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Buick Lucerne

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  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    GM was good about having automatic headlights. Chevy's late 90s Lumina with crank windows and only an AM/FM radio (no tape or CD) even had auto-on/off headlights.

    The only problem I have with that feature is that I see tons of Tahoes, Suburbans, Buicks, etc... driving in the rain with no headlights on. :( They should turn on when the windshield wipers are activated for more than, say, 10 seconds.
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  • turbo5lucturbo5luc Posts: 1
    I got my invoice right here on a new 2007 Buick Lucerne CXL. I got $2200 total rebate not counting my GM credits. Total cash used in the deal was $4426.61 from GM. Now that is not bad for a great car. Everyone who sees my car loves it. When they ride in it they fall even more for it. Its a big car and gets good gas mileage. GM did good with this car. It also has a wonderful 100,000 mile warranty or 5 years with 5 year road side assistance and GM provides transportation if it should ever have to go in for routine maintenance! I got a red one with creamy white interior.

    Not bad for an American car company!!!

    Turbo5luc :shades:
  • gmccoygmccoy Posts: 5
    I am also having the battery rundown problem on my 2007 Lucerne CXL. It has been to the dealer 3 times so far and this time they have had it for two weeks and still no resolution. What has your dealer found out so far about the problem?

    Thanks!

    Gary
  • dandydon2dandydon2 Posts: 77
    Hi Gary,

    Don't know if this will help, but I found that the battery ran down overnight for no apparent reason in a 2001 Chrysler 300 I used to have. Battery checked out OK. Discovered that the problem was due to my inadvertently turning on the instrument panel light switch when I wiped the dashboard. It seems that when the switch is turned full clockwise, the lights stay on indefinetly.

    Dandydon
  • gmccoygmccoy Posts: 5
    I am sure that is not the case here, because the car has a battery saver which will automatically turn off the interior lights if they are left on. I did find a TSB 06-06-03-009 which deals with battery run-down when the car is turned off, but don't yet know if it is my problem. It affects the Lucerne, Tahoe, Suburban, Impala, Silverado, and presumably a number of others. Apparently, the Body Control Module needs to be re-programmed with new software. We'll see if that helps once I talk to the dealer about it tomorrow.

    Thanks!
    Gary
  • nugbanugba Posts: 3
    After months and trying almost everything else my dealership found the problem. It was the OnStar Module staying on trying to get a location fix. They replaced the OnStar Module and after 4 months of driving never had the problem again. Before the fix I was jumping the car every 3 weeks...
  • richman64richman64 Posts: 15
    1. Better lighting (i.e. optitron) of the dash and guages like most under $20K Japanese cars have. It's a shame that a $30K-$40K car such as this does not offer this.

    2. Split folding rear seats

    3. Kill the ash tray and replace it with a storage area for CDs.

    4. Offer the better (i.e. firmer) suspension that's available in the V8 to the V6 models, especially with gas at $4 a gallon.

    5. Kill the lame port holes

    6. Offer a darker colored leather in the V6 models. The very light tanned leather looks like it will get dirty easily.
  • richman64richman64 Posts: 15
    When will the 2008 Lucerne be available? Does anyone know what changes/improvements will be made versus 2007?
  • 0311vn0311vn Posts: 48
    What are some of the prices of Lucernes going for in various parts of the country? I'm from Detroit, where I just visited and looked at some cars, but now live in San Diego. Am I right to think that metro Detroit has better deals than here in SoCal?
  • I want Buick to pay attention to my complaint of sudden engine failure on interstates with our 2006 Buick Lucerne. My letter to GM's CEO was received by GM on July 10th at 2:51 but no reply has been received by today. Five repair departments have been involved-the two recurrent problems -one above plus four episodes of not starting or even cranking seem to keep involving the wiring harness. Two repair depts genuinely felt they "fixed" the problem and we trusted them at first. Now we are involved with the original dealer who is fluffing us off-this car is a major hazard to us and others. We want a fair resolution. Suggestions beyond notifying BBB and NHTSA as stated in the manual is needed. We have an over $30,000 car sitting in our garage-useless because I am terrified to drive it on the highway.
  • jrodenjroden Posts: 8
    I got a used CXL a few weeks ago and so far like it a lot. It is quiet and comfortable and rides very nicely. The mpg's are about 24 with mixed driving. The handling is not great, I think the suspension would benefit maybe from different shocks or springs, when the time comes I'm sure there will be some aftermarket options. I wish the rear seat folded forward to allow trunk access, that's really cheesy on an expensive car like this. I'm going to get 16 inch mounted snows for the winter, the 17's were really pricey
  • On 2008 Lucernes there will be 3 new (Safety Related) options available on all models.
    (#1 is Standard on CXS)

    1- Vehicle Stability Control ( Part of Option Group# PCI)

    GM calls this"StabiliTrac".

    This technology has proven itself in all brands of autos by greatly reducing automobile related injuries.
    Furthermore to some degree ,VSC may help avoid getting into the accident in the first place!

    2- A Side blind spot Alert system (Option# UFT)

    3- A Lane departure warning system ( Option UFL)
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  • Is the Lucerne rear wheel drive? If not, why snow tires. I lived in Michigan for decades and didn't run snow tires on a van.
  • jimmy2xjimmy2x Posts: 124
    Lucerne for 2008 remains FWD - have driven both the CXL V6 and the CSX V8 - really liked the power and handling of the V8.
  • Anyone know why the Lucerne is still not offered with GM's newest V6 and six speed automatic. Saturn has had it for a year and even the new malibu offers it as an option. Since Buick is offered up as a premium brand (at least compared to chevy) why is GM withholding this engine/transmission option. They could at least offer the six speed with the current 3800 series engine assuming the two are compatible. What gives?
  • TO JIMMY2X---I drive a v8 and i found that the v8 drives and handles much better than the v6. one reason being that the v8 has MAGNETIC VAR ASSIST STEERING' which seems to stop the wandering and drifting - which I noticed in the V6. Along with "STABILITRAK", the ride and steering is very good!! I am very satisfied.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    There is no 3800/6speed combo at GM and to put the two together would be very expensive in Engineering and development. Being that the 3800 only has about 2 more years of life and is only used in two lower volume vehicles (LaCrosse/Lucerne) the 6 speed with the 3800 is not going to happen.

