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Toyota Tacoma vs Nissan Frontier
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approach and departure
hmmm the gray truck doesnt even have TRD or suspension mods..
as for nissan... lol you get the idea
The Toyota Tacoma was redesigned for the 2005 model year.
Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement was well controlled. During rebound, the dummy’s head hit the roof rail.
Injury measures — Measures taken from the neck, chest, and legs indicate low risk of injuries to these body regions in a crash of this severity. A high head acceleration occurred when the dummy's head hit the steering wheel through the airbag, indicating that head injuries would be possible. Head acceleration from the roof rail hit was low.
The Nissan Frontier was redesigned for the 2005 model year and is significantly larger and heavier than previous models.
Restraints/dummy kinematics — Dummy movement was well controlled. After the dummy moved forward into the airbag, it rebounded into the seat without its head coming close to any stiff structure that could cause injury.
Injury measures — Measures taken from the head, neck, and chest indicate low risk of injuries to these body regions in a crash of this severity. Forces on the left knee and both tibias indicate that knee and lower leg injuries would be possible.
Both trucks held up very well. Just have to decide between possible leg injuries or a head shot.
By the way jmbakerak (post #646), well done!
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heres the video : tacoma kicks frontier [non-permissible content removed] with 1k in the bed accelerating & also posts a better slalom time then the frontier, the tacoma tested was also the long bed version.... sloppy handling takes corners better :P
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the shot on the head is softer and less likely to happen then a broken leg.
side impact government crash tests show no head injury...
I'd estimate that 99% of people who buy these trucks don't drive in those conditions, so approach and departure angle are irrelevent for most buyers. The difference is not great at all - a couple of degrees, I think. Get out your protractor and look at a couple of degrees. T'aint much. Ground clearance is more practical for many, and either vehicle has enough.
BTW, suspensions are supposed to move, so a picture of a tire that moved up into a wheel well does nothing bu show a good range of motion and a suspension doing it's job to keep the wheels on the ground.
I am glad you are exceedingly proud of your truck. I have the notion that if you had a Frontier (or do you?), you'd be running your mouth (or keyboard) in the same manner. Again, an example of someone convincing themself that they bought the better vehicle. Enjoy driving what you drive, but respect that others enjoy what they drive, as the decision between the two is largely an opinion, as there is not a lot of difference, ultimately, between the trucks.
Have a good one.
so i'm here to piss off owners with facts... The frontier wheel articulation sucks... and ground clearance is well less then 1/2 inch off from the tacomas... nothing to brag about since the old Tacomas had 12" stock...
Which vehicle do you drive?
I owned an "old Tacoma." Did or Do you? I own a new Frontier. Do you?
You have the name of the forum correct, but Edmunds labels this a Discussion, not an argument.
Maybe it would benefit you and others to alter your approach, or post somewhere else.
We all appreciate meaningful/insigtful information from those who have experience and knowledge on the subject.
Peace
air down tires to 15 to 20 lbs and not drag bottom. Tire size critical along with locking rear to move in lose sand when I need to. NISMO or TRD offroad package are an advantage for sure. I drove both 05 Nissan Nismo/Tacoma TRD and was impressed with both, they handle well and have plenty of power. NISMO seemed to
a little edge in power,both were extended cab models. TOY seemed a little better
ride,but no doubt either would work for me on the beaches. Now the difference is TRD costs 2 to $4000 more then Fronty NISMO. NISMO comes with more standard equipt. then TOY,they option you to death to get comparable truck. And in my past dealings with TOY dealers they just won't deal very much. So for me like some others is the extra cost for TOY worth it? If I go new will probably buy NISMO because I think bang for your buck is #1 to me. Others that don't care or just like the TOY that much better,well they will pay the difference for it. If I see them on the beach fishing I will know either truck is excellent choice, it's just they paid more cause they like the TOY better. Apples & Oranges or old Chevy & Ford arguments they just keep going. If I buy late model probably go with Tacoma TRD EXT 4X4 03/04 year. Consumer Reports rates reliability very high for them. It's all about researching your Truck purchase.
Surf! Fish'in Critter
Yes, it is a bit more simple as compared to the newer mid-sized offerings, but it was a well balanced truck. RIP 2004 Tacoma.
Mine was a white TRD x-cab with a manual and V6. Perfect small truck.
If you get one, I hope you enjoy it.
In some ways though, I like the newer mid-sized offerings, as they are more powerful, as efficient, and a bit roomier.
Good luck
Peace to you
More power and a tougher frame and bed are more important to truck owners than "slalom runs." Slalom runs sound so nancyboy. Hmmm.... a truck with known "mushy" handling wins the nancyboy slolom race. Yippy skippy!
Let's hook up the log chain!
Frontier is the prime choice in the mid-sized truck arena. 2nd place is a tie between the Ridgeline and Tacoma.
So for the LOVE OF GOD WILL YOU ALL GROW UP ALLREADY!!!!!
