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Ford Freestyle Maintenance and Repair

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  • carstenbcarstenb Posts: 37
    sorry, the title was a bit misleading. i was just talking about the one mount but found those three names for it.

    it's the one shown in the link in my first post.

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    the car's just back from the repair. $214 for the part (it is huge and includes the aluminum bracket) and $306 for the work :(

    the problem seems to be that if that one fails the other rubber mounts are going to fail soon as well.

    oh, the master brake cylinder was replaced as well. the brake pedal feel got really mushy over the past months and made a squeekie and grinding sound. fortunately that was covered by the ESP...
  • coldcrankercoldcranker Posts: 877
    OK, the Roll Restrictor is part number 6F055, thats the one you mean.
    I just looked at mine, 4 years and 51,000 miles in a Colorado 6,000 ft altitude climate, and it looks 90% new. Just a few millimeter-sized cracks starting on the intake manifold side, and zero cracks on the battery side of that chunky rubber bushing.

    Seems very cold weather could make it brittle and susceptible to cracking, or a manufacturing material rubber formula defect could make it crappy, too.

    Are you in a cold climate? Although mine is garaged at night, it has seen a few single digit Fahrenheit temps and doesn't show the excessive aging/stressing yours has.

    It would be nice if they made that piece of rubber replaceable, but they make you buy the whole aluminum bracket, too.
  • carstenbcarstenb Posts: 37
    thanks for looking that up. No, Houston is not really cold, more the opposite ;)
    I'd speculate that the poor and bumpy roads put some stress on the rubber :sick: Or my wife's driving style ;)
    The technician said they've changed the part number so the new ones might be more durable.

    I agree, it would be much easier and cheaper to just replace the rubber piece. You need to remove many parts to get to the bolts at the bottom of the bracket and the part seems to be only available through Ford.
  • coldcrankercoldcranker Posts: 877
    From carstenb's excellent pictures, both above and on his links to the myfordfreestyle web pages, it looks like the problem is the rubber formulation. I've worked on a few antique cars ('41 Chevies, etc.) and it looks like the small cracks in the high resolution photos, and crumbling bits on top of that, indicate this thing aged very quickly. Once aged, turning brittle, it then gave way and thats why we see the big cracks. This part opposes engine torque, so every time the car accelerates, the rubber in there gets stressed. Of course, Ford says its past warranty so there is no hope there.
  • every time i use the cruise control the wrench light comes on and my rpms go up and my speed goes down like 6000rpms at 30mph i pull over and shut the car off it run fine as long as i don't use the cruise can any one help me with this problem with my 2006 thanks
  • I cannot clear the "change oil 0%" message permanently. I can reset using the controls on the wheel, however, the message reappears when re-start the engine. Can anyone provide guidance?
  • Your engine computer is storing down codes that probably are telling exactly what is wrong. An Autozone parts store can tell you what the engine computer is saying (for free, or at least they used to do that). Or, any mechanic has a "scan tool" to read the codes off the engine computer. Ask them to plug the OBD2 Scan Tool in to your connector located under the steering wheel, which communicates with your engine computer and gets it to tell the story. Then, you can google the code numbers and/or just let a mechanic take care of it.
  • jolo3jolo3 Posts: 1
    I need to replace a brake light and I can't remove the lamp housing from the back of the car. I have removed the two screws from the inside of the door but the housing still appears to be attached. I'm not sure what it's stuck on but I'm afraid of applying full force and breaking something. Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas? Thanks!
  • cmunizcmuniz Posts: 604
    I believe the housing pivots to the outside instead of coming completely off. Grab the inside vertical edge and see it will swing out on the outside vertical edge.
  • haulthault Posts: 124
    I have a 2005 Freestyle. After removing the two screws it "pops' out. Go by Autozone, O'Reilly, Autosource. They can show you for free. I have replaced my rear bulbs more than once.
  • What was the final resolution to this problem? Did you get a new accelerator or PCM? I'm having the same issue, it's out of warranty.
  • I am looking for anyone who would be willing to take ford on, this cvt issue needs to be addressed and I want to see how many people actually have an issue with this. I am willing to take this to an investigative reporter.

