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My 2000 2WD Extended Cab, V8, has 20,000 miles just took it in "check engine" light came on, turned out to be bad oxygen sensor. Also, have vibration, pulsing while braking, dealer says rotors need to be smoothed. Will pick up truck today, see how they did. Otherwise no other problems (bought the truck new).
Rides great , plenty of power, 16.8 mpg so far around town. Good radio comfortable seats (bench)
I got a LINE-X spray in liner and it looks great.
Very Happy....
How do you like it and what kind of mileage did this coversion get.
Thanks
Jeff
Thanks
The same place offered a plug in wiring harness setup like you described, but it was a lot more expensive, I recall - something like 80 bucks or so installed versus the 25 or so for the one they put on. I'm vague on the actual prices, but I remember the plug in harness was significantly more. You'll save a lot of money over the "factory" hitch from Toyota. Shop the web and compare.
Jeff
IMO when a truck with only 3,000 miles is up for sale it is because of some problem. Could be a financial problem - owner can't make payments, or a mechanical problem. Of course maybe the owner just changed his mind!
I would expect to pay at least $2,000 less than the price of a new truck. Because you are buying a used vehicle.
A quick look in the paper (Houston Chronicle)
Joe Myers Toyota (888) 548-6746 -
New 2002 Tundra A/C AM/FM Digital clock Tilt $14,990
Mike Calvert Toyota (713) 558-8100 New 2002 Tundra A/C tilt floor mats clock $14,950
Looks like both of these have the manual tranny
Based on this I would say your deal is not that good.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for any comments.
26k miles on ours, although we have only put on 3k since we bought our 2001 used with V8 etc. No problems whatsoever. The ride is far superior to the Tacoma we had......loved the Taco for 4 years and 80k miles though.
The Ram is stylish, but unless you get the 20" wheels/tires and sport body colored grill, I think the proportions are a bit off. I found the Ram to drive "big" compared to the Tundra, which turned me off somewhat, especially with the slightly underpowered engines offered on light duties. It wasn't bad, but I certainly didn't feel it rode and handled as well as my Tundra, despite having good numbers on the test track. But I admit I only took a couple of test drives in town.
Actually, I have a black '02 Silverado Z71 reg cab sportside AND a green/silver '00 Tundra SR5 V8 2wd and like both, so I feel fairly objective about these trucks. But in terms of controlability in panic situations, road feel, and confidence, I prefer the Tundra. The Silverado rides smooth and has great low rpm torque, and looks better. I also like that the Tundra steers and brakes with less effort, an advantage when you have to act fast or are tired.
My experience with the Tundra has been good, but not outstanding. In 40,000 miles of heavy use (towing a trailer much of the time) I've had two Oxygen sensors go bad. While it could still be driven, I had to wait quite a while the first time on parts to arrive. Also the paint quality was disappointing, chipping very easily. The serpentine belt squeaks when wet outside and they "conditioned it" but refused to replace 3 times. It's squeaking again out of warranty so I will just replace it. But as far as the transmission goes, this is the best one I've had and I've owned all major makes. No problems with heavy duty towing use. Brakes did require resurfacing and rotor turning at only about 22K mi, and are ready for it again at 40K, but again, I use them hard. No big deal, $175. Toyota also cheaps out and doesnt' use platinum plugs, so you have to change them at 30K. Did it myself, so not a big expense. Resale is phenomonal. Drove it out for $25,000 in '99. Seeing advertised prices from $18,500-$20,000 on autotrader for comparably equipped/mileage models. Great cupholder setup with buckets.
Things I would change on the Tundra in the future:
1. Make it full size for better rear seat room and bed depth/size.
2. Better door detents so they stay open.
3. Improve paint quality.
4. Fix styling, which seems to be getting worse rather than better IMHO. What is with that step bed?
5. Fix problem of bed sagging with heavy load. Rated for 1850 lbs but sags with just 1,000.
I have the squaeky belt when it is wet outside or damp. Have you noticed it on your silverado. Dont think its a big deal (i have 32K and will be changing this spring). Also i think all the manufacturers are skimping on their paint jobs. Less paint = less money = more profit. Also notice how the sheetmetal each yr gets thinner?
I have done some research on new Tundra's and wanted some real world experience with this truck. Anyone out there own a 2003 Tundra 4x4 Limited with TRD? How has this truck been so far? What are others paying out there for this truck? I'm also looking for some good pics of the 2003 Tundra...Know where to find any?
Any input would be much appreciated.
I tow a 5200 lb 26 foot camping trailer.
Make sure you buy the towing package as it now is the only way you are ensured the transmission cooler (2003).
No problems to date. The truck is great.
My 2000 Tundra V6 Regular Cab (first one) did not have any problems either with the exception of the 2000 shimmy which the dealer fixed free with a new set of Michelins.