    As far as replacing the 3800 with one of the other engines (3.6 would be great) that would depend on how long the Lucerne is going to be around in its current FWD platform. Since it also will be replaced in the '10 time frame it is doubtful they will stick in a new engine. But it could happen if the Lucerne sticks around a bit longer since the 3800 plant will be closing in the next year or so.
  • This comes STANDARD in GM vehicles costing $20K. Yet a loaded up CXS with an 8 costing $40K Does NOT have it. The new 08' Cadillac CTS does NOT have it either. One must blow $8K on an option package to get it. No wonder why GM is on the brink of dying. And NO 6-speed tranny on the 08' Lucerne either. Man, this company has its head up its --- for sure.
  • From what I understand these cars are remote start ready so it really only takes $150 to buy the remote and activate the system. No $8K option PKG required.

    I have a 2007 Lucerne CXL with the V6. Sure it could use more power and a 6 speed but the car works fine. Most of the time I'm stuck in DC beltway traffic doing 15mph anyway. I like the car. YMMV :shades:
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    This comes STANDARD in GM vehicles costing $20K. Yet a loaded up CXS with an 8 costing $40K Does NOT have it. The new 08' Cadillac CTS does NOT have it either. One must blow $8K on an option package to get it. No wonder why GM is on the brink of dying. Man, this company has its head up its --- for sure.

    OK, now that you have your diatribe in, which of the Lucerne CXS competitors have the remote start even available? Not sure why these higher end GM cars do not have it standard and it probably does not make sense to us but then again the competition does not even have it. I do not believe Toyota not to mention Lexus has them.

    Perhaps it is inexcusable to not have the 6 speed but then again Toyota does not have a 6 speed in most of its vehicles either. They sell mostly 5 speeds and GM is passing them with the use of 6 speeds available in most of its new cars.

    And oh yea, GM is not on the brink of dieing.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    I think he just can't deal with the fact that more is not always better. Not in the case of transmissions.

    If you have a slow to rev V8, well, you need FEWER gears because it has a flat torque curve and takes a long time to wind up. You'll note that Nascar only has 4 gears. Not 6 or 10. Why? Tons of power and no desire to lug the engine.

    Conversely, a small car like the S2000 needs all six gears - probably 7 to hear most peolpe talk. It has a sweet spot RPM-wise that's very narrow.

    GM is smart to keep from getting into the numbers game, especially since repairs are becoming as expensive now as most German cars wer a decade ago. $3500-$4000 for a 6 speed Toyota automatic? Yikes. That's almost as bad as having to replace the batteries on a Prius. It's just not normal maintainence cost in my book.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    I think he just can't deal with the fact that more is not always better. Not in the case of transmissions.

    yes and no. GM was very deficient when it did not start developing a 5 speed auto 10 years ago. Product planning wanted one asap but the development money was just not there.

    Luckily once GM beancounters finally saw the writing they did the right thing by skipping the then state of the art 5 speed and went right to the 6 speed. Today GM sells more 6 speeds than either Toyota or Honda volume wize and next year will probably sell more than Toyota and Honda combined.

    Yes GM still has a few models that should have a 6 speed to be competitive but they are either being replaced by a 6 speed soon or are models that will be replaced soon.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    I'm not looking forward to a $4000 repair bill. Given that the transmission is only $1500-$1800 or so more than a manual(when a manual is offered), there is an enormous amount of gouging going on as well.
  • Remote start is standard on the Lucerne CXS and has been since the 2006 model. My 2007 has it and it works just fine.
  • jimmy2xjimmy2x Posts: 124
    aquaknott2000

    Do you find the seats comfortable on long hauls? have read that some have problems with the seat heaters - too hot. Your experience??
  • jimmy2xjimmy2x Posts: 124
    think he just can't deal with the fact that more is not always better. Not in the case of transmissions.

    If you have a slow to rev V8, well, you need FEWER gears because it has a flat torque curve and takes a long time to wind up. You'll note that Nascar only has 4 gears. Not 6 or 10. Why? Tons of power and no desire to lug the engine.


    Agreed and thank you. The herd mentality preaches that any car that uses a 4speed transmission is woefully behind the power curve without taking into account the entire package. I've driven the CSX and it is as smooth as silk.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    Now, to be honest, the Northstar Buick is using needs DI or a supercharger or something to make a bit more power, but it's a good engine, IMO, and should be considered the normal one(as opposed to the underpowered wimpy 3800 they put in the budget models)
  • I can't understand why the Lucerne does not have the 3.6 liter V6 engine with the 6 speed auto. transmission for model year 2008. I agree with you 100 Percent that the Lucerne should have the 3.6 Liter 6 speed auto. trans. for the 2008 model year as an optional engine/transmission. If the Chevy Malibu can have it for 2008 as an option, the Buick Lucerne which is suppose to be a premium brand automobile should have it to. All of the Lucerne's competitors for model year 2008 (Taurus, Sable, Charger above the base V6 engine, Chrysler 300 Above the base V6 engine and Avalon) have V6 engines with more far more HP than the 3800 V6 Lucerne (197 HP). I believe if the Lucerne had the 3.6 Liter 6 speed auto. transmission as an optional engine/transmission its sales would increase.
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