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"The supplier price less all discounts and rebates and a $580.00 discount for demo use, price includes all taxes and state fees. $ 37,463.00"
My Question ?
Did the DVD player come with the wireless headphones and remote ? They were not in the vehicle at delivery.
What dealership did you work with in Atlanta? Did you have a trade in? Thanks.
New - only 15 miles
White/Tan Leather
MSRP 48650
Traded 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5, 2WD, Spec Edtn 36500 miles
GM Card dollars 3300
Greensboro, NC
3 year/ 45000 mile maintainence - cost $570
OTD including Tax, Tags, Doc Fee - $13500
Great Dealership
Wife Liked the 2006 looks better than 2007. Better deal.
http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:XWaOCoHqNiEJ:www.gmtechlink.com/images/issu- es/jan05/TLjan05e.html++site:www.gmtechlink.com+gm+techlink+headphones&hl=en&gl=- us&ct=clnk&cd=2
Wireless Headphones and Remote Controls
Because the wireless headphones and remote controls for GM DVD RSE (Rear Seat Entertainment) and RSA (Rear Seat Audio) systems are loose items, it’s possible for them to become separated from the vehicle they’re intended for, before the vehicle is delivered to the customer. In many cases, these items are not interchangeable among vehicles. If the wrong components are provided to the customer, dissatisfaction will result.
For example, a Chevrolet dealership will have three different remote controls and they are not compatible (Malibu Maxx, TrailBlazer, and Uplander). However, the headphones are compatible with all GM DVD systems except the minivans, which require a 2-channel wireless headphone. If the 2-channel headphones are used in the wrong vehicle, channel 2 (RSA) will not be audible, but channel 1 (DVD) will be audible.
To help keep these components straight, here’s some information about the systems in use.
System 1a -- DVD RSE
The following headphone kit (p/n 15140532) is released for the 2005-07 Malibu Maxx only (fig. 1). The remote control will not work with any other GM vehicles.
15140532 (Visteon) Headphone Package (DVD RSE)
part number quantity item
15762534 2 Headphone Assembly
(1 Channel Wireless )
22698894 1 Control Assembly - Video Player Remote
15073730 1 Pack Battery Package - Headphone
4 - AAA
15072561 1 Pack Battery Package - Video T/Player Remote Control
2 - AA
22727857 1 Instruction - Video Disc Player Operation
15140533 1 Instruction - Video Disc Player
System 1b -- RSA without DVD RSE
TIP: The Malibu Maxx is the only current GM vehicle that offers an RSA system with wireless headphones. The other GM vehicles have RSA systems which use wired headphones (which are not provided to the customer).
The following headphone kit (p/n 10396845) is released for the 2005-07 Malibu Maxx with RSA option (UK6)..
10396845 (Visteon) Headphone Package (DVD RSA)
part number quantity item
15762534 2 Headphone Assembly
(1 Channel Wireless )
15073730 1 Pack Battery Package - Headphone
4 - AAA
System 2 -- DVD RSE
The following headphone kit (p/n 15072230) (fig. 2) is released for the 2005-06:
- Buick Rendezvous and Rainer
- Cadillac Escalade, EXT, ESV, SRX
- Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado Crew Cab, Suburban, Tahoe, TrailBlazer
- GMC Envoy, Sierra Crew Cab, Yukon, Denali, XL, XL Denali
- Pontiac Aztek
- Saturn Vue
TIP: The remote control will work only in these GM Vehicles.
15072230 (Panasonic) Headphone Package (DVD RSE)
part number quantity item
01999421 2 Headphone Assembly
(1 Channel Wireless)
01999355 1 Control Assembly - Video Player Remote
15085989 1 Pack Battery package - Headphone
4 - AAA
15085988 1 Pack Battery Package -Video T/Player Remote Control
2 - AA
System 3 -- DVD RSE
The following two kits (p/n 15136091 and 15136092) are released for the 2005-07:
- Buick Terraza
- Chevrolet Uplander
- Pontiac Montana SV6
- Saturn Relay
TIP: The remote control will work only in these GM vehicles. Channel 2 of the wireless headphones will work only in these vehicles (Channel allows you to listen to DVD and Channel 2 allows you to listen to RSA).
