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But 0-60 mph of the 7-passenger version they tested was a sluggish 9.7 seconds. Motorweek often gets fast times out of the vehicles they test, so very disappointing.
PEOPLE this is not a deal killer!
Like you said, it's up to the invidividual purchaser. Even in your spirited response, you used terms like "acceptable" and "good enough." That will indeed be "fine" for a lot of buyers, but not for some buyers comparing it against the competition.
I'm sure that a Tribeca XT will rectify this in a future model year.
I've had sluggish cars and I've had two different turbo-charged cars. The Tribeca isn't a turbo by any means, but it is closer to the turbo than it is to the sluggish end. In the many times I had to merge into traffic that was moving at 70-80 mph on my trip, I was always able to match their speed within the length of the on-ramp, with plenty in reserve.
How you feel about it probably depends on what you are used to, so everyone will have their own perspective. My perspective is that the car has plenty of power and good acceleration, and that's backed up by some real-world driving experience.
Photoguy2 - that's a good thought about keeping some change in the top section of the center console. I have the remote for the DVD player in there now along with a spare pair of reading glasses. I'll have to pop some quarters in there and see how noisy it gets when I open both lids to access the bottom section. Maybe I'll put them in a small envelope to keep them from rattling around too much.
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Enjoy!
-Karen in AZ-
As you may or may not know Saab announced a go ahead for thier new 9-6 which will be based on the B9 Tribeca. It will be interesting to see if they put thier turbo technology into it. It is my understanding the Saab and Subaru shared some amount of co-design for the Tribeca as it is. This would seem likely especially now that we know that the 9-6 will essentially share the platform.
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Saab to produce a significantly better Tribeca. Their two ports of other vehicles to date are rather lame. Basically they graft on a new nose and fiiddle with the interior a bit, throw in a longer warranty and some level of free scheduled maintenance, and up the sticker. They didn't even add Saab safety features. E.g. they didn't put side curtain airbags in the 9-2X when all other Saabs have them. The 9-7X was just crash-tested and it does as poorly as the GM SUV it's based on!
Fortunately, the Tribeca should do just fine in crash tests, so even if Saab doesn't improve the safety, it's fine.
If anyone has done this and could give me some information it would be appreciated.
Thanks
Shane
They stripped and Chrome Plated them.
They send you the Chromed wheels and you mount your tires and return the painted ones to them.
I will definitely do it - especially if the price is as quoted at $600.00
I will post the info when received.
If you find 20" wheels what size tire would they take? I would think the tire would have to be a very low profile and wouldn't that make for a much harsher ride and limit the ability to handle rough roads and pot holes?
To my pleaseant surprise it also has dual beige pin stripe! I prob wouldn't have paid extra for it but the fact that it has it was a nice bonus and makes the sides less plain looking especially on the white. Speaking of which the satin white pearl is a great color and what seems like all the colors offered for the B9 it is metallic which really adds the affect and makes even the white appear different in different lighting. My dad liked the satin white pearls metallic color better then his plain gloss white BMW 5 series believe it or not so kudos to Sub on the ext. colors.
I will try to get some pictures of the puddle lights as someone requested. I imagine they are the same on everyones but for some reason on mine they seemed wider but less deep then i remember them and also you can actually see them from the side sometimes where as before you used to have to bend down to see them. They don't show up during the day much as they are some type of bluish white led bulbs or something but at night they really are a cool effect and when we came out of the movies and hit unlock ppl who were walking by in parking lot already looking at beca and wondering what type of car it was were like whoaaa when the puddle lights came on.
Speaking of getting looks which is always fun wiht a new model ppl haven't seen I'm thinking of taking off the subaru lettering to add to the mystery more. You'd be surprised not only how many ppl just dont know about the B9 yet but also how many don't know the 5-6 star Subaru symbol which btw when you look close is a cool carbon fibre blue. So i would leave the sub symbols on front and back and just take off the Subaru lettering.
Anyone know the best way to get the silvering Subaru lettering off? I think I have read how before as it is the same for all cars.
Have to go take her for a spin and my woman is calling for me so... but real quick the DVD player is great but i think its over precautious that you have to put parking brake on to watch on NAV screen, park would be sufficient but its worth a really cool feature. Portable mp3 player to the rear audio inputs is the best and overall everything is just great.
