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"mileage improved several miles per tank... "
08 Accord 4 door LXP. L4\177hp Took a trip up to Mass from NJ, two people 65/75mph full hwy. (always cruise control) and some good traffic back ups 26mpg, on the way back three people no traffic back ups 27.6mpg.
In my books thats horrible don't mean to beat the dead horse but I can't help from thinking about my 04 Malibu 4 door V6\200hp, 37mpg on the same type of run.
However that's what's good about leasing in 2 years the Accord is gone.
I'm just wanting "full strength" gasoline back because I'm a fairly spirited driver and the winter gas gets crappy mileage by comparison. All things being equal of course.
I can pull down 27 during the summer with a 60/40 city/hwy even when I'm being spirited. In the winter I'm lucky to get 23.
2003 Accord LX Coupe I4 Auto- 60802 miles.
This car still gets better mileage than my 95 Accord EX did. Slightly more powerful, but oddly enough it's about 100 lbs lighter. Explain that one.
Just filled up again. 24 and change. Gettin better. All time average, since Mar 08 is just above 25. I'd say I'm doing pretty well on target with EPA combined rating.
Nice to know that 500 mile+ between fill-ups is easily attainable. VCM was ever present and I don't mean by ECO light activity but small albeit noticeable drive train surges. I'd have to say on this trip with this type of fuel economy in a car as large as the 08 Accord is, the slight presence of VCM returned great dividends.
That's the same RPM that the 2003-2007 4-cylinder runs at that speed. The 5-speed allows engines to run at about 300 RPM lower than in the 4-speed. Makes a notable difference!
2007 I4 MT , 40 psi, 0w-20 Mobil One, 60,000 miles on odo.
BTW I just noticed that the new 2010 Camry has a 6 speed MT available and now gets 2 mpg better highway mpg than the Accord (they used to be rated the same). Very impressive. How about a 6 speed Honda so those of us with an I4 can get some real low revs on the highway and get really impressive mpg.
Let's hope they can push it into the next generation. Especially since not even 2 years ago I thought they should make 5 speeds standard because I was used to 4 speed autos. Then 5 speeds became standard. It's only a matter of time. My next Accord will probably be late gen IX or gen X. Hopefully by then I'll have a better grip on a manual so I can get a 6 speed, unless they put them in automatics.
We have 08 v6 EXL w/ nav (purchased April 08) and are only getting 20-21 based on the computer in the dash. We live in Boise, Id and drive city/highway but typically only 10 miles in one direction on the HWY. We use 87 octaine gas.
Has anyone else had this poor of MPG? Should I take it to the dealer and have them look into adjusting anything? The car has 9,475 miles on it... will the mileage get better over time?
Thanks for any insights.
All of these are factors have an effect on mpg, add them up and the effect is huge. To me a straight run means I don't stop even once. Just a few stops or hills make a difference. I can be 200 miles into a trip and a long steep uphill can drop my trip mpg by 1 or more.
One of the first questions I ask people who get poor mpg is how long do your brakes usually last? Quick wear means less mpg friendly driving. For example I changed the front pads on my Integra for the first time at 185,000 miles. My Accord has 61,000 miles in two years and I can hardly tell the pads are worn at all. Anticipate stops far in advance and just glide in.
For anybody who wants better mpg a scangauge will tell you exactly what the problem is. Another option is the new Garmins that are coming out next month. They have something called ecoroute that calculates the best route for mpg and if you plug in the EPA city and highway numbers it will take a guess at your mpg based on speed, stops etc. It will also grade your driving based on how smoothly you stop and start etc. I highly recommend this. If you have a current nuvi 2x5 or 7x5 it can be upgraded to the new software.
http://www8.garmin.com/buzz/ecoroute/
http://scangauge.com/
BTW - I forgot to add my latest lifetime mpg on my last post. Now at 33.80 mpg
I agree 100% !
Every item in your first paragraph are "Right On". I believe the brakes are the # 1 enemy of MPG in local driving. The more they are used, and the harder they are used, the worse the mileage. Of course, the throttle and how it is used are also great contributors to poor mileage.
On the road the throttle and speed are # 1.
