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Ford Escape Hybrid Owners: Problems & Solutions
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Ummm, you do realize that Delphi is a GM subsidiary, not Ford?
I can accellerate decently and cruise along just below 40mph in electric - when in low.
Hang in there :mad:
No - it's not the parking brake or the regenerative braking. It does it while accellerating, coasting, regenerative braking, regular braking...
There have been enough injuries to rescue workers by Hybrid vehicle battery systems that we have had special training for dealing with extrication from them. This involves not only removing the key and placing it onto the dash - but disconnecting the 12v battery system and then the hybrid system. Since the squeak can't be found and fixed, how do we know it's not something wearing into the gas tank or the hybrid batteries?
There is no way to know what it could cause when you don't know what it is doing. Prove to me that it's a strut (one of Ford's tries) - then prove to me that the strut failure won't cause the vehicle to be uncontrollable at 70mph. Tell me it's the brakes, or the bearings (as we've also been told) and you once again can't prove that a loss of that system will leave the car in a controllable state.
I don't think it's a doomsday scenario to say that if they can't figure out what's causing it - then the vehicle shouldn't be considered safe and driveable - especially when they have been suspecting things that would cause a loss of control of the vehicle if they failed at 70mph.
Most recently, my "service brake system" warning came back on. Turns out that when my hydraulic master cylinder and electronic braking systems were replaced, they failed to bleed the hydraulic portion completely...at least that is what I was told. At this point, the brake problems are all fixed.
I have 5000+ miles on mine. Its been in the shop for 12 business days out of service. The same problem has recurred twice. According to MA lemon laws, in the first calendar year "in service" to fix the same problem 3 times, and a combination of 15 days out of service for any number of issues, then Ford gets a last effort to fix it... if everything is unsatisfactory, then the lemon law can be invoked and/or arbitration.
I go back in tomorrow to have the cruise control repaired. I was told there are only 8 cruise switches in the US.
I for one, am planning to support this technology. I am keeping careful records (even posting my progress here) in case this turns out to be a bad investment. Luckily, I do not have the squeaks (I have never used the emergency brake therefore haven't invoked the cable rear noise issues).
Good luck with getting resolution on the junction box. My dealership bends over backwards when I come to the shop. I have never been nasty, only polite. So far, my politeness and flexibility have paid off with great service (and free rental cars) !
I have not been able to find anyone who makes a cargo partition for these vehicles.
Is anyone aware of a manufacturer of cargo partitions for the Ford Escape / Mazda Tribute platform?
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I wouldn't expect anyone to make one specific to it.
What it's doing - high revs and little to no power when the engine is under a load. It's like the clutch is going on a manual car. The tech orignially thought it was the transmission but called today and they are still investigating. BTW if the tranie goes, apparently they replace the whole thing and not fix it.
Anyone out there experience this? Anyone have that many miles on one yet? The guys up here work on 3 and I have the oldest one.
Rather than that problem I love it. Great mileage for the hills and better on the flats and goes great in the snow and offroad which I do 1-4x/week winter and summer. It was between this and a slubaru. This got better mileage and was about the same price.
Recently, I have had some problems and they're starting to get annoying. After a year of near perfect behaviour, I have been experiencing surges, the car lurches forward, the orange wrench and service soon indicator appear and the gas engine, which keeps running provides no forward momentum power. - the Electric engine wants to work, however cannot maintain the speed and I am forced to pull over and restart. Once teh engine restarts, it revs quite high until, (I suspect) the battery is full charged again.
This has now happened to me 4 times, I have taken it to the dealership and they seem to be dumbfounded. The first time, they thought it was the master cylinder, so they replaced it. The second time they couldn't figure it out, the third time, they replaced a thermostat as they said the car thought it was overheating, the forth time, well it just happened today, so I'm off to the dealership tomorrow. A diesel Liberty is starting to look better and better all the time.
I wish I had an answer for you; however, I'm hoping your tech figures out what's wrong.
Post if you know the answer!
Good luck.
You must not be in California if you can get a Liberty diesel. They are touchy in the steering and seem to have a high center of gravity. Rather than that they are fun to drive and seem to be reliable. Boss has one and he's taken it to Baja and I've driven it to jobsite in all sorts of weather conditions.
I'll post something if I find anything out.
Saturday afternoon - it started squeaking again, and it was really loud (we were in a series of underpasses and it was echoing back to make it even worse). We took it back to the Ford dealership - and talked to the service manager to let him know that it was doing it once again - and that we'd had enough. We went from there to the Honda dealership to trade it in and be done with it. The Honda dealership said it looked perfect - but they'd have to call a ford dealership to get a value. The ford dealership wanted to know the VIN number - and then told them it was only worth $16,000. This is a 2006 Ford Escape Hybrid, with leather, appearance package, the top stereo package, and a door keypad entry and 8500 miles. The interior and exterior are perfectly clean - and no signs of wear.
We took it to CarMax - and they offered us $22,000. Now if the car doesn't have problems - then why did the Ford dealership offer us $6,000 less than CarMax did?
Oh - and come Monday the Ford representative renigged on the offer to reimburse us for the loss of use of the vehicle - and offered instead to swap us into another one. We didn't really want to start this nightmare again - but we were interested in whatever we could get. To swap us into a new on meant that we would pay depreciation, tax, title, license, delivery and dealer prep. Basically - we would have to pay several thousand dollars to be able to try our luck with another 2006 Ford Escape Hybrid.
We took $5,500 out of our retirement savings, paid down our loan - and sold the car to CarMax for $22,000. It's got 26 months left on the warranty - and they have more time to allow Ford to work on it than we do. I have bought a new Super Duty Ford truck every few years for the last 22 years. I spent just shy of $50,000 on my last one in 2003. This will be the last Ford that I will ever own - because of the way that not only the Ford dealerships treated us - but how Ford itself treated us. Ford has lost me as a customer, and they have lost anyone who ever asks me what I would recommend.
Until the new unit arrives, I will be filming my rides home with the on my video camera so they can see this problem actually exists.
One, what octane gasoline do you use?
Two, do you live or drive at a high altitude?
I live in Denver and Toyota hybrid owners here are having the same problem. After the software is updated for altitude the car should be fine. I however, I had the dealership update the software and I am still having the problem.
I started using premium gasoline not that long ago and have heard that cars at higher alititude will actually perform better with lower octanes. I'm going to switch gasolines and hope it helps. My fingers are crossed!
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Ford Escape Hybrid Group you will now find:
Ford Escape Hybrid Tire/Wheel Questions
Ford Escape Hybrid Safety Issues
New Ford Escape Hybrid Owners: Give Us Your Report
Ford Escape Hybrid: Brake Problems
Ford Escape Hybrid Suspension/Steering Problems
Changes You'd Like To See in the Ford Escape Hybrid
Escape Hybrid: Audio & Entertainment Questions
Ford Escape Hybrid: Driving Tips & Tricks
Ford Escape Hybrid: MPG-Real World Numbers
to name a few of the new discussions.
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