I've been to that plant.
  • To carquery-

    This vehicle is very spacious and extremely comfortable for a smaller car. The hatchback has plenty of room as well. Like many hatchbacks, you can lay the back seats down and put very large items in it. The headroom is incredible!

    My problems with it have related to the front spoiler (falls off with the slighted tap) and the mileage. It has not even came close to the advertised mileage. The best I get is about 25 mpg, and I drive 90-95% of my miles on the highway.
  • I too have just purchased a Spec5. I like everything but the FRONT SPOILER! It has drooped and it isn't covered under warrenty if there is one scrape on the underside. I am thinking about bolting it in. I don't want to take it off because it add so much to the car. The design of it is so bad though, it is only bolted on the underside and glued in on the top. It doesn't take much to pull the glue off. The dealer would not even re-glue it.

    The MPG have been an extreme disappointment! I haven't gotten anything better than 25mpg. I drive 90-95% of my mileage is on HIGHWAYS!

    Overall, I wouldn't buy it again! I like it, but the mileage was a big plus, but sadly, it hasn't gotten any better over 1300 miles.
  • I have heard that mileage on several of the cars in this class that have things like Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT) and adaptive logic on the AT (which tailors itself to the particular driver) take as much as 5,000 miles for the breakin period, at which point the mileage improves.

    This could be an urban legend, though. :P
  • If the mileage got better overtime, I would really be happy. Anyone here have one with over 5,000 miles?

    BTW, I bought it in Sioux Falls, SD for $15,000 after rebates. Sticker was 16,885. I also got 0% financing for 5 years. I don't think it was a bad deal. What else have people paid recently???
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,746
    The mpg on this engine does improve with time, but 25 mpg on the highway seems low--unless you are flogging it. If so, try driving moderately, staying within posted speeds, anticipating stops (keep your foot off the accelerator) whenever possible) etc. and see if it makes a difference. I get mid to upper 30s on this engine with an automatic on an Elantra on the highway, so I know much better than 25 is possible. Also check tire inflation--make sure it is at least at the recommended pressure, and try 5 psi over to see what effect it has.
  • I got 28 mpg this last round. I have driven it under optimum conditions (keeping it around 2500-2800 rpms). I hope it gets better, it seems to.
  • I have over 23,000 miles on my Spectra 5 (yes, I know that seems high) and the mileage definetely improves the more you drive. I am averaging about 33 highway and 30 city, but I do alot of combined driving in a day. The car has performed awesome and still is alot of fun to drive. Other than a few minor things that the dealer has fixed the car is perfect. This is the first Kia I have ever bought but I am already planning on trading in my wifes car for a Kia. I looked into Kia at first strictly because of the warranty but I bought because I loved the cars. I commute 5 days a week to work in the next state over from me so I needed to get a car that had a good warranty.
  • IMO the new Kia Spectra5 is one of the best looking, sporty new cars on the market. I'm on my 2nd Kia in a row and absolutely love the Kia brand of cars. That's encouraging that your gas mileage numbers are where they're at. That's acceptable to me...actually my current Kia, a 2001 Sportage 4x4 only gets 25 mpg but that is acceptable to me. It's only when my rig's mileage dips below 20mpg that I get concerned.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • I just rolled over 600 miles on my new Specta5, and the first real mileage check turned up 24 mpg. I thought that wasn’t too bad considering the newness and mostly city driving with the A/C on. I bought one with an automatic transmission since I was really impressed with how smooth it shifted. I also might be mistaken, but when I test drove a manual transmission model, the engine seemed to turn over at a little higher rpm for a given speed. Is that correct? I never really checked into this while researching the car.

    I haven’t hit anything with the front spoiler yet, but from looking it over, it really is attached in a flimsy manner. Another thing I noticed is that when I close the hatchback, it sounds like something is loose and rattling somewhere. I don’t hear anything while driving though, so maybe it’s nothing to be too concerned about. I still think the Spectra5 is far and away the sharpest looking car for the money, and unmatched in features. This is the second Kia I have owned, and I still have my ’97 Sportage 4X4. If the Spectra5 stands up as well as my Sportage has, we will all be very very happy with our decisions to purchase this car.
  • Another thing I noticed is that when I close the hatchback, it sounds like something is loose and rattling somewhere. I don’t hear anything while driving though, so maybe it’s nothing to be too concerned about.

    This could be the license plate mounting. Try taking your plate off and see if you hear the noise. My wife's Taurus does the same thing, but I never hear anything on the road.
  • it is definatly the licenceplate/frame.. i have the same issue. Remove the licence plate, affix some 1/2" rigid weatherstripping to the back and reaffix... problem solved.

    enjoy.
    Geo.
  • I also might be mistaken, but when I test drove a manual transmission model, the engine seemed to turn over at a little higher rpm for a given speed. Is that correct?

    As Ed McMahon once said: "You are correct SIR!"

    The manual's 5th gear is a lower gear than the auto's 4th, so your car's turning higher R's at the same speed. This accounts for the lower MPG rating on the manual too.

