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If it was enough of an inheritance that I could afford to comfortably retire and never worry about money again, than I wouldn't hesitate to put a good resto on the DeSoto (right now it's mainly in the shop for mechanical stuff, but I don't want to mess with its 56 year old paint just yet), the Catalina, or the LeMans. Now, I might think twice about my two New Yorkers. I think one of them would stand a good chance of ending up with a Mopar Performance crate engine, though! :shades:
Still, with a 4-speed, and in a car that wasn't especially heavy for the time, it must have been a fun ride!
In 1977, Pontiac offered two versions of the 400. There was a 180 hp version that was used in the mid- and full-sized cars, and a 200 hp version that was used in the Firebird/Trans Am and the "1977.5" Can Am. Or, if you were in CA or a high-altitude area, they'd substitute in a 185 hp Olds 403.
I was nervous when I took it for inspection, because I wasn't sure I had them in the right places, but the guy at the DMV had the same diagram I used, stared at the spaghetti pile of hoses for about 30 seconds, and said "looks good."
It was a fun car, though, good torque and would do a good smoky doughnut in a parking lot. (I bought it when I was 18 or 19.)
Most interesting thing in the lot by far:
I have serious old car withdrawl. I want an older barge, but I shouldn't right now.
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You should buy that 61 Caddy!
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
Well, he said that he has $121,000 into it. I'm tentatively giving him the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't expect all of that back. But I bet he's not expecting to lose $100K, which as you indicated is about what he will have to accept if he sells it. I foresee him owning that car for a l-o-o-o-ong time.
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/volvo/1800e/1498898.html
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
Doesn't say anything about the rest of us! :P
Hmmm, this makes me wonder if the ad is a teaser, and he wants people to say "I've got to see that Volvo", go onto his site, and thereby see (and hopefully buy) another car shown there.
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
No. Just to clarify, it was the same 200 hp engine that could be had in the full size and station wagon lines.
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I have a good friend who's crazy about that light jade green, and also crazy about Ford products, so I sent that link to him.
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77 is probably the best year for these barge Lincolns. You get the newer style grille with old style dash.
I have the old car bug bad right now. It needs to stop. The wife doesn't "forbid" it either. I think if I make any moves the S10 needs to go and I need to trade out of the LaCrosse for an SUV for the wife. The SUV would serve as the light hauler the S10 is, plus she really doesn't like the LaCrosse anyway.
The 04 Grand Marquis has been doing fine as a DD and believe this or not doesn't get that much worse FE than the Buick.
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Yeah, you'd have too many cars - an old car and a daily driver is more than enough unless you have a lot of parking. I am in that position too, and it is annoying - finding dry parking for both cars. My unit has one garage space, and I don't want either car to sleep outside.
Before I end up in a classic I will need to line up storage. My Aunt has a detached garage with virtually nothing in it and my brother's MIL has a two car garage with nothing but junk in it. I'm sure with a small fee per month she would clean up a little and let me park there. Actually I can't figure why she doesn't park her brand new car in there, but that seems common.
Under 5k is the number for sure. Like I've said plenty of times I want a decent looking reliable driver. The good thing is the cars I like are relatively cheap.
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In our neighborhood, there aren't any basements in the homes so many people use the garage for their excess stuff and the cars are in the driveway.
We've always managed to keep two cars in the garage at all time, with the 3rd car parked on the street in front of the house.
Anyway, of the other seven...
1 had a pop-up trailer in it
1 had a Chevy Cavalier in it that the guy was storing
4 were used for storage
1 (mine) was used for storage of a non-daily driver. I'd alternate between the Catalina and the DeSoto.
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For the fintail, I rent a garage space from a guy I know, and have parked it there for about 8 years. But - he wants out of the house, and has it listed now. He contacted me about 10 days ago and claimed he had an interested party, but hasn't talked to me since (I bet the inspection turned up surprises, and his asking price is optimistic). Still, I need to find other parking, and it isn't fun - as I pay a low rate, and am comfortable where I am, and it is a general pain around here finding someone willing to rent out a spot, as, like you mention, a lot of people waste garage space with useless junk. Space they could either protect their car with, or maybe even make a profit from. Every time it snows here, I like seeing newer 50K+ cars that show they aren't garaged. I couldn't do that.