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I use my vehicles mainly for utility purposes, a yearly long distance road trip, and an occasional Sunday drive.
As long as my vehicle is reliable, dependable, fairly efficient, safe, looks half decent, and does'nt break the Bank, I'm happy.
The Tacoma or the Frontier would fulfill those needs. That's the bottom line.
Just for the record, I also own a Toyota car. It is a 96 Tercel DX. It has been flawless! Great little car that gets 40+ mpg. 180K and no problems.
BUT, the Frontier is still the finest midsized truck on the market!
See, I'm as balanced and fair as anyone!
as for the tug o war... ram weight 5k+ the bronco lol 3k+
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I also own a Toyota van, a 98 , and except for a few electrical glitches, it has been worry free, but not an ounce of fun to drive. I owned a Volvo sedan previously and that thing had soul! I miss that. When I took out the 05 Frontier for the first time I had that feeling. Is it just me, or are Toyota's lacking in that department? When I drove the Tacoma, it certainly performed well, but seemed ho hum. Almost like it was so refined that all the "oh what a feeling" was sucked out of it. This morning I pulled up along side a guy driving his new Tacoma and asked him what he thought. He exclaimed that he loved it, it drove just like a car! Exactly! I drove away from the light thinking, yea, but it's a truck! That's what I like about trucks.They ride like trucks!
I don't want to buy a Porsche, I need a utility type vehicle for my business, but I also want to be able to feel the road, so to speak, and enjoy the ride.
Again, maybe the Frontier is better. Better for me.
Just checking in. I refuse to post anything more on the topic at hand. It's good to see you guys are still squabbling about the same crap.
You guys really need to attend to your Nissan Frontier 2005+ forum. Talk about lack of feeling!
"I just got a new key fob off of eBay! Check it out!" Zzzzzzzzzzzz.....
I just strongly believe that if you go through many of these testamonials on this Tacoma vs. Frontier discussion, there is a strong and common thread of people who actuallly test drove and compared these two truck in person and came to choose the Frontier based on their own observations and perceptions of what seems to be a better truck. I, like many seriously contemplated going with the Tacoma. I know the Toyotas generally have great quality. I own a great Toyota car. Why not go with a proven and perceived "winner?" Well, the Frontier stole the show for me like many others who actually drove and compared both. That's it! That's all! Nothing complicated. The Frontier just seems to be a better, and more desireable truck to me. Again, I AM a Toyota owner who was going to buy a Tacoma this time around. Didn't happen.
Booner, the reason the Frontier board is so boring is because our trucks have not had the scope of major type problems that, uh um, other new mid-sized truck have been experiencing. My truck came with factory keyfobs (2). Some of the early Nissan 05's didn't get them. That's now been changed.
Moving forward!
You want your truck to be reliable? Look after it!
As far as performance goes.....well, that's a state of mind.
Toyota doesn't have a monopoly on either quality or performance any more than Ferrari does on speed.
And regarding automobile magazine write ups, one big entertaining, money generating business. Don't take it too seriously folks.
Enjoy.
I drove the Frontier. Man that thing ran and drove good. I really liked the Frontier A LOT!
I drove the Tacoma. Man that thing ran and drove good. I really liked the Tacoma A LOT!
There were things I loved about the Frontier and some I didn't. The same held true for the Tacoma. The one deciding factor for me was getting a 6' bed with a Crew Cab. The two trucks were so close that I went with the Tacoma so I could get the bed length I wanted.
I'm betting I'll love my Tacoma (when it gets here in a week or so) and every time I pass someone in a Frontier I'm probably gonna think, "I'll bet they love their truck". Each person has that "thing" that sways them one way or the other. Mine was the length of the bed. For others it is something else. I say "Happy Trucking To All, And To All a Good Night". :shades:
Good luck to both you and your son-in-law and enjoy your new Tacoma.
I HAVE A TACOMA AND I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Frontier 05 has had 7 consumer complaints, 0 recalls, and 4 bulletins.
Tacoma 05 has had 45 consumer complaints, 2 recalls, and 6 bulletins.
Keep in mind though, there are more Tacomas out there.
Surf Fish'n Critter
from Alldatas website it shows how many TSBs each truck has...05 Tacoma has less TSB then the 05 frontier...
no recalls for both.
lol You guys talk out of your arses... blurt out fake info without having anything to back it up... hahaha losers...
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The only major thing that happened to the tacomas on launch was water leaks on the the front windshield... which was fixed and isnt an issue anymore.
drives like a dream,simply LOVE ITS POWER,SO ALL YOU TOY.BUYERS WHOS LAUGHING NOW SINCE YOU MORE PROBS. THEN US NISSANS,YOU BASH US YET WHY, NISSAN HAS FIXED THIER PROBLES UNLIKE TOY!!!
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JUST GET OVER IT ALL READY TOY DRIVERS,WERE TIRED OF YOUR MOUTHING ABOUT US, I'M SURE I SPEAK FOR ALOT OF NISSAN OWNERS.....
