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They got stung buying their $30,000(or $40,000) Lemonados. They are trying to resolve their pain by bashing Toyotas. Please give them the pity they deserve!
"Why would any red-blooded american want to buy a foreign built truck?"
So when did indiana become a foreign nation?
What's with that? I've given up on the Big 3 and yet still they haunt my threads!
Oh they says toyota parts are made in japan. Little do they know that the nickel, copper, aluminium and plastic likely came from north american soil. I'm sure japan don't have these material.
Hey obyone, quad, etc, keep those truck and suv orders coming, and keep buying new one every 2 years because we canadian just loves those US dollars.
Funny you get so hot and bothered about a hypothetical situation, like trucks made in Afghanistan. You must truly live in a hypothetical world, where trucks that spend 4 months a year at the dealership are the best trucks money can buy...
Sidestepping into the past? The past is a good indication of the future. Your NEW truck was plagued with problems that took 4 months to fix, what the HELL makes you think it will "improve" with time and more miles???
This is all TOO FUNNY! It's obvious you're only here trying to justify your purchase of that LEMON!!!
Oh yeah, did that 4 months at the dealership solve your truck's tendency to crumple like styrofaom in a collision that was so clearly illustrated by the IIHS' crash test?
I see domestic terrorism is alive and well. Got the same chev zealots terrorizing Tundra topics. Who's the lamo that blasted nadahi12? Why would buying a well built truck from Afghanistan be bad? The Afghan people are more supportive of our fight against the terrorist than many "educated" Americans.
My Tundra missed me while I was gone. We had a great fun making up for lost time when I got back
WOW. It amazes me the extent that people would go to put down another person. So now I am a terrorist. How funny. You are a man not worth having an argument with. You probably do not have two IQ points to rub together to keep warm in winter. YIKES. What a moron
Please leave this thread for TUNDRA owners only.
1) I could buy a US built pickup (Tundra)
2) or a truck built in Canada (the GM Denial).
Tough choice!
When Host get's into the office Monday, he's going to delete most of the last 30 posts anyway.
I ask my question again: Tundra owners, the reviews say one of the Tundra's weaknesses is its lack of options found on the big three; things like heated mirrors/seats, lumbar, etc. How do you feel about this? Do you miss these creature comforts? I'd like to hear especially from you guys who live where there's seasons and snow.
Any Tundra driver put baby seats or child booster seats in the extra cab? Is there enough room for the tykes back there and still leave enough leg room up front for driver and passenger?
Another question - front buckets vs. split bench - what do you prefer? Thanks!
I was in the market for a truck that could tow my boat. We had settled on the Ford SuperCrew and I thought I'd test drive a Tundra to "just to say I did". I was so impressed 2 blocks from the dealership I knew it was for me. I've owned an 1998 F150 and liked it (with some reservations)... there are so many things about the Tundra that set it ahead.
The IForce engine is smooth and powerful, ride is quiet and composed, fit and finish is first class. I'm not bothered with not having a plethora of options to choose from; mine came with about everything you can add to an SR5. Toyota is directing this truck to a specific buying segment and has done a great job of addressing the most desirable configuration. I think the equipment on the truck is what I expected...I don't think the lack of heated mirrors or lumbar adjustment would have stopped me from buying it. The ride, engine, quiet interior and handling sold me. This truck flat out moves! Plus, Toyota build quality and reliability are very important to me. Crash test aside, what IS important is how you drive it and being sane on the road.
I'm actually liking the smaller size of the truck and personally I never intended to put people in the back seats. I've used the bed extender for holding packages and also extended for longer cargo and it is a versatile option.
I think Toyota is being cautious with this truck and as they continue to evolve it you will begin to see more options and engine choices. An automaker can't be all things to all people and for a majority of us the Tundra fits perfectly for our needs.
For OBYONE, buy what YOU like and makes you happy. In the end that is all that is important and contributing to the childish bashing of other vehicles doesn't do much for the spirit or intent of these forums.
I don't have children but I have ridden in the back for short periods and it is perfectly fine for two adults back there for short trips.
I had to take it in for a brake vibration around 10k miles, the dealerhsip had it less than one day and the problem hasn't resurfaced. The Tundra is the quietest, smoothest, most comfortable truck I've ever driven/ridden in. I highly recommend it.
I also can't figure out why the chevy yahoos keep lurking around in this forum. They clearly contribute nothing except to tout the reliability of their trucks-only spending four months in the shop every year. I guess that's some kind of a record for a chevy.