Just to not sound like a biased owner I will say reinforce what others have said that the cargo cover is a real disappointment and annoying getting on and off, but if you leave it either on or off then its not so bad. The only excuse i can think for them is that with the 3rd row they couldn't make a more permanent one but still the 5 passenger version should have got a better one since it doesnt' have that problem but then 7 passenger ppl like myself who really only got it for the NAV would be pissed.
more later...
Dental floss is pretty effective getting badges off -- just slide it under the lettering and saw/pull to cut through the adhesive. Follow up with something safe to get the residue off -- I prefer WD-40 myself, and/or rubbing alcohol. Even a good cleaner wax will do. Rub/blot gently with a soft cloth so as to not leave swirls/scratches.
Regarding the line in for iPod -- if the B9 is like the 05 Legacy/Outback, the stereo, CD changer, and HVAC controls are integrated into one big unit. There is an internal connection between the CD changer and stereo (a ribbon cable). You can hack into the radio to intercept this connection, and use it for aux-in purposes. But it requires a lot of practical experience with electronics, soldering, etc...
Given that the upgraded stereo system (ie, 9-speaker) in the B9 is required for DVD/NAV/AUX, I would expect those systems to have an additional connecter on the back of the radio for additional inputs. What we need is for someone to do some exploratory studies on their B9 to see what's up. From there, we would require a way to get the radio to recognize/trigger these additional inputs for vehicles without the DVD/NAV/AUX. Usually it's a fairly simple hack.
For those of you with the DVD that are running wires to the rear aux inputs, keep in mind that another option is to meet up with the aux harness at the back of the radio, which may or may not be easier.
Within a few months of the 05 Legacy/Outback debut, people on other enthusiast websites had figured how to hack into the radio. I imagine it will only be a matter of time before similar info is available for the B9.
Craig
that divided tray ... quite possibly it's divided to keep things 'organized' .. not everyone wants to carry LARGE items .. maybe you want to hide a laptop computer .. or a digital camera ... or some other item so that it's not in FULL VIEW, but if you leave it there while driving it's not banging all over in a huge compartment! ...
ok .. back to reading from a month ago ...
Steve in NH
While you are parked or driving... just press the map and a POI button appears. Press the POI button and make your selection. You scale must be 1/2 miles or less to display POI info. press a POI icon and get name, address and phone number. It works fine.
Steve
Thanks a lot.
That was so easy I feel silly for asking the question.
Thanks
John
My last 4 really expensive cars only had only the top 2 holes. So every time you slam the trunk down you get that clanking sound.
Looks like SOA thinks about h\the little details also.
Thanks SOA
Steve
This car grows on me more each day. Very happy with my purchase. If you don't have one, you should go right out and get one. Tell them Steve sent you!
As for the size of tires on the 20" wheels, they would be 255/45/20 and are the same diameter as the stock 18" wheels and tires. You can not really go any wider as there would be a good chance that the tires would rub on the fenders. If you look at the clearance between the tire and fender on the outside, it is minimal. Feeling to the inside it seems minimal as well.
Shane
This is a great car. Quiet ride, plenty of real world power and here in NY, the B9 has gotten nothing but compliments on it's design. I think people are pretty happy to see ANY car that doesn't look like everything else. As to the interior, no other SUV can match the B9, it's really well done. We looked at the Acura MDX, Nissan Murano and all the rest. This is truly a great car, especially if it's quality is true to the Subaru name.
Robert B
NY
1) Improve rear visibility
2) Make wheel telescoping
3) Improve rear seat legroom across the board
4) Fix that silly cargo cover..are they kidding with that?
5) Make wheel radio controls defeatable. They are too easy to hit while turning.
6) Make stereo system more friendly to additions such as Sat. Radio and Ipods.
7) Automatic lift gate please!
8) Improve readout quality on LCD display on dash.
9) Armrest should slide back/front.
10) 2X seat memory please.
11) Better 12V placement for radar detector please.
But seriously...we love our new B9 and will wait patiently for the 2008 model!
Robert B
NY
TireRack also has a good selection of wheels that fit Subarus. Even if they have not specifically "test fit" the Tribeca yet, other wheels with the correct offset should fit as long as the bolt pattern is the same. Most Subarus are 5x100, but recent years of the STi are 5x114.