It is nice having cheapish tastes. I almost don't want something too nice anyway - can't enjoy it as much.
That's for sure, fin. I collected what I have from a practicality standpoint, but once I have it, I have to maintain it. Then after a decade or so, I get attached to it and then keep it out of a sense of commitment, even though there's really no reason to have it any longer.
Right now, I maintain five (of my six) vehicles in drivable condition. My plow truck is questionably drivable on a road, but I do maintain it for its purpose (plowing!). They suck time and money, both of which seem to be in diminishing supply every year. :sick:
That's pretty much where I am. Attachment over logic. To break the cycle, maybe I should just lease the daily driver, so I can tell myself it isn't mine for good. But then I might try to buy at the end of the lease.
I also don't like to think what would happen once the cars are sold - my maintenance isn't perfect, but I fear someone would neglect them, especially the old car.
The F250 is only kept because it is immensely useful as a plow. It's so far gone, though, due to rust, that once it retires from that service, it's a goner. The interior is mint, though, so it's not a total loss. All older pickups have a following, so I'm sure the interior could find a good home with very little effort.
I think the C20 was the best vehicular purchase I've ever made. I paid $500 for it, have put maybe $2,000 into it over the last fifteen years (including tires when I first got it back on the road), and could sell it tomorrow for $5K. I guess if I factor in the depreciation of the dollar, I'm at least breaking even. Another $10K into it and I could have it as it came from the factory.
Since I have the space, I have no reasonable justification to offload them even if they do get maybe a thousand miles (combined) per year.
I justify keeping the fintail by my lack of other expensive vices (I am not a big drinker or gambler etc) - and that it gives me enjoyment. I have also had it since I was a teenager, drove it through college etc, so there is a little sentimental attachment. But if I faced a cross country move or something, there's a chance I might just move on. Sometimes I feel silly keeping a second car when I have no friends or co-workers with the same ball and chain.
I understand the sentiment, but keep in mind it's OK to neglect a car. It's just a thing. It doesn't have feelings, it won't miss you, and it sure as heck does not have a soul, no matter what "enthusiasts" like to think about their cars.
You know the old saw: "Never love anything that can't love you back."
Cheers -Mathias
Yeah, but some of your friends and co-workers might have balls and chains of a different variety! The ball and chain I divorced back in 1996 cost me more than any one of my cars ever did!
I justify keeping the fintail by my lack of other expensive vices (I am not a big drinker or gambler etc) - and that it gives me enjoyment.
I think this is the most important thing. It gives you enjoyment. And that's hard to put a price on.
I asked a neighbor once, who both he and the wife had less than 2 yr old cars with a total value of ~50k, why not clear the garage and park inside.
The answer I got was 'you don't have kids, you don't understand'.
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The answer I got was 'you don't have kids, you don't understand'.
Seems like most families are just a box or two away from appearing on an episode of "Hoarders".
When we moved into our house (1600sf, 3bd, 2.5ba, slab), the kids were 14 and 12. We made everything fit and were still able to park our cars (Expedition, New Beetle) in the garage.
Having a place to keep our cars out of the weather was one of the reasons we bought the house.
On our block, I know of only a couple of houses where the garage holds two cars - Jeep Grand Cherokee and a Miata in one, Nissan Xterra and Chevy S10 in the other.
I have 2 boys. The bikes/trikes/scooters hang from hooks on the walls out of the way, and the battery operated jeep sits out on the back patio under a cover. It helps tremendously that I have a very large shed out back, but that has nothing to do with the kids. That holds the lawn furniture, lawn tools, and tractor.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
When I say neglect, I more mean destroy the effort put into the car by simply keeping it together and roadworthy. The right/wrong person could undo that pretty quickly. It's a shame to see something that survived for 50 years being ruined by an idiot.
The car might not have a soul, but it has a temper sometimes :shades:
Pleasure is often worth more than the price paid, especially if the price is relatively low.
About the full garages, many people overestimate the value of their flea market at best quality clutter.
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