I have had my truck for over a month now. It is a 2002 4X2 with the cc, vp, lsd, al, floor mats, hitch, fog lights, and delux cd/cass/radio.
The Captian Chairs HAVE a lumbar adjustment knob for the dirver for 2002. I do not know about the 2001. I do not think that the bench seats have that option. So get the Captian Chairs and that will take careof the lumbar support.
As for the heated mirrors, it is an option that I do not need in SoCal. And fankly I do not miss it even when it is cold and it is raining. I do not have leather seats. I never liked that option, especially on a truck. It takes a lot of time to keep leather seats maintained. I love the cloth ones. They stick to you and keep you in place.
The truck is simply awesome. I did not like the stock shocks. I felt they were too soft. So I replaced them with HD Bilestin shocks. These are even stiffer than the stock bilestin with the TRD package. Even with these shocks the truck rides smoothly. It does not wallow like the stock one. And you feel more in control on rough roads.
The rear seat is cramped. That is a fact. I am a single man and I do not use the rear seat anyway. But there is room for little children back there. For adults it becomes hard on long trips.
I highly recommend the truck. This truck is perfect for the urban jungle. The size is just right for my needs.
I checked everything over and gave it a second try. All better. Hasn't happened again since.
All I can figure is that it had something to do with the weather - heavy rain on the day before followed by a very hard freeze overnight. Some coincidence with that and how the engine was configured when I shut it off the night before.
In either case, that was about 2000 miles and one oil change ago. Hasn't recurred but I'm watching it.
Anybody else? How about a possible explanation that doesn't involve guessing?
Jeff
On the other hand blue smoke = oil burning. Doesnt sound like this was your problem it was probably just because it was cold out
Ryan
I'm glad to hear the '02 has lumbar, and as long as I garage the truck, I can live w/o heated mirrors and seats, probably. I like BIG (aka Chevy), but my wife likes small. She wants me to get a compact pickup again, but she does like the Tundra.
I suppose if I needed a truck capable of towing or hauling the weights that an F-350 can haul I would have bought one. I don't though so thankfully I didn't have that limitation imposed on me when making my choice in trucks.
Bucket seats have all got to go
When we're driving in the car
It makes my baby seem so far
I need you here with me
Not way over in a bucket seat
I need you to be here with me
Not way over in a bucket seat
But when we're driving in my Malibu
It's easy to get right next to you
I say, "Baby, scoot over, please"
And then she's right
There next to me
I need you here with me
Not way over in a bucket seat
I need you to be here with me
Not way over in a bucket seat
Well a lot of
Good cars are Japanese
But when we're driving far
I need my baby
I need my baby next to me
Well, stickshifts and safetybelts
Bucket seats have all got to go
When we're driving in the car
It makes my baby seem so far
I need you here with me
Not way over in a bucket seat
I need you to be here with me
Not way over in a bucket seat
May the iForce be with you!!!!!!!
I like that one!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
I'd email you, but no email addy...
Ryan said white smoke at startup in cold climate is normal. But I think he means the kind that results from condensate, ie water vapor.
But you said (loud). If it made a (bang) when it started, just before you shut it down, you need to be at least aware of a possible head gasket/sealing problem. This happend to me in 1978 on a 5 year old Datsun 240Z. Started with a single bang, but ran fine afterwards. But it recurred over several days or weeks (no money those days), finally culiminating in a big blast with white-bluish smoke pouring from the exhaust. Blown head gasket.
Telltale signs will be oil floating on top of your coolant, or a milky white/gray swirls in your motor oil. Hope I'm wrong, but SOMETHING told you to shut it down, post the query in here. Might be advisable to check the torque on the head bolts. All it takes is a few drops to weep into the cylinder overnight.
I think I'd avoid the bench w/ leather.
Ontario, Canada !
I'm proud of our country, too! My question is ... if we follow your thinking, why should Canadians buy trucks & cars made in the USA ?
rcoos
As well you should, since a U.S. dollar goes farther in your country than a Canadian dollar goes in ours.
Gee, I'm guessing that a 1/2 ton of feathers and 1/2 ton of rocks weigh the same-a 1/2 ton. Duh.
I'd like to thank those that gave me some very helpful info.
I'd also like to Wish everyone a Wonderful and Joyous Holiday Season and hope only for the best for you and yours.
Tony K.