    -SM
  • Well I just checked the license plate holder, and that is indeed the culprit. You and Geo both came to a quick diagnosis of that one, and thank you both for the input.
  • the new Kia commercial selling the new Spectra5 (they show a cool red one) and Spectra SX (they show a cool blue one) on it? The Spectra5 in red looks downright righteous in that commercial! I will keep it up with the new world order Sportage on my personal futures list as I continue to fully enjoy my '01 Kia Sportage 4x4. ;)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • iluv, you're right about that red Spec5 lookin' "righteous". I've been going back and forth of late between Hyundai's Elantra GT hatch and the Kia Spec5. I so very much prefer the looks of the Kia but my gut is saying the Elantra will be more durable longterm. Figuring Elantra's in it's 5th year of the product cycle as opposed to the Spec5's second...now 3rd with the '06's showing up. Various complaints about that low spoiler being a problem have me slightly concerned...but it does LOOK cool.

    Secondly, as far as rebates are concerned, Kia offers that long list of trade-in competive model discount (Mine's a Mazda Protege' which "qualifies"). Hyundai has that loyalty thing going which drives me up a wall on principle. Not only have I never owned a Hyundai product, because of this discriminatory practice, I'm getting damn near close to not owning one in the future.

    Back to the Spec5. That red one TALKS to me. It sure does. Can't deny it. Don't give a rat about the lack of cheap leather seats (Elantra) v. "sport" cloth covered seats in the Spec5. The Kia splits out the sunroof and ABS options unlike the Elantra which comes in a package. Personally, could care less about a sunroof but very much prefer the ABS. Glad to see the '06 Spec5's have cruise standard. Way to go Kia. You HAVE a clue!

    Decisions...decisions...
  • Wow, zoomzoomitis, you sound like you're inside my head. I've decided on an Elantra hatch if I can get the one I want, but will buy the Spec5 if I can't. The Spec5 is in much better supply here locally than the Elantra.
  • both of you will not be taking any kind of step backwards if you select the Spectra5. I'd go after a red one. I happen to be in the camp of car freaks that loves red cars. I saw a 2005 Scion xA RS 1.0 in that Absolutely Red color of Toyota/Scion's and it just rocked the house. I thought about trading in the Sportage 4x4 for it for a few minutes...well, maybe more than just a few minutes.

    Also, Kia seems to have done a very good job with these new Spectra's. I haven't heard much of anything about them having recalls or TSB's. The new Sportage has a recall (not a big deal either) and possibly a TSB or two out there but I haven't heard a thing about the new world order Spectra/Spectra5 models.

    That red one is staying in my mind after that commercial-I have already mostly decided I'm gonna go with Kia for my next new car, too. It's been two in a row and I've loved 'em both, gentlemen! :)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • I may very well end up with a Spec5, but it will be anything but red. I just got rid of a red car I had for ten years and it's time for something different. I'm leaning toward blue.
  • our currrent rig, the '01 Kia Sportage, is a color Kia calls Pepper Red. It is a cinnamon-ish black red shade. We told our salesman we both liked the classic red Sportage's but he pulled the old "we would have to prepare that one for you and it's getting late" routine on us. As it went my wife and I decided we liked the Pepper Red one we were gonna go with more anyway, and we have both really enjoyed it since. I would venture to say that I'm ready for a true red shade on my next rig, though. Kind of like that little hatchback from Kia they're naming Spectra5. :D

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed


  • ILuv said:

    "Also, Kia seems to have done a very good job with these new Spectra's. I haven't heard much of anything about them having recalls or TSB's. The new Sportage has a recall (not a big deal either) and possibly a TSB or two out there but I haven't heard a thing about the new world order Spectra/Spectra5 models."


    I posted the following info today on the Spectra Sedan board after finding it while doing some research on an Optima complaint I found online. It's a fairly minor recall (IMHO) as far as the number of units affected.

    NOTE: This recall is 5 months old, and only affected a small number of units

    Spectra recall info posted on NHTSA website:

    Model and Year: KIA/SPECTRA/2005

    NHTSA Campaign Number: 05V-183

    Component affected: STEERING:LINKAGES:TIE ROD ASSEMBLY

    Number of units affected: 368

    Recall Date: 4/12/2005

    Summary:
    ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES, THE STEERING TIE RODS MAY HAVE A MANUFACTURING FLAW THAT AFFECTS THE METALLURGY.

    Consequence:
    IF THE ROD CRACKS OR FAILS, LOSS OF VEHICLE STEERING CONTROL MAY OCCUR WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH

    Notes:
    OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED BY TELEPHONE ON APRIL 8, 2005. AN ADDITIONAL LETTER IS BEING SENT TO OWNERS WHO HAVE NOT TAKEN THEIR VEHICLES IN FOR REPAIR. THIS LETTER IS EXPECTED TO BE MAILED DURING MAY 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT KIA AT 1-800-333-4542.

    KIA RECALL NO. SC-047. CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S AUTO SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236.

    DATES OF MANUFACTURE: 02/22/2005 thru 03/28/2005

    No injuries or litigation were reported as of May 2005 due to this defect.

    The defect was found during a routine final vehicle inspection at the Hwasang manufacturing plant on March 23, 2005.

    A total of 5,072 vehicles had suspect tie-rods. Only 368 were delivered to dealers and/or customers. 4,704 units were caught and corrected before being sent out to the dealers.

    So..... if your car was built during the 2/22/05-3/28/2005 period, you may want to stop by your dealership to see if they can 100% verify that your vehicle was corrected.

    -SM
  • is there a seachable database where we can compare our VIN to manufacturer date?

    thanks
    Geo
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