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Toyota Supra

SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
edited March 14 in Toyota
Toyota will eschew all likeness to the Volta concept in the design of its next "super car."
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2007/toyota/supra/100486034/preview- .html
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  • klmjklmj Posts: 1
    Is this replacing the the MR2 OR the Celica?
    Will it be available in Canada?
  • probably neither...
    I´m guessing it´s gonna compete against a Mazda RX-8 and a Nissan 350Z...
    if so, that would make it more expensive than an old Celica

    I sure hope that they DO come to Canada!
  • xgc75xgc75 Posts: 1
    Any of this look familiar? Remember the days 10 years back when the Rx7, 240Zx, Supra and 3000GT stood tall? With the renewal of the 350Z, Rx8 (and I hear rumors of a ~$40k Rx7 coming), and now the Supra, things are looking up. I hope Mitsubishi can pull itself together and revive the 3000GT, then I'll be in heaven.
  • It WILL be the genisis of Supra, as the PLATFORM should produce the next Supra as it's offspring. That is the Lexus "exotic concept" testing.

     

       I expect a 290+ HP tuned 3.5L V6 (pulled from the '06 Avalon), hopefully about 200ils lighter than the 350z, and much better looking.

     

       

       DrFill
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    Where you been? Mitsubishi is selling Evo's ranging from $26k - $34k right now that has more performance than the 3000GT ever had (0-60, 1/4, braking, AWD)...

     

    As for the Supra pic above, I've been seeing that pic for months now...
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    Where you been? Mitsubishi is selling Evo's ranging from $26k - $34k right now that has more performance than the 3000GT ever had (0-60, 1/4, braking, AWD)...

     

    As for the Supra pic above, I've been seeing that pic for months now...
  • The new Supra should perform like the old Supra and I think that there are lots of people that remember it having a V-8. I am curious to see what the design of the car will look like because it has alot of stiff competition. I think that the car won't do well if it aims to just be a 350Z competitor. The 90's Supra was Toyota's Corvette. That is what I think that it should be.

    They should offer the 3.5 V6 but also a V8 and a Supercharged V8 with a design that makes people forget about the 350Z or the Mustang or the Corvette. Toyota has the potential to take them all on if it wants to.

     

    There was one design that looked like the 2000GT in the front from the 70's and the Supra of the 90's in the back. I think it is on the autospies website.
  • *tears* I loved the days when Mitsu had the 3000GT and Toyota had the Supra. The Supra was like Corvette was to Chevy, and I cursed Toyota when they dropped it. But now.... boy that car looks nice. They should have the 3.5L taken from the Avalon, tuned to around 300hp, and sell it for around 30k.... Mustang killer, eh? Then they should have a high-performance V-10 hybrid (Viper killer).

     

    Also, the Evo is no replacement for the 3000GT. The Evo is a dressed up Lancer, and most older folk would feel very silly in one. The 300GT looked like a real sports car, and the Evo looks a little too square. Don't get me wrong, the Evo is great, but the 300GT was just as great, in a different way. Also, the Evo has four real doors.

     

    Ah, I love Supras.
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    "3.5L taken from the Avalon, tuned to around 300hp, and sell it for around 30k.... Mustang killer, eh?"

     

    Nope. Not unless they price it for like $25k
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    isn't it high time for an 8-cyl Supra? :-0

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • At least it wouldn't look like a fossil from the 50's.

     

       DrFill
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • True.... I think I'm the only person in the world who thinks that the new Mustang looks terrible....

     

    Regardless of price, people would buy the Supra. I mean, people bought the last gen 'stang. And Celica.... which was.... err....

     

    Also, a Toyota is a Toyota, so which would you feel more comfortable in? If they could get 300 out of a V-6, imagine what they could do with a hybrid V-8 if they extended themselves!!

     

    ---Chris
  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Posts: 1,986
    Supra had a fairly short run as a bona fide lust-after car. By the time it was reaching for the top rung it was overpriced and overweight. A comparable product today would fit into the Lexus marketing pyramid, not the Toyota pyramid.

     

    While the Mustang as a proposed pricing object may not appeal to everyone (I like it, but I think it's bigger than it needs to be), it's right on target for its segment. Could be Ford's only homer this year, especially considering how the 500 turned out (blecch)!
  • Yep. The 500 was a flop. I'm not holding out for a great Fusion, the Focus needs an upgrade, the Freestar.... blcuk. Ford's Mustang seems the only silver lining, but that's not really the point.