In lieu of a prior test fit, don't deviate far from the stock width and outer diameter to be on the safe side -- things to check are the clearance between the inside edge of the stock wheel/tire combo and the struts/suspension links).
Craig
Now go get yourself out to a dealer and take a B9 for a drive! You'll like it even better when you do! My wife thinks I clean mine much to much! I keep a Microfiber towel in the car at all times!
I'd LOVE to be in the market for a Tribeca, but with a daughter still in college and two stepsons close behind ...
my 'best chance' is when daughter graduates next spring .. if she can get a job and buy my 2001 outback .. THEN I'll get serious about the next soobie
I'm impressed. Consider yourself entitled to a B9!
tidester, host
-Karen in AZ-
Speaking of which I do have a few just to get out of the way that may have already been mentioned. While at first I tried to defend no auto up window as not a big deal it is a feature I had on my 2001 Pathfinder and therefore something I noticed in recent use that I actually did miss. I don't quite understand how you have auto down but not auto up as I can't imagine it costing anymore if auto down is in place? Where as some of these features ppl complain are missing in comparing to especially the Murano would have added to cost and you have to remember the things it does have that others don't and the fact that it is less money comparably equipped.
Now again for me coming from non electronic adjustable cloth seats I don't miss what I didn't have like memory seats but I did have time and temperature always readable and that seems to be a problem in the B9. You only see temp when in info so not when in the nav map or anything and I think my time is in 24 hr time (hopefully can be changed?) and also i believe only while in info or similar modes. This is a bit worrisome as i'm always keeping my eye on both and dont want to have to switch anything to see. Someone mentioned before they should have put temp in the auto dimming/compass mirror option and I agree and add that both time and temp should be always viewable in some other location then nav screen where again it is not displayed when in certain modes.
Speaking of the Murano, I feel it seems to end up being the main "arch rival" to the Tribeca as they are most similar in styling, price and features. I find myself battling again Muranos on the road and parking next to them in parking lot, heh. I even parked side by side with a white one same color as my B9 as the ppl in that were getting out and loved it when i hit lock and it showed the side mirror blinker and puddle lights as they are 2 cool features readily distinguishable on the exterior that the Murano doesn't have. But this worries me that part of why I am competing with Murano so hard is that it is somewhat of a worthy competitor. I am/was somewhat of a Nissan/Infiniti loyalist and do like the 350 Z like tail lights of the Murano and the white lights on either side of the license plate (though lame Honda Pilot has those too). Overall I think I like the back end of the B9 better though somehow and it just looks a little more substantial or tougher or something. I love the B9 from behind as the rear wheel wells almost stick out a little (not unlike some porsche). Sometimes I hear the back end compared to the high up minivan looks of the Buick Rendevous and Chrysler Pacifica but I think it is much better then those as I dont care for those at all and again I personally like it even better then the Murano plus remember the Lexus RX has the high up tail lights on the new models and it makes the older RX with the lower down tail lights look bad now. Another example of styling growing on you which is the true test.
A lot of these designs ppl reject at first all because they are not used to them but then later end up loving. Specifically the front end/grill of the B9, funny how many early opinion even on online forums was that it was so ugly and all this other stuff. Everyone that has seen my B9 in person loves the front end and thinks it looks great and I myself also don't even see it as being that extreme or "controversial" as it was called and actually think it is quite pleasing now. I will say Next to the Murano there was something about the flat hood shape and headlights of the Murano looked a little i'm not sure solid or even had a heigher height (it was on higher ground though in the lot). Overall though I think the sloped in the middle hood and headlight placement is different and cool and just needs getting used to as it is just a little sports car-ish like but then so is porsche cayennes hood & headlights. And, Muranos front grill straight across is kind of boring and minivan-ish or something.
Its interesting how in some ways the B9 blends right in as some ppl don't even take a second look assuming it is one of the other ones they've seen. But you notice that the drivers of those similar SUV's do make second takes at it, stare and try to figure out what it is and try to read a brand. Even more reason I want to take off the small Subaru lettering, not that I am not proud of Subaru as i think they are a great make but just to leave some mystery because surprisingly as i think i mentioned before many don't know the Subaru wordless badge/symbol of stars by just that alone.