    I bought my car brand new 34,000 the tranny goes, 2 years later AGAIN! They say this is not a saftey issue, but that is ridiculous! I was going to pull out on the highway and my car would not go...then I got out and had to stop on the highway and I went to go and had my foot all the way to the floor and it crept along! What if? I crept out on the highway with my whole family in the car and a mack truck was coming?! How is that not a saftey issue!

    They took the CVT out of the newer models...obviously it is an issue and for those of us who bought a freestyle with the CVT in it are paying the price..

    I want to be compenstated for this, I don't think I should have to put a USED tranny in my vehicle...I had a brand new one and look where that has gotten me! Whose to say this is not going to happen again...next time I might not be so lucky!
  • I am looking for anyone who would be willing to take ford on, this cvt issue needs to be addressed and I want to see how many people actually have an issue with this. I am willing to take this to an investigative reporter.

    I bought my car brand new 34,000 the tranny goes, 2 years later AGAIN! They say this is not a saftey issue, but that is ridiculous! I was going to pull out on the highway and my car would not go...then I got out and had to stop on the highway and I went to go and had my foot all the way to the floor and it crept along! What if? I crept out on the highway with my whole family in the car and a mack truck was coming?! How is that not a saftey issue!

    They took the CVT out of the newer models...obviously it is an issue and for those of us who bought a freestyle with the CVT in it are paying the price..

    I want to be compenstated for this, I don't think I should have to put a USED tranny in my vehicle...I had a brand new one and look where that has gotten me! Whose to say this is not going to happen again...next time I might not be so lucky!

    If you don't have and 05 but you have a cvt issue please post year too please. Thank you!
  • Here is my posting #1051 from 9/2007 and below it #1059. Read the posts from the naysayers with their heads in the clouds. They said I was in the minority with my issues. Pretty big minority!

    #1051 We really liked our 2005 Freestyle when we first got it but then the problems started. At 16,000 miles the CVT (continously variable transmission)failed. The dealer replaced with a remanufactured CVT. I'm at 40,000 miles and there are problems with the CVT again. Now Ford is renaming the Freestyle the Taurus X for 2008 and it comes with a 6-speed automatic transmission (they no longer offer the CVT). The rear brake pads and one rotor needed replacing at less than 20,000 miles. I complained that it was premature wear. The service tech agreed but said there was no recall so I had to pay over $400 for brakes. In July 07 I received a recall notice about premature wear of rear brake pads and rotors, and I need new brakes again. Who knows what is going to go wrong next.

    #1059 This was a problem I forgot to post (see #1051). My battery died at 22,000 miles. No warning signs. I stopped at a gas station on the way to work and it wouldn't start after I pumped the gas. It couldn't be jumped so I had to pay through the nose for a new one on site. There is enough lock protruding for your kids to manually unlock the doors and the front doors unlock when you use the handle.
    To recap, at 40,600 miles the CVT has been replaced twice, the brakes and rotors have been replaced twice, and my battery needed to be replaced. Any of you believers want to put your money where your mouth is and buy my Freestyle? I've done the research and this vehicle has more issues than a model normally has. A car manufacturer doesn't change the name of a vechile and re-engineer it (transmission) if it has been reliable. I'm trading it in for a Toyota Sequoia.
  • We should try to put together a class action suit.
  • My problems with my 2005 Ford Freestyle are long gone. I traded it in for a 2008 Mazda 5 in March of 2008. It had the first signs of the CVT problem as I was told that the CVT needed to be replaced.

