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Ford Taurus X Prices Paid and Buying Experiences
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I guess when you're buying used and trading in another used it's sort of hard to determine if it's a good deal or not. But lets say you separated the deals and sold the '06 yourself and got $15K and bought the used '08 for $22K, you'd have to pay $7000 instead of $10,000, so you're paying the dealer $3000 for the convenience of not having to sell your '06. That's a loss everyone pays for trading in their car at a dealer versus selling it on their own, so it's up to you if it's worth it.
07 Freestyle $4900 below invoice. (Any of these left on the market?)
08 T-X $2425 below invoice. (X-Plan Deal) Currently, there is $1500 customer cash/Factory to Dealer cash ???. At a minimum, start with a $2500 below invoice offer with no extra fees. If they say "no" leave your number and go to the next dealership. As the economy declines, time is on your side!
As part of your car deal question all extra fees the are not paid to the local and state Govt at TT&L and avoid add-ons!
Keep your trade (if you have one) and financing separate from the car deal.
There are a lot of people on this site that are willing to assist you.
Good Luck!
Speak for yourself bud. Maybe your economy is in "decline". Mine isn't.. and neither is that of most people.
BTW.. Your postings on this board are of no help to anyone. You have no verifiable data with which to work. In fact, you have no data period. Ford has been selling about 3000 X's a month. Neither you nor anyone else has any way of determining what these vehicles are going out the door for. If you do... then tell me what I paid for my last vehicle. Go ahead. I'm waiting... Hmmmnn... I'm still waiting. I can't hear you. Speak up little guy.
seloo's comment about the declining economy is good assessment of the US economy. The dollar has dropped a tremendous amount compared to foreign currencies. One result is oil price is at a highest level ever. President Bush is giving out an "Booster Shot" with tax refunds to prime the economy. The Federal Reserve is even having emergency meetings to drop interest rates to try and stop an impending recession, which many economists say has started anyway. National housing prices have dropped 9% from last year, with foreclosures at the highest level in history. My dealer has said he's never seen such a bad economy for cars, and the recent year-over-year sales for all manufactures show a several percent decline from last year, first time to happen in many years.
Denial of an economic decline is absurd. If you have a lot of "surplus economy" yourself, maybe you can help bail out some of your foreclosing neighbors. But we don't care.
This thread does rely on people reporting honestly. I did. I suspect others are too. The only confusion sometimes is what rebates and fees were included in the price discount, which is why I detailed my invoice and price paid.
Thank you for your comments, we understand that the intention here is to share information and hopefully, save money on car deals.
As for our friend Passat 2002 and his comments concerning the state of the economy and the implication that Taurus X’s monthly sales are good, this could be his attempt at some satire.
I agree with your comments concerning rebates and fees. Some buyers really understand the concept with others provide some very confusing information. Thanks for making the numbers from your deal very understandable.
You are right; there has been a lot of coverage concerning the weak new auto market. I suspect we will see heavy discounting in the near-term. In many cases, dealers are hurting.
Take care,
Seloo
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If we lease it'll probably be 3 yr, 15k/yr ( we've been averaging 13k on our current van)
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Peeter
Since I ordered, the price on the TX had increased, but with the X-Plan, there is price protection, so I didn't have to pay extra. Other than that, the deal was the same as what I had posted back in December:
2008 TX Eddie Bauer AWD
Merlot with Gold Accent
Reverse Sensing System
Heated Seats
X-Plan Price: $30,342
Rebate: $1,500
Document Fee: $75 (the max fee allowed on X-Plan purchases)
Total price before TTL: $28,917
Originally the invoice price was $30,388. However, this was back in December before the price increase. The MSRP went up by $240, so assuming that the invoice price went up by the same amount, my guess is that the invoice price was $30,628.
You'd have to ask Ford that question! Any other answer that I'd give would be pure speculation on my part.
Yes, pretty much! In addition, the X-Plan has a lot of consumer-friendly rules (max doc fee of $75, price protection for factory orders) which make it worthwhile for anyone who is eligible.
There is another Ford message board where people can request X-Plan PINs from current Ford employees. Ford employees are allowed to give away a certain number of X-Plan PINs per year to friends, so many give away their PINs to other posters who request them. I am not sure if I am allowed to post the URL or not, but if you do a google search you can find it pretty easily. It is definitely the way to go if you are interested in purchasing a Ford vehicle.
NOTE: I am not a Ford employee so I don't have any PINs to give away. So don't bother asking me for one...
Post your best deal in terms of below invoice price:
07 Freestyle $4900 below invoice. (Any of these left on the market?)
08 T-X $2425 below invoice. (X-Plan Deal) Currently, there is $1500 customer cash/Factory to Dealer cash ???. At a minimum, start with a $2500 below invoice offer with no extra fees. If they say "no" leave your number and go to the next dealership. As the economy declines, time is on your side!
As part of your car deal question all extra fees the are not paid to the local and state Govt at TT&L and avoid add-ons!
Keep your trade (if you have one) and financing separate from the car deal.