Speaking of Subie, I hope if they do come out with an STi, XT, or other higher performance even Turbo B9, in some ways that it is long enough from now that will make sense for all of us early adapters of Tribecas that took the risk on a new model to trade in for the higher performance model. Because if its like next year then that wont make sense to trade in for it whether your stuck in a lease or bought outright and would therefore suck if you really wanted to upgrade but just bought the old/regular version B9. Also, I imagine at least some of these other minor complaints and issues as you see in any new model (and even ones that are not new and supposed to be perfected) might be addressed. Again that is a good thing but will just suck for us early adapters unless they are things they can somehow add/fix on existing models but i doubt that will be possible or happen on many of these even minor issues because I don't know/haven't heard of that happening very often in the past.
To end this diatribe on a good note, The truth and bottom line is that I love my B9 and that it is an improvement in almost every way over my last SUV. It really depends what you are coming from into a B9 and what you are comparing it to while remembering price differences, but regardless it is a great car overall. I think what will really reassure myself and some others is seeing Consumer Reports not only recommend the Tribeca but rate it above the Murano and right with the Highlander, Pilot and RX at which point I will know for sure I did the right thing. Going by Subies track record and the car(s) the B9 is loosely based on, the odds are in its favor for being recommended and getting a good overall rating.
In the meantime the risk of being an early adopter has been well worth the fun.
Randy
Randy
The time display can be changed from 12 to 24 hours (in the setup I believe) and is always visible in the top left corner of the map. did post earlier, the outside temp should be visible to the driver at all times, either in the mirror or in the dash... safety.
Nice write-up. I suggest that you do not put much credibility in the CR write-up. You clearly love your B9, as do I. Subaru has been making quality products for a long time. Don't worry about the magazine article and go for a drive!
Steve
Greg
Greg
Karen
Anyone else noticed the stares?
-Karen in AZ-
For any of you that didn’t get or can’t get some accessory items, they are available on line for less than the dealer prices and are easy to install. I am just glad I was able to find a B9 with the puddle lights as they are not a dealer add on. My wife and I just think they are the coolest looking things!!
We headed out Sunday afternoon for a short one night getaway down to Frederick, Md and we are VERY pleased with our new Tribeca. We now have a little over 500 miles on it and have no major complaints. The terrain in WV and western Md is very hilly and that does take a toll on gas mileage in any vehicle but we still managed to average almost 21 mpg with a fair amount of stop and go driving included with the highway miles
The B9 is very comfortable and it rides great. It is a very quiet vehicle and it handles very well.
Concerning the gas gauge and low fuel light, the low fuel light came on when the info panel showed 50 miles to “out of gas”. I continued on hoping to make it back to town and the gas gauge finally showed “no bars” at 20 miles to go till empty, so, not wanting to run out of gas on my first outing, I filled up and it only took 15 gallons to the brim, so there was another 1.8 gallons still in the tank. At least I won’t panic the next time the gas gauges shows “zero”.
For what it’s worth we just came out of a 2000 Outback and a 99 Dodge Intrepid (nice road car) – sold them both to get the Tribeca. Just keeping the Ford Ranger truck and the Tribeca now that there is just the 2 of us at home.
Don't sweat the Motorweek 0-60, they were way off from the best times for the Forester XT when it came out also (6.2 vs. 5.3 for C&D). Even Subaru's own conservative time was quicker (same with the Tribeca).
9.7s sounds way off for anyone who has driven one.
-juice
I am anxious to see how the car handles on a long jaunt. I can't wait to play with the Nav. It did pinpoint their property about a half mile closer than MapQuest or Yahoo Maps. Unfortunately, there aren't many Starbucks showing up that-a-way :-)
I am planning on driving through Yellowstone on the way back. Think mine will be the first Tribeca in that National Park?
I haven't been as far north as SLC, but have seen eastern Utah and eastern Wyoming. Any car or geographical travel tips for traveling I-15 from our readship?
-Karen in AZ-
Tidester's close to Yellowstone, so if you get stuck give him a yell.
Steve, Host
You'll definitely want to exit via the "South Entrance" and head toward Grand Teton National Park. At the very least you'll want to drive through it . I recommend "The Bunnery" in Jackson for breakfast! If you have the time and the inclination there are some fantastic trails for hiking and the lift to the the top of Rendezvous Mountain provides an utterly fantastic view.
Unfortunately, I don't think yours will be the first Tribeca to pass through these parts but at least you can say you were one of the first. Let us know how it performs on the mountain passes!
tidester, host