    I had bought Fords exclusively since 1990 owning a 1990 Probe, 1992 Ford Escort, 1993 Ford Ranger, 1997 Ford Explorer, 1998 Mercury Mountaineer, 2000 Ford Focus, and the 2005 Ford Freestyle. Never again Ford!! I didn't want a new vehicle, but had little choice. The dealer I bought the Freestyle from also had 2 other CVT cars with the same problem and were fighting with Ford. They were hoping that if they got their hands on my car, the 3rd car would help to give them leverage with Ford. The dealer got no where with Ford.

    Good luck with your lawsuit.
  • Ours is sitting in the garage because we can not afford to fix it with the way things are today. Ours too is out of warranty - over 100,000 miles. Perhaps if you start with the safety board. Please keep us posted as to your progress. Thank you.
    Have had it to two shops - only resolution is replace the transmission at 3500 +.
  • Does anyone know how to actually start a post, I want this to really be noticed and try to get as many people on the post as possible, I want to show the news reporter that this is a BIG problem!
  • I have an 05 Freestyle and lately when I am going under 30mph I can hear a whining sound from the tranny. Is this the problem you have had? I haven't taken it back to the mechanic yet
  • bruneau1bruneau1 Posts: 468
    The whining sound is normal if everyting else is working ok.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    yoyo123...How's your mazda5 in comparison to your Freestyle? I have an '05 FS with75,000 miles. No problems yet, but my extended warranty ends in Feb 2010 and I like the Mazda5. How much better MPG is your mazda5 getting in comparison to your FS? How about the space inside and the ride? Just wondering your views.
  • My family loves the car. It gets about 8 mpg more than what we got on the FS as I get anywhere between 24-28 mpg; usually around 26. I have 35k miles on it. I really like it for its reliability, gas mileage, sliding doors and perfect size. I love so many things about this car that there are too many to list. I would buy it again in a heart beat. But when someone asks me my opinion, I always want to point out the things I wish it had or didn't have. This is nitpicking, though:

    - tires are expensive to replace as they have a 50 aspect ratio.
    - it doesn't ride as smooth as the FS, but I enjoy that it handles better.
    - It will only accept a 1 1/4" hitch for my bike rack so I can only carry 2 bikes vs. 4 on a 2" hitch. Of course, if it could handle a 2" hitch, it would be a heavier car and then mpg would suffer. It's a tradeoff I have no trouble living with.
    - Mazda does not recommend towing with this vehicle and I believe it will invalidate your warranty if you do. I could be wrong on this, but I don't tow, so I don't worry about it.
    - brakes tend to "moan" when backing up when damp. I have read and been told that this is normal.
    - It has a fan for the rear seat, but it doesn't come directly from the heater/ac. It just helps circulate the air. It doesn't seem to take any longer to warm up the back seat occupants. I just asked my kids and they have no complaints.
    - It is smaller than the FS, but makes really good use of the space, so we haven't really noticed the difference except when going on vacation. I figured we can always buy a car rack and a storage compartment for much less than the difference between the cars. We haven't needed to, though.

    That's all I can think of. I have only taken it back to the dealer once and that was to replace a piece of missing interior molding that we noted when we picked up the car. We have had to replace the tires; 2 at 20k miles because I hit a pot hole and damaged one of the tires and the other 2 just last week because I didn't do a wheel alignment when I replaced the first 2. I hit a REALLY deep pot hole that I saw at the last minute. I am very surprised that I didn't flat the tire and do other damage. I won't write what I am thinking as that will jinx me, but let's just say that I am very happy with its quality.