This morning my wife took my Tundra out to the post office and got about 1-2 miles when the Check Egine light came on. She turned around and came back home and I took my 2001 Tundra 2WD SR5 AccessCab to the nearest Toyota dealership's service department.
An hour and a half later I was informed I was ready to go. When asked what happened, they said the Oxygen sensor had failed and they warrantied the repair. I asked what caused it to fail and they had no clue, but added it wasn't uncommon on the Tundra V8 line.
Since TundraSolutions does not allow non-paying subscribers and guest to do searches or posting in the Technical section of that site (I understand perfectly, as it would be a valuable resource), I am looking elsewhere.
Has any other Tundra owner had a problem with an O2 sensor, or any other sensor going out? I have about 27K miles on the truck, of which 90% are non-rush-hour interstate driving. I change the oil regularly with fully synthetic oil and performance filter and never had any problems.
Last Saturday, I got lazy and instead of changing the oil myself, I took the 7-quarts of Mobile one and appropriate Mobile 1 filter to this very same dealership to have them change it (and they did for $9.95!). I also had them rotate the tired, but they screwed that up by rotating only two of the four tires.
Just curious. No problems until after I have someone do something. Coincidence?
Hope this helps.
Ken
Regarding "Very often something as simple as not screwing the cap on the gas tank on tightly can cause a false reading on an O2 sensor." This is not correct. OBDII (or On Board Diagnostics II) will set a code in the computer and by spec turn on the Check Engine light. But this is not due to an O@ sensor relatd issue. The issue is has to due with the fuel evaporative emissions control system. Due to stricter emissions control systems regulated by law. Fuel systems are now a closed system. By having the fuel cap off the system can detect that there is on open vent to the atmosphere. In this condition the check engine light comes on.
The codes set in the computer relating to an O2 sensor are due to a direct feedback system that allows the computer to monitor the O2 sensor and its performance.
Failures of O2 sensors is most likely due to manufacturing defects, vibration and or fuel additives. One other possibility may have to do with the fuel curve on a particular vehicle (although I admit that this is reaching).
Walter (gator)
Ken
At this point I am thoroughly disgusted with the truck and would like to run it off the nearest cliff. Am wondering if anyone else has had the problem with the rear axle?
It has never been involved in an accident, I don't tow with it, and the most weight I have ever carried in the back was a load or two of mulch this past spring. I think the truck is history. I will never buy anything foreign again.
My Tundra has towed and been off road in nasty places that get trucks stuck. But I'm at 27,000 miles and not the slightest problem. I know several other Tundra owners and none of them have seen a problem similar to yours.
The axle is bent - something bent it. They don't come that way from the manufacturer (or if they do, your test drive would have revealed it). Surely there is something --- ?
1. 3 O2 sensors failed, last one out of warranty.
2. Drum brakes went out of round and caused vibration on hard braking at 20K miles. Fixed for free by dealer w/o any fuss.
3. Door indents are weak, causing them to close on you on even slight inclines.
4. Drive belt squeaky when cold. Easy to replace yourself, though.
5. Seatbelt retractors weak.
6. Stock shocks weak. Installed Bilstein HD's and it handles much better, with slight ride penalty, but I prefer firmer ride.
7. Rear springs compress too far, like all toyotas, under load. installed helper springs and it's fine now, also seems to help with body roll.
8. Paint chips WAY too easily. Worst Toyota paint job I've ever had. My '91 4runner looked better at 10 y/o than the Tundra does at 3 1/3 years. But overall finish is ok, no peeling, etc.
9. Interior plastics are hard and scratch easily.
That's about it. By far the most satisfying truck my wife and I have owned, and we've owned them all, including the following:
'91 Toyota 4runner
'93 Chevy S10
'95 Chevy C1500
'97 Dodge Ram 4x4
'98 Ford F150
'01 Chevy Tahoe 2wd
'02 Chevy Silverado 4x4
The Tundra is easier to control, has better braking and great acceleration, despite the bragging rights of the other makes to more hp or torque. only Silverado beats it in 0-60 runs, but new Dodge hemi might. Road feel is superior, with less numbness than others. Space is tighter, but I don't have passengers so it's not a concern for me. Styling has grown on me, so it's ok. Great for light/medium duty, but pick a HD model for HD work. 4 cupholders with bucket seats are great and it has lots of storage space. Relatively smooth and quiet, and with shock upgrade seems to handle great. Certainly less of a load to handle on curvy roads than some of my previous "full size" trucks. Feels more nailed down, more in control, than Silverado or old Ram did. Finally, I feel it has been more reliable and inspires more confidence than the domestics have.
If not for the styling miscues on '03 models, I might buy again. I don't like the plastic bumpers and new grill too much, plus I usually just like to buy a different truck out of boredom. The new Nissan Titan seems superior on paper, but the styling is a little out there.