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My daily commute is about 80 mostly highway miles but my cars do see 6250 rpm a few times a day.
I wouldn't be surprised if honda made a 170hp 2.5l I4 or a 200hp 2.5l I5
I like the idea of the I-5 because its something new and different from most companies. Then the accord could get a 260hp 3.2l v6 from the Acura TL.
I know they could do an I5 as the Vigor and 2.5TL had I5 engines with 176hp in the 90's. It may not happen but its beneficial to the vehicles that use the engine like the Cr-v, Element, and probably others in other markets.
Also history says a new TL usually comes out a year after the Accord :P
Honda should use this tag line i came up with: "Traditionally Untraditional". "Power of dreams" is getting old[er] fast.
I guess T. U. Is better for acura as thats also true: No V8, Sh-awd, no RWD, very powerful v6s.
-Cj
I like this idea as well but I doubt it. Torque has always been on the low side for Honda with the I-4. Yes they are silky smooth but I have always felt that they needed more torque at the bottom of the curve. Especially with this engine because its dual role in the CRV.
The other reason why I am interested is because the new Accord will have the ACE structure as well. I know that adds some weight along with the usual model refresh the new Honda's are getting portly soo. While 180/175 may sound like a lot of power that engine is going to have to lug around extra weight.
in 1995, The 2.5TL made 176hp/170lb ft vs the v6 accord had 170hp. The 5cyl got better city MPG than the v6 accord.
but that was over 13 years ago. With this new technology, I think honda can make a 2.5l 5 cyl with 200hp and 200lb ft. Its good for the HP wars and should still get great MPG.
The new I-5 could make each car that gets the k24 ahead in its classes. The Acura TSX needs it most since it only make 167lb ft.
-Cj
They really need to keep improving the fuel economy and not worry about adding more than a trivially small amount of extra power on the base engine.
The new 2008 fuel economy ratings will make it look as if it uses more gas even if doesn't, so the only way to even maintain the current MPG ratings is to improve it.
A 5cyl would be good as honda doesn't plan to offer a v6 in the element or Cr-v which both could use the power boost.
-Cj
-Cj
Those who think more is more can get the V6 - which could also stand to get smaller while keeping the same hp.
Why waste technology on bigger and more powerful (and usually heavier and number), keep the power and increase the mileage.
BTW what is wrong with the smallest engine - isn't the performance of the car what matters. There are plenty of really big engines without much power.
Of course my morning commute is not a drag race - maybe it is for most people. I guess I am just old and out of touch.
-Cj
The new ratings for the 2007 Accord 4-cyl (regular) are 21/31. Accord Hybrid? 24/32. (Remember the new standards are coming online in 2008).
Just an FYI for everyone.
I hope you are right about that, but I wouldn't bet on it. With all the technology Honda had to put into this car (to make it burn clean enough for U.S. emissions), it may be the most expensive Accord yet. I guess if they made a bare bones model (VP) with the diesel, it may go for 22k.
I think we would see a diesel engine in the Lx, EX and SE trims. I shouldn't be too expensive because we should see that engine in the accord, Cr-v, element, TSX, and possibly CSX. A turbo for RDX and TSX maybe...
Still, the cost of that engine will be well spread out!
-Cj
http://mapleaviary.com/cars.aspx">
Read it for yourself. They've been testing vehicles for decades and coming up with the numbers, biker4. Check out the link for the new methods. Everyone claiming "false advertisement" on the car manufacturers' side is barking up the wrong tree. Ford, Honda, GM, Toyota... it doesn't matter, none of them decide what gets to go on the window sticker. My window sticker actually says that the EPA came up with them. I would think yours would too.
I'm ready to see the Accord Sedan, the bread and butter! I'm there with ya danielp!
Actually, not entirely true. The EPA specifies the METHODOLOGY. The actual testing is done by the manufacturers. The EPA spot checks and confirms roughly 10-15% of the models in their own labs.
http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/how_tested.shtml
"Fuel economy is measured under controlled conditions in a laboratory using a standardized test procedure specified by federal law. Manufacturers test their own vehicles—usually pre-production prototypes—and report the results to EPA. EPA reviews the results and confirms about 10-15 percent of them through their own tests at the National Vehicles and Fuel Emissions Laboratory."
I guess biker4 is implying that companies like Honda are breaking the law to improve their numbers by 1 or 2 MPG.
Sorry for the confusion.
-Cj