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NHTSA Model Name:
TACOMA
Component:
PARKING BRAKE
Recall Number:
05V050000
Date recall entered into NHTSA database:
02/11/2005
Summary:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND TIGHTEN THE PARKING BRAKE PEDAL CABLE LOCK NUT TO THE PROPER TORQUE SPECIFICATION. THE RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 3, 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-331-4331.
The manufacturer first notified owners of this recall on 03/03/2005.
This recall affects vehicles manufactured between 09/13/2004 and 01/10/2005.
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NHTSA Model Name:
TACOMA
Component:
AIR BAGS
Recall Number:
05V302000
Date recall entered into NHTSA database:
06/28/2005
Summary:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE SEAT POSITION AND SEAT BELT FASTENING CONDITION SENSOR CONNECTOR. AN ADDITIONAL SUB-WIRE HARNESS WILL BE INSTALLED TO CORRECT THE CONNECTOR PIN MANUFACTURING ERROR, IF NECESSARY. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING LATE JULY 2005. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT TOYOTA AT 1-800-431-4331.
The manufacturer first notified owners of this recall on .
This recall affects vehicles manufactured between 09/14/2004 and 05/14/2005.
What's with all the stone throwing? We're just sharing info. Also, Toys are not any closer to perfection than Nissans. I should know, I own one.
Face it Toykik, you can't handle the truth can you?
Oh, I'm ready now for all of your magazine articles. Typical "internet expert" crap.
Better get your Tacoma in for those two recalls listed above (snicker).
2004-05 Titan/2005 Frontier; Spray-In Bedliner Material Discoloration
2005 Frontier, Xterra, Pathfinder; Front Seat Manual Recliner Inoperative
2005 Frontier; Spray-In Bedliner Floor Seam Repair
Frontier/Xterra/Path/Titan/Armada; Front Pass.Fold Flat Seat Recliner Ino
Titan/Frontier; Spray-In Bedliner Repair (Level 1)
Window Regulator Creaks After Opening
Nissan; Body Control Module Sub-Harness Service Campaign
Battery Testing: Nissan Original Equip. & Genuine Nissan Replacement Batt
Nissan; Engine Won't Start, NATS System Description / Key Registration
'05 Pathfinder/Frontier; Rattle Noise from VIAS Pwr Valve Act /Int Man Co
2005 Frontier With QR25DE Engine; Whine Noise From Engine When Cold
Nissan; CONSULT-II CONVERTER Software Update (Version 17)
Nissan; CONSULT-II Diagnostic Software Update #16 (UED05B)
Nissan; CONSULT-II ECU Reprogramming Software Update #6 (AER05A)
Nissan; CONSULT-II NATS Software Update #4 (AEN04A-1)
Nissan; Information on Paint Stains Caused by Tire Dressing
nissans website...
Well VQs have piston slap... isnt that great
It's a good thing you pulled every issue from any recent Nissan model (most are first year models) to illustrate how much better the 2005 Tacoma is as compared to the 2005 Frontier. Maybe you could stir up some dirt on a 95 Sentra. That'd teach us.
Again, your post is fruitless.
Maybe if all posters who look for pertinent information on this forum were to ignore any post submitted by toykik, he'd get the point that his input is not welcome. There are actual Toyota owners on this forum who manage to constructively add valuable content to the board without comming accross as... well... as you do.
Good day
need some more engine options for mid sizes too!
The worst problem I had on the Frontiers I drove was an alignment, and that was on the one I ended up taking home. Mine was an early production Frontier, so it needed the TSB for the intake plenum rattle. Otherwise it's been trouble free for 22,000 miles in 7 months.
4wd has been virtually flawless. It actually pulled me out of a mudhole when only the left front had traction; the 4-wheel limited slip is that good.
On a couple of occasions when repeatedly going in and out of 4-low, it's given me a warning that it wasn't fully engaging or disengaging. The fix both times was to turn off the ignition to reset the computer, after which it worked fine. By comparison, when I had 4wd trouble in the Tacoma, there was nothing either I or the salesman could do to get it to work properly; we left it with the service dept after the test drive. I never followed up to see how serious the problem was because after having problems on four different trucks, the Tacoma got dropped from my short list.
Others on this forum have reported no problems with the 05 Tacoma's 4wd, so perhaps the problems I encountered were on the early production units. Whichever you buy, I'd give it a workout on a test drive before committing.
http://www.nissanhelp.com/Bulletins/Frontier/2005/1.htm
to me, getting a truck is like clothes shopping, no matter how expensive or proven durable a shirt maybe, if it don't fit you, it won't fit you.
No matter what reason you had for getting a (05tacoma?),you did good. don't need to convince anybody in this board. your happy with it right??
Let's help this young lady get a truck that will fit to what she needs to use it for.
both trucks are good, just depends on what you are really wanting it to do.
as far as dependability,quality, etc. can't judge a book by its cover.this is the year 2005 and 2006. the past is the past.