There are a lot of people on this site that are willing to assist you.
Good Luck!
I am interested in leasing a pretty stripped down one that seats 6 - 36k miles - 36 months and have no idea on a good price.
I think that the residual is going to be poor making other higher priced japanese cars a better leasing deal.
For April, retail cash is now $2000 on the Taurus X and the dealer cash and X-plan rebates are still in play, so today's best quote is $3200 below invoice -- a little better than X-plan.
(The vehicle I'm purchasing is a well-equipped demo -- $4300 below invoice + $39 doc fee -- but that shouldn't qualify for the leader board! Dealer is making his money on my trade at KBB "excellent", but it was competitive with other dealers and I don't have the time to sell this one myself.)
Good luck to all!
If that is the case, then $4K below invoice should be easy?
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Post your best deal in terms of below invoice price:
07 Freestyle $4900 below invoice. (Any of these left on the market?)
08 T-X $2425 below invoice. (X-Plan Deal) Currently, there is $2K customer cash/Factory to Dealer cash ??? and I understand $2K from the X plan.
With those discounts one would hope to see deals at $4K under invoice.
As always, question all extra fees the are not paid to the local and state Govt at TT&L and avoid add-ons!
Keep your trade (if you have one) and financing separate from the car deal.
There are a lot of people on this site that are willing to assist you.
Good Luck!
I'm planning on leasing a pretty much fully loaded Ford Flex Limited...any early indications on resid/money factors from Ford?
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Thanks
Peeter
This car has some really slow sales numbers. I am not sure if you prefer the 0% financing or the cash rebates, you will have to do the numbers to see which is better for your situation. Is the $2K rebate still available with the XPlan?
If you do not need a car today, I would really push for a deep deep discount well below invoice and on top of any rebates. The factory is doing all it can to help the dealers move cars, but you will need bid very low to find out how much assistance is being provided.
Good Luck!
Our original plan was to purchase in Sept. to get one more summer out of the Windstar, and hopefully get some good discounts on leftovers. However, the wife's parents buying a new car has piqued her interest and we have now started actively looking again. She had tested a Freestyle last year and liked it, and the TX still remains the top choice over the CX9 and Tribeca. We are going to look at an XC90 in the next couple of days and that may change ( we already have an s70 and this would make our 4th Volvo).
If the deals are there, we'll buy, otherwise, were content to wait.
So, should I look for a price below the XPlan and rebate to start?
Thanks
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Confirmed with the Ford dealer today $5K off! We were talking about at least $5.5K below the invoice price likey more, but a Ford Program Car maybe even a better deal.
Prices are very soft on Ford Products!
It was just extended to 9/2/08!
(Dealer was Apple Ford in Columbia, MD. Nice people to deal with, although still a little pushy on all the high-profit dealer add-ons like undercoating, paint protection etc.)
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On the other hand, he claims that deals can be found on slightly used models, but you need to be very informed (understanding wholesale pricing) and savvy buyer or you will pay too much. Prices are extremely soft on this car!
The TX is not a bad car, it just cannot compete with the other crossover models.
Good Luck!
- Chad
- Chad
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Aug 08: 1,670 4,863 -65.7
YTD: 18,473 27,346 -32.4
Even with $5K in rebates sales were down 65%!
are down this year. Yet 32.7 percent of their ‘08 sales sailed with the
fleets.
Taurus and Taurus X are next, with 48.1 and 54.8 percent respectively, accounting for 34.1 percent of the nameplates' total sales."
With much slower new car sales (down 65%), and with all fleet sales (representing 55% of all Taurus Xs sold) entering the used market, prices are headed down! Way down!
Unless we start seeing $10-12K (+) discounts on new models (the going rate for a CX-9 is $9-10K off MSRP) a new Taurus X is not a good value. On the other hand, one must be very careful with the pricing of the used fleet models. Most depreciation models show (depending on the trim) $9-10K depreciation for the first year ownership. Many of these fleet models have exceeded the annual mileage cap or are in below avg condition, so addition appreciation is in order. Also, watch for big rebates on new Xs, (last month a savvy buyer could have purchased a new X for $6-7K off MSRP). You want to take that into account when pricing the used fleet models.
In attempt to stabilize the fleet prices for the X, Ford is offering floor support (interest-free cars to dealers) and/or special financing rates.
Buyers really need to do their research before purchasing this model!
Good Luck!
"Last week alone (1-5 Sep 08), over 100 2008 Taurus X E.B. FWD sold at auction and 68 2008 Taurus X E.B. AWD sold.... those are fairly large numbers for a week - there should be no shortage of other similar vehicles to select from."
Because of Ford Floor Support, these cars are over priced by about $1 to1.5K.
Buyers Beware!
In July:
Limited (Avg Condition/miles) with DVD sold at auction for $18.3K
Limited (Avg Condition/miles) w/o DVD sold at auction for $17.6K
Prices increased on August.
We all know the dealership has to make some money on these deals, but buyers need to be beware of high prices!
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