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Perhaps squinting really hard after two doses of scotch...
I see them all the time. A black BMW. Do they come in other colors?
I believe I feel your pain (literally).....so am I to assume you have an Avalon? And if so, what year?
Are you having any issues with your front seats? Seems like no matter what I do.....how I adjust the seats.....I have lower back pain the longer I drive my Avalon. It really ticks me off and surprised me......so we may be in the same boat......"What a mistake I made".....sounds very similiar to what I feel at this moment!
Kinda scary. Our entertaiment business, marching in paranoid lockstep....
THe shift hesitation bothers me too. If you have an emergency situation and need to punch it, you loose about 1-2 seconds while it makes up its mind to go.
I am now beginning to hate this car and that is the first time in my life with lots of cars I felt that way.
Hope all works out well for you
Al
Only complaints I have are minor. Don't like how wide the turning radius is, and the "coin holder" is a pain to deal with when you're actually driving. Even my teenage nephews love this car, almost as much as the convertible Camaro SS I own.
GM has stated that the car is very quiet but this reading is not significantly impressive in view of the fact that a number of the Lucerne's competitors such as the new 2006 Lincoln Zephyr and the always impressive Acura TL are also very quiet.
So just how does this reading distinguish the new Lucerne from the competition?
In view of all the hype regarding how quiet the Lucerne is, the 70 mph reading should be substantially lower.
Does anyone who has the new Lucerne CXS think it is quieter than the 68 db reading would suggest?
How do you have any idea what 68 db even means? I worked in the noise area for years and 68 db means nothing to me unless you take into context the type of noise that is being produced.
GM has stated that the car is very quiet
From what I have read from independent reviewers the car is very quiet.
Hope this helps!!
bob
Thanks for your response, as well with everyone who responded.....I can tell you this....I have owned MANY cars in my day.....and this is the first time I can honestly say that I have had any type of seat issue...especially to the point of wanting to get rid of the car.....my commute is 45-60 minutes one way and by the time I get to work or get home after the commute my lower back is really sore.....no matter how I try and adjust the seat and the lumbar support.....to me the lumbar support feels like a pointed spear that is being pushed into my back.....instead of a somewhat rounded lumbar.....
Anyway....I am going to get into another vehicle as soon as I can.....this stuff is for the birds! I have driven the Lucerne......and I must admit.....the car was real nice! In other words, this is no longer your daddy's Buick!
Good luck to you in your search for trying to solve your problem.....as it sounds.....we both have the same type of issues!
Did you drive the LaCrosse and was it as quiet?
To my human ears, the Lucerne is very quiet, quieter than the Avalon.
Glad to hear you like your Olds!
Fuel Range
Press the trip/fuel button until FUEL RANGE displays.
This display shows the approximate number of
remaining miles (mi) or kilometers (km) the vehicle can
be driven without refueling.
The fuel range estimate is based on an average of the
vehicle’s fuel economy over recent driving history
and the amount of fuel remaining in the fuel tank.
This estimate will change if driving conditions change.
For example, if driving in traffic and making frequent
stops, this display may read one number, but if
the vehicle is driven on a freeway, the number may
change even though the same amount of fuel is in the
fuel tank. This is because different driving conditions
produce different fuel economies. Generally, freeway
driving produces better fuel economy than city driving.
If your vehicle is low on fuel, the FUEL LEVEL LOW
message will be displayed. See “FUEL LEVEL LOW”
under DIC Warnings and Messages on page 3-56
for more information.
Average Economy
Press the trip/fuel button until AVG ECONOMY displays.
This display shows the approximate average miles
per gallon (mpg) or liters per 100 kilometers (L/100 km).
This number is calculated based on the number of
mpg (L/100 km) recorded since the last time this menu
item was reset. To reset AVG ECONOMY, press and
hold the set/reset button. The display will return to zero.
Instantaneous Economy
Press the trip/fuel button until INST ECONOMY displays.
This display shows the current fuel economy at a
particular moment and will change frequently as driving
conditions change. This display shows the instantaneous
fuel economy in miles per gallon (mpg) or liters per
100 kilometers (L/100 km). Unlike average economy,
this screen cannot be reset.
Average Speed
Press the trip/fuel button until AVERAGE SPEED
displays. This display shows the average speed of the
vehicle in miles per hour (mph) or kilometers per
hour (km/h). This average is calculated based on the
various vehicle speeds recorded since the last reset of
this value. To reset the value, press and hold the
set/reset button. The display will return to zero.
Also:
Oil life – various warnings, etc.
Does this help?
- Ray
Addicted to the HUD as well as the DIC . . .
Bill
A sore back is also my concern after the long commute. What have you heard about the Lucerne seats? Did it feel comfortable when you sat in it? How was the head room? I am looking for a large sedan, with comfort and easy access being a very high priority. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Eric
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My opinion on +'s and -'s
The indash nav looks cool, hard to input address while driving, needs expensive updates every few years to stay up to date, gives out real time directions while driving, has initial high cost (~$2000),
OnStar has no initial cost but monthly fee (but as part of this fee you get other benefits), hands free location of address(just push the button), can also just ask for nearest whatever and the live advisor will find it (ie gas station, mcdonalds), does not give real time directions. This is the only real negative of the OnStar nav. When you ask for directions the live advisor says: go 3 miles, turn right, go 1.5 miles turn left on XXX, go blah, blah, blah and that is about where I give up. They do now have a recorder that records the directions and you can play them back which really helps.
BUT, they just announced a new system that will give you real time directions as you drive. Not sure when it will get into the LuCerne but it will be one of the first GM cars to get it. It will also have a cheaper monthly rate. The way it works is you tell the live advisor where you want to go and they download it to your car. The car then gives out the real time directions as you drive. The only negative to this system that I can think of is that you do not get the cool screen.
What I want to know is has anyone actually tried this new system and compared it to a traditional nav system with a display. Should I go for it rather than the traditional kind?
No one in the public has tried it that I know of because it is not out yet. It was explained to me about 3 years ago and was one reason LaCrosse did not get the Nav screen. I believe the OnStar nav system will beat the heck out of the screen nav IF the monthly bill is not too high. The only other reason it may not do as well is because buyers will prefer the appearance of the cool screen.
Now why is the 3800 still around anyway? GM builds many millions of cars and trucks. To replace an entire engine family takes time and GM installs assembly tooling in modules. Each module builds XXX engines per year. They are very expensive modules and therefore GM adds modules in stages. There is one last 3800 module left in flint. The last question is how GM decided to use the last 3800's in the new Buicks (LaCrosse and Lucerne) instead of some other vehicle. Basically because the 3800 is a traditional Buick engine and loyal Buick buyers love it and the 3800 was already in those architectures. Perhaps not a good excuse to many out there who feel Buick should have ditched its traditional buyer and go premium (that means expensive) right away. Olds did that and you can see where that went.
~alpha