There are two DVD systems available:
- A base system U56 comes with a remote control kit only (no headphones available).
- An uplevel system U42 comes with a remote control kit and a headphone kit (fig. 3).
TIP: Headphone kit TX3 can be added to either system.
TIP: Batteries are not included.
15136091 (Hosiden) Headphones Only Package (DVD RSE)
part number quantity item
15185391 2 Headphone Assembly
(Dual Channel Wireless)
15136092 (Hosiden) Headphones Only Package (DVD RSE)
part number quantity item
15190411 1 Control Assembly - Video Player Remote
TIP: If a kit is misplaced or was not shipped with the vehicle, follow established procedures for misplaced/missing components. The service part numbers for the kits are the same as the OEM part numbers.
That adds $1312.00 to the invoice! This doesn't even account for the factory holdback I'm sure the dealer is getting on this vehicle!
As I said, I've only delt with 2 dealers so far, but have been a little surprised by how adamant they were about refusing to negotiate these fees!
I'm going to be faxing offers to another 2 or 3 dealers tomorrow and hope the response is better.
Anybody else had the same or similar issues trying to work a deal?
I suppose the dealership can call the fees anything they want. The Ad fee is legit, although their's sounds a bit high. $499 prep fee is pure profit. GM already compensates the dealerships to prep new vehicles.
So, I think you're into a bit of semantics with the dealership. Your hot button seems to be "buy at invoice". Dealership knows these are relatively hot vehicles and will sell for more than that. Plus, there are no rebates from GM on these. Sounds like they are willing to sell you the Tahoe at $13K+ over invoice, no matter what they call it. You certainly aren't going to get into any of the holdback since they are a new design with no factory money as incentives.
I'd go in offering an "out the door" price (that is, purchase price + taxes + fees + title & license). I'd shoot for $500-$1,000 over invoice + TTL and see who bites.
thanks
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Jeannine Fallon
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com
$49120.00 sticker price.
$ 6776.00 discount
$ 5500.00 Rebate
$ 2000.00 special Dealer rebate cash
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$34844.00
$ 2119.00 GM card (gave me $1500 extra to make over $2000)
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$32725.00
$ 1956.44 6% sales tax
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$34681.44
$ 32.00 license and transfer fee
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$34713.44 total out the door price
So you should be able to get about a $14,500 discount off the sticker price. This was purchased on 02/28/06. They should be ready to move them if they are still on the lots. I really like mine. I didn't figure the trade in on this but they gave me $15,300 on a 04 Trailblazer with 20k. That was more than it was worth. Going price on the Trailblazer was about $13,500 at the time. They really wanted to move this Tahoe.
Thanks,
Chintan Talati
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com
Best thing to do is to shop a couple of other dealers and see what they're offering as far as discounts.
Around the midwest, the dealers have ads in the local papers stating MSRP as sales price of the '07 models, so far.
Did you find a solution to upgrade from a non-digital climate control to the digital. I bought a digital one from ebay and installed in my car, there are two plugs on the back, one of them fit exactly but the other one wont. When I checked it, everything works good except the fan. I can not get the fan going. Do you have any solution?
(Escalade: UP 50% in May) :surprise:
Since this is the pricing discussion, you'll have better luck getting feedback in our regular Chevy Tahoe discussion.
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Most all are designed for "user" installation.
Why illegal? The reasoning is that the lens and optics on halogen designed headlights are not suited for the different light source. HID is an arc of light, versus a filament. There is also an insulated electrode that runs the length of the bulb, and puts out a shadow in some cases. What typically happens is the the beam pattern is different, sometimes blinding to oncoming traffic, etc., etc.
http://www.dot.gov/affairs/nhtsa4304.htm
That being said, I put one in my previous vehicle, an '05 Denali. I had to shove the ballast inside a spot inside the engine compartment, and it bounced around a little. The HID bulbs base was made to fit a 9005 base, and plugged right in.
