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Toyota Corolla Real World MPG

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  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    edited December 2011
    Dude we regularly get 35MPG on our RAV4 on the highway at 55-60 mph.
    It's EPA ratings are 22-28.

    This us a much heavier car with a lot more frontal area and lot larger engine. than the Corolla.
    Surprising enough at 55-60 mph our Honda Ridgeline gets 26-28 mpg on the road. It's EPA is 15-20 mpg.

    With the RAV4 and the Ridgeline the mileage dash gauge, and at the pump calculations, are extremely close. Generally the dash will be 1/2 -1 mpg optimistic. Sometimes it will be slightly pessimistic.

    And yeah, I've been calculating milesge at the pump for 52 years, so I have a general idea on how to do it.

    In an earlier post, I said the mileage we got on a rental Corolla. I have no problem believing mileage with the Corolla to be in the 40s on the road. With reasonable weather and driving techniques.

    Not hard to improve on EPA mileage with the proper mindset.

    Kip
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    Far from "physically impossible"! I can get 40 plus mpg on the highway driving at 65 mph with the A.C. on, so I don't doubt 45 mpg at all. By the way, that's with calculating mpg 100 % accuracy to the hundreth of a gallon and a tenth of a mile.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,448
    45 mpg is very possible in a Corolla. I can get that in my Accord occasionally if conditions are perfect and I drive just under 60 mph. My lifetime average is 34.8 (over 123,000 miles)

    My father has a Prius and his lifetime average is about 57 mpg. If you drive correctly excellent mpg is not hard to achieve.
  • Could it be imperial gallons? That would make somewhat of a difference.
  • The Day I took over my car the temp drop to -30 degree Celcius. I have been warming my car a lot and the block heater is plug in when car is not driving. I just filled gas after 15 days of city driving. I got 470Km out of 42 Liter of gas. About 31MPG.
  • caazcaaz Posts: 203
    OBYmagnus.. Lets get the facts straight. I drive E V E R Y week from phoenix to Orange county, and back again for work. With my 03 camry my highest ever mpg was 40.058, a much bigger car, can Highonreef get 45.1? Absolutely. Let me explain Los Angeles to Palm springs is primarily downhill , at least 60 % downhill. its the exact freeway i use when i did the 40.058 in the camry, Were at sea level, cars breathe easier. If i can get 40.. he can get 45.. i currently do this trip with my 2000 jetta tdi... 80 mph =43 mpg... but 65 mph = 68.7 (my best tank ever) . And he did his 45.1 @ 67 exactly where my camry and jetta get their best Mpg. Come to sea level and try it for yourself, I gurantee you'll hit mid 40's with a corolla.

    Caazguy
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I don't think downhill gas mileage is what we're really trying to compare of this thread. "Real World MPG" would lead me to believe average mpg. at an average speed, not 80 mph. I don't believe cars are like humans and breathe easier at lower altitudes either, is there any factual evidence to back this up?
  • caazcaaz Posts: 203
    If you read his thread, highonreef stated he went both directions. from Los Angeles to Palm springs and back again. So his gas mileage was an average of both up and downhill. Obviously theres alot you dont know beside what Air will do at sea level.... Ask car and driver or road and track. They'll both tell you its true. my cars are all faster 0 to 60 in calif then they are in Phoenix. Another thing you dont know about calif. EVERYBODY drives 80 mph on the freeways, lol. I do that speed all the way to phoenix EVERY week. and i might add get passed up by several caravans of cars at that speed. So i'm not sure where you live, but this IS our real world, these are our averages in both mpg and Speed. Youd dont drive that fast in so calif. you'll get run off the road.

