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1. 450h = Lexus reliability (we hate spending time at the shop, causing one or both of us to miss work and such a hassle to rearrange schedules), really liked the new exterior design, interior layout was very nice, rich leather, ample space, velvety ride, ultra quiet, expecially the hybrid version along with 30 mpg gas mileage, remote touch navigation is better than the others I tried, and just an overall upscale feel inside and out. It would have been nice to have a 3rd row option to use in a pinch and ports shouldn't be so hard to get to in the arm rest, but otherwise this car fit the bill in every way. IMO, it's perfect for a family who needs an all-purpose luxury car to commute to work, run daily errands, take the kids to school, take the family on a 1,000-mile road trip for the weekend, and then show up to a black-tie dinner.
2. Acura MDX/RDX - great reliability. However, while the handling was a touch better than the RX, the ride is not nearly as refined, there's more noticeable road noise, and the transmission is not as smooth. I didn't like the "bagel slicer" front grill and the controls were a bit too busy looking. This was tied as our 3rd place car.
3. Audi Q series - really nice handling, but that's about where it ended. Reliability was a major issue for us, and although Audi's record in that department has improved somewhat over the past few years, it's not reached Lexus reliability. Interior was not quite to the level of the Lexus. This was tied for our 2nd place car.
4. BMW X series = on par with Audi in terms of handling, but road noise was pretty loud and interior was not even close to the other brands. Ride was on the harsh side. 3rd row option was nice though. Reliability is better than Audi and MB, but still not a Lexus or Acura. We liked the exterior design, but overall, it was never really in the running.
5. Cadillac Escalade/SRX - we test drove the Escalade once, and once was enough to know it wasn't what we wanted. Way too big, bulky, and pretty gaudy all around. The SRX was better, but we weren't at all impressed with the quality of the interior, the fit and finish, or the ride comfort. The exterior was a bit edgy as compared to the others, and we liked it.
6. Infiniti Fx/Qx - As with the escalade, the Qx was just too bulky for us, but it drove a lot smaller than the Caddy. As for the Fx, the design didn't really do anything for us, although we liked the interior and the ride quality. This was tied for our 3rd place with the Acura.
7. Land Rover - different, but that was about it. Reliability? 'nuff said.
8. Mercedes GL and GLK -- We really liked both of these. Alot. The GL's exterior is really striking, has an aggressive stance, although the interior could be nicer. Navigation needs to be improved big time. The M B Tex a.k.a. pleather, also was a turn off at this price point. But, unlike the other larger SUVs, this one drove really small for its size. This was our 2nd place car, and we probably would have bought it but for reliability history for the GL (not good, to say the least), and the poor gas mileage. If both of these improve in the next five years, we're getting this car. As for the GLK, if we went with MB, we would have gotten the GL over the GLK.
9. Porsche Cayenne -- test drove it once, was not impressed with the ride quality, then came back again in a month and confirmed it was not for us. Bouncy ride (better not put any hot coffee in those cup holders), jerky accelleration, just overall not a comfortable ride. I couldn't imaging taking it on a road trip of any significant duration.
10. Volvo XC series - a few years ago these would be high on my list. Since then, every other car on my list has equaled Volvo in the one category that Volvo used to be the leader in - safety. Who feels unsafe in any of the cars above? Once you get past the safety advantage, there wasn't much the XCs offered that wasn't surpassed by the other cars. Plus, the reliability has dropped off over the last few years.
11. Other cars never in the running -- Hummer, Lincoln, Hyundai.
Vish
Thank you very much for this forum and everyone that contributed and gave me an idea of price range.
This is one of the dealership in SOCAL.
Got $9160 below sticker price. The drive was worth it I guess. $44500 + tax.
We are torn between two cars - an Acura MDX with Tech and Nav or the RX450H. I am trying to see if we are at our best price or do I still have room get a better price. It's looking like we can get either vehicle for the same price - except the MDX will be a 2011 and the RX450H will be a 2010
We are looking at the RX450H with a 3 year, 35 month lease - 12k a year. Premium, Comfort, Navigation, parking assist.
The only money due at signing will be the 1st month's payment of $600. The monthly rate is $600 total - including taxes in Los Angeles.
Your thoughts? any more room to get a better deal?
Thanks for your help
2010 450H with Comfort and Premium packages, nav, and parking assist and chrome rims. Lease/Sell price was 43,500. Payment is $630 including tax, lic, and all fees...The only out of pocket was $300.00, for 3 years, 12k a year.
Hope it helps someone and I hope I did well
I dearly loved my Prius but changed to the Lexus 400h because the Lexus is significantly more comfortable, roomier, and safer. To me, it is worth the extra money.