     

    Since Toyota has cut all of its two door sporty models (OK, Solara) it needs at least one new one. It isn't for sales as much as it is for sales of other cars. It's the whole halo car mentality, and its worked for many other car makers. Drag people in to see a Supra, and they come out with a Camry. Trust me, it would work with me and my wife.... and we wouldn't end up with the Supra. Besides, we all know that Toyota doesn't have to overprice their cars. Look at the Scion tC.
  • Just maybe, that's why the Camry rose to promenance?

       

       People in to ogle the Supra (1993-1998), and were sold the Camry while they were there?

     

       1992-1995 is when Camry surged up the sales charts.

     

       An excellent model, covered by an unbeatable Halo!

     

       DrFill
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    Solara? Sporty? Wow, that would not be my idea of sport.

     

    It's a tough market for Supra to enter these days. You can't develop a car like that SOLELY to be a halo car.

     

    You've got Mustang (crude handling, very heavy for a sport coupe, but a heck of a V-8), Eclipse (ditto except no V-8), 350Z (superb in many ways but a little heavy and large-feeling for a sport coupe) and RX-8 (small, lithe, loves to rev but little torque/power off the line).

     

    Where does a hypothetical Supra fit in amongst that crew?On the high end, you are also bracketed by CrossFire and Corvette, and let's not forget the unloved GTO - what does that car's doomed existence tell Toyota?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • One, it's too late to the party. By 2008 this sports car kick will be over. And that's the earliest we'd see one.

     

       Two, they WILL make this Lexus Supercar, and WON'T dumb down that car to make a $30k Johnny come lately!

     

      DrFill
  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Posts: 1,986
    "...let's not forget the unloved GTO - what does that car's doomed existence tell Toyota?"

     

    That GM can have 7/8ths of the equation right and still screw up mightily on the last 0.125?

    ;-)

     

    Agreed, I think, all the way around.

     

    Frankly, if they do come out with an IS300 coupe this go 'round, it would be closest to the real Supra we knew (assuming there's a true performance package and a bumped up plant) of old. I'd peg that at about 40 grand maybe.

     

    For a Supra on more Toyota terms (something the every-man can aspire to), I think I'd be looking at Scion for the future.

     

    Just a guess.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    wait, why would an IS300 coupe come in at $40K if the sedan is going to start around $30K?

     

    I'd go for an IS coupe.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Posts: 1,986
    No no, dear boy, that would be for a plus-rated engine and a real performance package on top of a mid-level IS coupe! That would make it something like the later, lustable Supras.

     

    I don't think the IS line will top out at at $30K territory by any stretch. That'll be just the OPP, I'm betting...
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    ah, now you have my wishful thinking imagining an IS430 coupe, with all the suspension and tire trimmings. That would easily be worth $40K and more. :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Posts: 1,986
    Yeah, kinda tasty, ain't it. :-)

    Won't happen though; at least not with the eight. Can't have a two-door at $40K+ that would put to shame the ultra-blah SC at $65K!

    I could see it with a six and a breather (down the road), perhaps. Still pretty tasty I think.
  • Hmm... I like. I really want a supercharged SC.... oh well. I just really like the Supra a bunch.
  • I totally agree with the idea of making a new Supra with an even bigger faster engine, I mean whats their racing car now...The Celica? I wish they would have dropped it instead. It looks just like everything else now, they should have changed the Celica its boring now. The Supra was different much different and it had evolved so much. I am also curious to see what it will look like they should defiantly keep the tail and head lights from around 93 until they discontinued though. Thats a big part of what sets the Supra apart from everything else!
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    "Can't have a two-door at $40K+ that would put to shame the ultra-blah SC at $65K!"

    Not sure I totally agree here. Sell the IS430 coupe without the option of a targe roof or a convertible or anything like that, and what it will be is a pure-focus sports car. The SC, OTOH, is a style cruiser. It makes a statement, which is "I am an older, affluent person who loves to cruise around town in style, and catch some rays". The SC is NOT a sporting car, despite being fast in straight-line acceleration. It is mostly a statement car, a prestige-mobile, and a very comfy one at that.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • if they took the same 280hp motor out of the avalon (packing dual vvt-i, with dohc/4 valves per cylinder---(24v) trimmed it out on a light weight chasse with a more "aerodynamic" design, they would have a player. the weak "z" car and the maxima cannot even compare with toyota ingenuity and design.
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    The Supra was (IMO) a very good car, and I think that Toyota can easily outclass 350Z, RX8, Crossfire, and even regular Corvette with this new thing. Hooray for halo cars.
  • boomn29boomn29 Posts: 189
    Celica is now discontinued...
  • 84supra84supra Posts: 1
    I'm building a 85 toyota supra and i am trying to find out if the 86-91 7MGTE 3.0 motor will fit where the smaller 5MGE 2.8 they are both inline 6 i need to know if the 3.0 will bolt right up
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