    caaz
  • If anything gas mileage will be lower at sea level because there's more wind resistance.
    However the higher air density will allow the engine to "breathe easier" with more power available.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    Less power due to thinner air at higher elevations, but thinner air equals less wind resistance and better mpg at higher elevations.
  • I'm getting 39.1 average for the last 3200+ miles/2 months combined city/highway. I'm impressed!
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    Wow, that is awesome! My driving is split evenly between highway and city and I never can't get better than 25 mpg with my 2009 Corolla XLE; but just on the highway I can top 40 mpg. I've had many Corollas and my top combined mpg. seems to always be around 25 mpg. I love all Toyotas but especially my Corollas. Some day I hope to see either a convertible or a plug in Corolla. In the mean time I just drive my "91" Miata when I want to go "Top Down".
  • j06j06 Posts: 90
    95% city driving. Alot of stop and go... getting about 23 mpg.. on Highway with old bridgestone tires 35 mpg, after new hankook tires hitting close to 40 mpg.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I too drive about 95% city and get almost identical city gas mileage as you with all my Corollas. Like you said though, 40 mpg is no problem on the highway.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    edited April 2012
    On a long trip on 2 lane 55 mph roads, some, but not many traffic lights, light winds, using AC, 60 degrees, I averaged 40.8 mpg in a 2010 Corolla.

    100% City, approx. 29 mpg, but my city is different than yours, so it is hard to compare.

    Some complain about not getting good mpg, but there are so many variables about how and where you are driving. Most people are doing 70 mph + on the highway, which drops mpg considerably for ANY car, and they have lots of stop and go, etc., etc. that they forget about.

    Bottom line - Corollas get EXCELLENT MPG, better than most other cars in it's class. Consumer Report's real world mpg tests rate the Corolla # 3 in it's class, beat by a Hybrid and the VW Jetta TDI. I'd say that is really good.
  • Been considering trading my 2005 Corolla for a 2012. Looks like the 2012 model is over 200 pounds heavier than the '05. Other than the addition of electric power steering, I don't see how the mileage can match the '05 with what looks to be the same engine. Am I missing something? With the 5 speed manual I am averaging 39 MPG year round with a 50/50 mix of driving.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,770
    If you would be trading mainly for the chance to get better fuel economy, I doubt that you'll get better than 39 mpg in mixed driving on the 2012. That is excellent for ANY non-hybrid car.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    OMG no! You'll never get 39 with a 2012. I have a 2001, 1992, and a 2009 Corolla and I only get 24 mpg city consistantly with all three of them.
  • I had a 2001 Corolla LE for almost 11 years, sold it a few months ago and bought a 2012 Yaris LE -

    My Corolla was (and still is I'm sure) a good little car, very dependable, I got 30 MPG city pretty consistently for city and 39 on the hwy, just as the sticker stated. Only a few times over the 11 years did it get a mile or two below/above 30 mpg, the most I ever got was 32 mpg and the lowest was 28 mpg. When I got 28 mpg I checked my tire pressure and it was a little low.

    My new Yaris got 36.5 mpg (90% city driving) on my last tank according to my calculation, the onboard mpg computer said it was 35.2 (as I recall) - the sticker states 30 mpg city and 35 mpg hwy.

    So far I really like my new Yaris but that Corolla was a great car!
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    Well, minor tweaks in the tuning, gearing, and aerodynamics can get more mpg from basically the same engine block, even though the car is 200 lbs more than the 2005. The 2012 also has way more electronic control of the engine.
  • Thanks, I guess the city mileage will suffer the most with the extra weight when starting from a full stop. Once up to speed, I'm sure the improved aerodynamics would offset the weight penalty somewhat. I wonder if the electric power steering makes much difference?
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    Electric power steering improves mpg, but probably not more than 0.5 mpg. However, if you combine all these minor mpg improvements, it can start to add up. For as much as the Toyota haters like to complain/talk down about the Corolla, it really delivers excellent mpg, only beat by a diesel and a hybrid in CR real world mpg tests. Just wait until the next generation comes out, no doubt with a 5 or 6 speed auto and (hopefully) a 6 speed manual, along with many other improvements. Then, it will have even better mpg.
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I have plenty of Corollas right now, a Miata MX5 and a Plymouth Voyager; I told myself no more vehicles until they debut a Corolla "plug-in". I guess we'll be talk'in Miles Per Kilowatt Hour then.
  • 1999 non-VVTI 5-speed Stick averaged 28MPG city (NYC) and 40MPG Highway in the winter.
    1999 Non-VVTI 5-speed Stick Averaged 26MPG City (NYC with AC on) Highway 38MPG with AC on.