    In summary, I love the car and would buy it again. Hope that helps.
  • The problem with the cvt issue is that can't even detect it! So I would tell you to have it checked, but if the engine light and the wrench light is not going on, then they can't run any codes! The whinning noise has been said to be normal, but who knows with these vehicles. You could ask them to run the codes, just to be on the safe side! Good Luck!
  • sindersinder Posts: 37
    I'm in nutabug....I'm ready to take on FORD !!! I have had it ! I am going to start a Facebook Group for EVERYONE with any CVT transmission problems. Facebook has over 200 millions users.....That's a start and we'll move on from there. I will contact you once I get the group up and running..
    Do you have a FB account?
  • haulthault Posts: 124
    I have 2005 49,000 miles. Only big problem was rear brake issue. I put ceramics pads on at 15000 before rotors were damaged and now have 49000. ford reimbursed eventually. Have not had any CVT issue yet. I heard Ford switched to 6 spd because it was cheaper to manufacture.
  • I do have a FB account. Keep me posted! My parents wanted to give me the money to fix it so I am in the process of fixing it for a 2nd time!! Unbelievable! It is so dishearting and I am so worried it will happen again and myself and my family won't be so lucky next time pulling out on the highway! I can't afford a car payment so I am STUCK!
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I'd say once it's fixed, go out an buy another car and sell your FS while it's running good. You really don't want to drive a car you don't feel confident in. How many passengers do you really need to haul around?
  • sindersinder Posts: 37
    Hi Bobw3,

    :lemon: You may be surprized to learn that many of us are STILL paying on our Freestyles. We are NOT particulary thrilled to have to walk into any deal completely upside down!
    FORD has the market cornered with the CVT's in the Freestyles.

    There is a right and a wrong in life....and people ought to know the difference.

    Now, I'm not trying to be rude, but what difference does it possibly make, how many people any Freestyle owneres haul around ?
    Whether it is a single owner, OR we deliver meals-on-wheels to the elderly..WE DESERVE to have a transmission that lasts MORE than 65k miles.

    How appropriate that you would suggest to "nutabug" to sell it whilst it is running good. Fairly confident it's going to "fail" again??? :sick:
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    "How appropriate that you would suggest to "nutabug" to sell it whilst it is running good. Fairly confident it's going to "fail" again??? "

    I mentioned selling it after it's fixed because nutabug indicated that they wouldn't feel confident driving it...it's not a good idea to drive any car you don't feel confident with.

    The reason I asked how many people nutabug hauls around is that if they are going to sell the Freestyle and buy another vehicle, maybe some money could be saved by buying a used, smaller vehicle.

    My comments we're in no way a defense of Ford. Generally it's a bad idea to put so little down payment on a car that you're "upside down" on it. Folks in that situation would be bette off buying a 2-3 year old model than brand new.

    And as several others have posted...individual failure instances don't necessarily point to a overall problem. For example, my brother had a Honda Civic engine fail on him at 70,000 miles (out of warranty). He'll never buy another Honda because of that experience. Does that mean that all Hondas are lemons because of that failure...it does to my brother! But you get my point.

    That being said, by all means go after Ford....good luck!
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,800
    "You may be surprized to learn that many of us are STILL paying on our Freestyles. We are NOT particulary thrilled to have to walk into any deal completely upside down!
    FORD has the market cornered with the CVT's in the Freestyles.

    There is a right and a wrong in life....and people ought to know the difference.

    Now, I'm not trying to be rude, but what difference does it possibly make, how many people any Freestyle owneres haul around ?
    Whether it is a single owner, OR we deliver meals-on-wheels to the elderly..WE DESERVE to have a transmission that lasts MORE than 65k miles."

    I actually sold my 2006 FS a couple of years ago, but mainly because I wanted a smaller vehicle.

    Ford has not "cornered the market". Anyone who wishes could set up a repair shop and get the parts from the suppliers by negotiating the prices and contract at the wholesale level. But there simply aren't enough ZF CVT units out there to make it profitable.

    I must point out that each auto manufacturer warrants a specific car part for a certain amount of time. In the case of the FS drivetrain, I think that is 50-60K depending on when you bought the car. This is the length of time that Ford, and each owner, agreed upon when the vehicle was purchased. I realize that people tend to expect longer periods, but any part on any vehicle is subject to breakdown. I'm sorry your FS tranny went bad, but it is not the result of bad design - the transmission is actually more reliable than most. But you, and the other people reporting problems here, got a bad one, or simply had some combination of bad luck.

    Good luck in your efforts to resolve the issue.
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