When I sold the vehicle, I took these back out.
Dave
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Is that $615 a month at 8% interest? If so that means you will be paying $51,660 for an '05 Tahoe. Not a good deal.
We need two items on our vehicle that are difficult to find on LT3 models in our area. Most salesmen lost interest in us once they discovered we would not be trading in our old vehicle (will sell it ourselves), we are paying cash for the new vehicle, and that the truck we want will need to be brought in from out of state since there are none within a 300 miles radius with the options we need. One became rude and basically told us to go home and surf the web ourselves if we wanted those options.
There were two dealers who said they found a truck with the options we needed and turns out they both are talking about the same truck.
Now here comes my question. We plan to use a suppliers discount, the $2000 GM incentive, and $1500 GM CC points for the sale. Both salesmen gave us a price, starting with the sticker price ($45,900), yet after factoring in the suppliers discount one salesman's figure was higher than the others by $200 (dealer "A" said $41,900, dealer "B" said $42,100). Also one mentioned a delivery charge, which he said "at most" would be $250, the other (who had the higher price after suppliers discount) didn't give us a solid delivery fee but did say the dealer might pay half the cost?
Also, tonight I started surfing the web for dealers in the city both mentioned and found this very truck in a dealers cyber inventory which lists the MSRP on the page as being $95 less than the amount both salesman gave us.
Lastly, with suppliers discount, does GM reimburse the dealer or does the dealer "eat" the discount we rec'd? We were given the impression from one of the salesman that it comes out of the dealers funds, not from GM. We realize GM would give the money from the incentive and GM CC points to the dealer after the sale; which makes us wonder if either dealer gave up anything or is this entire deal coming from GM itself? We have heard the dealer who now has the vehicle would keep the holdback?
We want a fair deal, and don't expect something for nothing, yet also don't want to be taken advantage of either. Right now we are confused, disgusted, and debating if we should buy or just wait a few more months to see if anything would change? thanks!
My advice is find a dealer that doesn't charge either of these or any other ADP fees (aka 'additional dealer profit') and order the truck that you want.
The first salesman never bothered calling us back. The second salesman, well lets just say the numbers were changing so fast it was hard keeping track of what the truck would cost and how we arrived at that figure.
Originally this salesman told us we could use the GM cc points along with the supplier discount, only to say today we couldn't. The delivery charge he told us we MAY have to pay PART OF turned into us paying the ENTIRE thing. He couldn't even tell us how much it would be, adding he'd give us the cost once the vehicle was here.
The $200 price difference turned out to be a doc fee. Had we not gotten figures from the other salesman we wouldn't have noticed the amount since it was lumped in with the cost of the truck itself Since we were paying cash (no financing paperwork), live in a state were no temp tags are given (cars are allowed 30 days without tags), and we have to run our title ourselves for transfer at the DMV(the dealership isn't involved), all we needed was a bill of sale and the title. When I asked this salesman today what the doc fee would cover he couldn't tell me! He only said, "well when I bought my car I had to pay a document fee too".
If this wasn't enough, today GM increased the cash incentive by another $1000, something this dealer didn't acknowledge until I mentioned it first. Bottom line, we felt that before we'd ever get the key into the ignition it would cost us a lot more than originally told.
I got on the web, found a vehicle that fit our needs this morning in a neighboring state, called the dealership, agreed on a price, will fax the necessary information to them tomorrow morning, and the truck will be shipped via flatbed. All taken care of with a few calls, a couple clicks of a mouse, in a couple hours and didn't even have to leave my house. His doc fee is $50, which I can live with. Again, they will flatbed the truck to us for a few bucks more than the other dealer would have charged us to have somebody drive it here. We feel very comfortable with this deal!
Guess the bottom line, when your gut tells you something doesn't right then it usually isn't. Anyway, thanks for all the good (and calming) advice, you are lifesavers!
I believe that since they can't "hook" you in person, they must put out the best price. My last two deals, I was fedexed the contracts so they couldn't get me on some of the usual dealer extras, like warranties, dent protection, blah-blah-blah.
Congrats!