Since I'm unfamiliar with this particular model, let alone a hybrid, I'm hoping members can share their opinions of value and pricing. Also, what sorts of major expenses can I expect in the next few years, assuming an annual mileage of 20,000?
I've looked on other sites to find out what the service intervals are, but wasn't able to see any major service needs. Have there been any TSBs that I should be aware of?
Question: Is it possible to obtain similar deals on models the dealer has to order? I assume you got such a great deal because it was in their existing inventory. I wouldn't mind paying a little bit more if I got exactly what I wanted through ordering my specific vehicle.
some of my relatives have used carmax for other cars...perhaps the Lexus could be lower this way? I use State Farm ins.... for cars and other coverages....my Lexus 2006 400h ins just went up compared to a Mazda 2008 hybrid Tribute.
My concern is the capacity of NiMH hybrid battery to hold charge (and be effective) in the long run.
My concern is the capacity of NiMH hybrid battery to hold charge (and be effective) in the long run. Is there any information available on miles or age of a car that affects the battery life?
Thanks
Dual DVD Rear Seat Entertainment
HDD Navigation System
NavTraffic™
Lexus Enform®
Leather-trimmed interior
Lexus Memory System
Power moonroof
USB audio input
Rear-armrest storage compartment with cover
Power rear door
Electrochromic (auto-dimming) outside mirrors
Heated and ventilated front seats
Rain-sensing intermittent windshield wipers with mist cycle
High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with Adaptive Front
Lighting System and dynamic auto leveling
Intuitive Parking Assist
Wood- and leather-trimmed steering wheel and shift knob
Roof rack - cross bars
Remote engine starter
Carpet cargo mat
Cargo net - envelope
RX450h AWD
Luxury Package
Comfort Package
Heads up display
LED headlamps
Mark Levinson sound system
Navigation
Park Assist
19'' Chromed wheels
MSRP of $64,000, selling price of $54,000.
Is it a good deal?
Thanks,
Is this a good price?
What options did you include?
What is the dealership, city, state?
I'm trying to decide between RX 450h and RX 350 - have opportunity to get a certified 2011 450h at about the price as new 2013 RX 350
I can PM you the details on dealership etc. if you'd like (this is in FL).
Typically 450h seems to be about 6+k higher than non-hybrid (and about 20HP more power).
2013s are nice though - plus 2013 RX350 takes regular gas (hybrids need premium) - saves you nealy 30c per gallon.
How many miles on the CPO 2011? (as you probably know already, CPO warranty goes 3 years from purchase date or up to 100k)
I wonder at the time of re-sale (arpprox 4yrs / 60k miles) if 450h will hold any part of the premium I pay today over the non-hybrid 350?
Eventually, I plumbed for a 2013 RX450h 4X2 w/ nav, premium pkgs etc and paid $50,975 + TTL + Reg for a OTD price of $54,210 (The MSRP of the car was $54,880). I also added a 7 yr/75K plat service agreement for $2,120 and got 63 months Lexus financing at 2.9%. Remember, this is for a 2013 4X2 vs. a 2012 4X4 so it's somewhat an apples and oranges comparison.
Good luck!
Vanze
What's a good price?
Can I get a good price using Consumer Reports buying service?
If not who?
Are there better deals for AARP or AAA members?
Vanze
Thanks
Previous deal was: 15k miles per year, $3k down plus inception fees of $1895.50, $599/mo., MF of 000.17, Base Cap Cost of $46,900
Looking for same deal or better. Can it be had or am I not living in a reality world?
This is for a Lexus RX 450h - 2012, not 2013 ? (You indicated you bought a 2013 and nearly $4k off MSRP is below invoice)
Where is this? (City, State)
Also, how do you like your hybrid? What kind of gas mileage are you getting?
Are any of these worth it?
First, of course, is the extended warranty. Extend the 4 year factory warranty to 8 years/75k miles for $2500. About $600 per year - $50 per month. They tell how complicated the cars are now and how expensive one single repair would cost after the factory warranty expires.
How about the Zurich Shield - protects the exterior finish as well as interior leather, mats, etc. $960. Supposedly if you get food stains that can't come out in your mats, they'll replace them. Leather cracks or gets stained, they'd fix them. Bird crap damages clear coat - they'd fix them. Good for 7 years.
What about the Paintless dent repair? Parking lot dents - repaired. But only dents that don't require a body shop to fix. They use DentPro who fix dents that don't require repainting. I've used them before - pretty good work. Costs me $100. This is good for 5 years and costs $290.
Anyone have experience in how good these are ? Are they worth it?
Thanks for your answers!
Before TTL, I paid $51,609.
Thanks,
Josh