    2003 Corolla LE 5-speed Stick shift Averaged 30MPG city (NYC) and Highway 46MPG
    2003 Corolla LE 5-speed Stick Shift Averaged 28MPG city (NYC With AC on) Highway 43MPG with AC on.

    If you drive it like you stole it you get roughly 26mpg average in the 99 and 30 average in the 03.

    Ultimately the 99 was more comfortable to drive in, better seating position and better quality materials on the interior.. so while the 03 was better on gas, id take the 99 due to comfort.. I'm convinced the 03 was designed for monkeys... short legs and long arms..
  • hoopitup2000hoopitup2000 Posts: 46
    edited May 2012
    How fast are you driving on the highway; 50 MPH?

    Sorry, but I can't imagine the '03 Corolla is averaging those numbers at realistic highway speeds. The '05 is only 28 pounds heavier & averages 40-42 MPG at 65 MPH under ideal conditions. I've only seen 45 MPG once in almost 7 years & it was likely a calculation error.
  • I am in the hoopitup camp. I own a 2005 Corolla LE auto. fueleconomy.gov says 31.5 mpg average with 61 samples. I am averaging between 34 and 34.5 in with about 75% highway driving. I suspect that the 5 speed manual would yield about 2-3 more mpg. I live in So Cal. I think that the people claiming 45 mpg are cherry picking specific runs with mostly highway miles at slow speeds and maybe even downhill terrain.

    Don't buy a Corolla automatic if you are expecting more than ~ mid 35 mpg with mostly highway driving.

    My highest ever was 90+% freeway driving with no traffic slowness and yielded about 37.4. I suspect the car is capable of 38 with the cruise control on driving 65-70 on almost 100% highway driving.

    If you driving suburb city driving in a planned community then you can probably expect around 30 mpg. If you are driving in a dense urban area, it is going to be much lower (26 or worse).
  • terceltomterceltom Posts: 1,017
    I could imagine 45 under ideal conditions driving at speeds of 55 mph. By your own example of seeing 40-42 mpg at speeds of 65 mph getting 45 is not unlikely because your best mpg occurs at speeds of 55 mph.
  • tucson_miketucson_mike Posts: 11
    Early on, I thought I was getting about 39mpg on by 2006 corolla manual. But then I calibrated my odometer and found I needed to adjust its reading by about 0.97 for the effect of my tires being worn down. So for instance, going by the mile markers on the interstate, I found a 100miles by those markers showed 103 on my odometer. Since the tires were physically a little lower diameter, they had to rotate further (picked up by the odometer) to get the same distance. A 3% decrease in circumference is less than a 1% decrease in tire height is another way to say it. Making that adjustment got the mpg back to about 38mpg.

    Once I got new tires, had to go the other way slightly, and increase my recorded odometer by 1%.

    Anyway, it is great to see super high mpg. Where you are getting that, check if your tires are worn down a bit and calibrate the odometer reported to actual miles is an easy adjustment to take that estimate out of the range of reported results.
  • Great observation Mike!! I'm wondering if this is common on the Corolla?

    I discovered by accident that my odometer is off by 2 miles every 100 as well. To confirm this, I re-checked on another roadway to make sure the mile markers weren't to blame. Still off by 2 miles every 100 on an interstate highway.
  • I'm considering purchasing a new Corolla. The listed mileage isn't that great (26/34). Current car is a Civic and it easily gets 30-32 city during the warmer months. So...I don't want to go down a lot but like the Corolla. What is the real world mileage in the city (where I do most of my driving)? What about highway? I see many reporting close to 40, but they have older models, which seemed to be given higher mpg ratings. Thanks!
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