We don't own an Accord, yet. But we do own an 03 CR-V. It is heavier and pushes a lot more air than the more aerodynamic Accord. Engine is the same tried and proven 2.4, and the tranny is a 4 speed auto. I would expect that the 5 speed auto would get a bit better mileage. With me driving locally, 25 mpg is fairly normal. On the road, 30-31 mpg is fairly routine. My wife gets 3-4 mpg less, across the board.
The CR-V is her car. At 40K +miles, the front brakes and all 4 tires needed replacing. She is not a "Hard" or fast driver, but she tends to stop rather than coast to traffic lights and stop signs. From a stop, the tranny shifts at closer to 3000 rpm,for each gear, and she rides a bit close to the cars in front of her, requiring little braking on her part, but more on and off the throttle.
She likes to go a bit faster, on the road, than I do. So mpg is less.
Also agree about the "Scan Gauge". Wonderful tool.
Kip
This is on our 2008 EXL navi 4 cylinder 5 mt.
About 70% city and 30% hwy.
Not bad, imho.
Course, it's spring, and so we're not using the ac much. In summer I assume it will go down a couple of mpg.
I try to get into those top two overdrive gears ('05 6M coupe) with all possible haste. And y'all can see the resultant...................
all the best on this Memorial Day weekend, ez.......(USNR)
best, ez.........
Do you mean subtract 2.5 for the ethanol - ? It is my understanding that Ethanol is 30% less efficient than traditional gasoline.
This was over 8 days including all my running around town for that time, and included two trips. One of about 125 miles round trip and the other about 430 miles. The second leg of the 430 mile trip was from Bismarck to central SD and I averaged 47.0 for the entire 220 mile day (a few miles of city as well). My average speed on the trips was about 60 mph (mostly two lane rural roads) and I did not use AC. Temp was about 68 to 74.
Overall. 647.7 miles 15.60 gallons = 41.5 mpg The fuel light came on at 608 miles. I also think I overfilled a little as the scangauge indicated 42.4 for the tank and I put in 1.2 gallons after the pump clicked the first time on the slowest fill setting.
Lifetime is gong to crack 34 for the first time real soon. It is 33.96 right now.
10 tank rolling average is at 36.9 mpg
2007 I4 SE MT 40 psi and Mobil 1 0w-20, 62,000 miles.
Seriously, great job: 47 mpg is advanced technology territory these days. Few can (or deign to) accomplish 45+ MPG.
In summation (after recently Road Testing a 2008 Infiniti G37 6M coupe "on sale" for six grand off MSRP):
Leaving the dealership with 'Let me alone to think about this test drive" - - - - I headed south - two lane, deserted country road - straight as a arrow. The J30-A4 rarely dissapoints. This time was no exception. Add the 40 MPG potential: The AV6 6M remains for now.
Hang in there..........best, ez....
That new Camry I4 with a 6MT throws a little salt in the wound.
all the best, ez....
My last tank was 25.3. Overall still very impressed considering the size of the vehicle and the way that I drive.
62,9xx miles and counting.
The EXL 4 drive was smooth - drove like an upsale touring model. And for those that haven't noticed the benefits of Grade Logic - drive the Smokey Mtn's - it's a fantastic feature.
All highway/4 passengers/trunk full of luggage - 100 miles at 60-65 mph rolling hills...340 miles of interstate at 80 mph all with AC on. 440 miles/11.2 gal (regular)
I typically get 28-29 on my daily 30 mile DC commute. :shades:
I'm not quite impressed with the mpg; I am used to crushing the EPA estimates. Even with my V6 Double Cab Tacoma I was getting 22ish mpg. My driving habits are fairly light on the pedal, but maybe I was a little eager to test out my car on the first few miles.
So my question is, have people noticed an increase in mpg once the engine is "broken in" per se?
Thanks!
I didn't notice any change on my 06 EX-L I4 but many people have posted that they get better mileage as the engine gets broken in. Besides that, you really can't judge a half tank of gas, especially the first one. Did you fill it or did the dealer? They aren't always as accurate as you might be.
Keep us updated.
Give it time and you'll be busting charts. and as always thanks to "thegraduate".
06 EX-L w/Navi I4 manual
And, what can I say, I like being told I'm right once in awhile.
Enjoy the car!
-thegrad