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My bet is that they will indeed do a V6 version. Why? Simple, because the 300, Magnum and Charger have at least one V6 option each and the Challenger is built off of the same basic platform. Assuming that they do indeed build a V6 Challenger, look for the price to be fairly competitive with the new Charger, which has a base price of around $22,000 with the 3.5 V6 (an engine by the way that is more powerful than the 318 V8 that was originally in my 1970 Challenger). The only potential bummer is that I seriously doubt that they'll offer the V6 with a stick shift. Of course, I don't really care as I'll be opting for a Hemi 6-Speed. ;-)
Best Regards,
Shipo
i thought so, too, but don't see it listed here on Edmunds (not that its the bible or anything, they certainly could be wrong).
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Best Regards,
Shipo
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I agree. But I think what they really need is a smaller, lighter body that wouldn't require massive horsepower to be fast. Here's the target I'd shoot for...3000lbs and 300hp. Power to weight ratio is the key. But when weight approaches 4000lbs, 300hp is no big deal.
i can tell ya that the site says no dealers have any in my state. Not that that means anything either. OH well. $38k is DEFINITELY out of my pricerange, anyway. would LOVE to test drive one, though.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Oh and I hope they keep the functional hood scoops on the production Challenger, at least on hemi-powered models.
I do like the New Stang to a degree, yet the front bumper looks like a big lip sticking out. The Challenger won't have the problem up front. Personally, I liked the '94 thru '04 era style wise for Mustangs, and would like to see some extra style added to the new one. The new Camaro looks good to me. The door window sills are climbing up, so I hope it doesn't have that confined feel to it, with the chop top roof line, like so many cars. I did drive a Tiburon, and kinda got use to its high doors, but some are just too much, like the 350Z which has the whole inside feeling like it is closing in on you.
Please no electric assist steering, throttle-by-wire, and all that new jazz. And please-please, a model with normal 16" wheels. Even 15" will do for me, thank you. I don't need wagon wheels, and their tire replacement costs. Make stability control and all that stuff as an option, and keep the price under $21K with air. Or $19K on sale within a year Would like an inline 6, but would settle for the V6 250HP Chrysler engine. Should be a better weight distribution than the monster engines. Smaller 8 would be nice too.
Loren
Please!!
For a few months. And then what?
More than likely the price will be in the ballpark of similarly equipped Charger.
what took so long? If you owned one this is your dream come true.
Loren
That being said, I am pretty stoked about this car's design, especially that totally gorgeous front end -- I hope that stays as-is. What would make it really rock would be a truly wide choice of engines and transmissions, including a high-efficiency, forced induction four-cylinder with a slick stick-shift and stripped-down interior.
I would also hope that DC would bring the turbo-diesel available in European 300Cs to the Challenger... That would be my choice, funds permitting: plenty of performance AND exemplary fuel economy.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for every kind of high-output special-edition V-8 being made. I simply would never own one (though it's nice to know they're there).
The Challenger looks pretty good. That said, not sure what to think of replica cars. Perhaps something new would be better. No, doesn't mean the look of the old Challenger is not perfect, why must they go backwards to find something that looks interesting. In 1970 people were not looking for a 1935 model.
Something which looks as good as the old, with styling hints from the past would be cool. And it should come in under 3200#s
Loren
I feel a little different, really the exact opposite. I think Dodge has nailed it and the Camaro looks a over-done, like a cake from the Three Stooges, that too big and needs to be deflated look. It just looks bloated to me, with exaggerated lines, while the Charger just seems "right". It has that soul, captures what it means to so many whereas the Camaro just looks rushed, like an "Oh shoot!!! The GTO's tanking, Mustangs are selling like hotcakes, Chrysler revived the Charger and a Challenger is coming. We better get something out there quick!". Though the Camaro was supposedly being worked on before the Challenger concept, it just seems rushed. But like you, just my opinion. Hate to say it but the Challenger going to have me defect to DCX :surprise:
But am in agreement with you, I would be very happy if both hit the streets. All the same to you I'm joining Gramps.
And what the market demanded by the way. They've already dusted off and built one nameplate (the Charger) that looks nothing like its predecessor, and the hue & cry that it caused got the message through to DC loud and clear, "Dust off another nameplate and make it look markedly different from its predecessor at your peril."
Given that I have always been much more of a Challenger fan than a Charger fan, I'm very glad it was the Charger they screwed up instead of the Challenger. ;-)
Best Regards,
Shipo
I thought we weren't supposed to state our opinions Colonel Klink ? :mad:
Sorry, but Chevy DID one-up Dodge with the new Camaro Concept. Nuf said.....
have fun with your Camaro
I luv cars, and I was way too young for the original muscle car rush, so I missed it. And I certainly can't afford a Barrett-Jackson price for one either. :sick:
My enthusiasm for the Camaro just can't be contained, Sorry !!!
The Camaro Concept absolutely gets it's roots from the original '60's vintage cars, rear drive, V-8, and lot's of horsepower ! Retro isn't a bad thing, but I appreciate some forward innovation in that styling too, and that's where the Camaro scores big for me.
When I fast forward to '09, I'm much more enthused at the thought of the Camaro Concept than I am of the Challenger, which in '09 will look just like a 39 year old car.
I don't want Chevy to carbon copy a '69 Camaro, and I'm let down that the best Dodge could do was dust off the dies from 1970. I think, no I know, that DCX can do better than that.
And boy, can these cars ever generate debate, huh Gramp's ?
I'll c'ya on Woodward in 3 years, O.K. ? Until then, I'll keep up the fight for the Camaro and you keep 'on fighting for the Challenger. At least we ain't talking about Toyota's and Honda's..........appliance's on wheels !
Sold car for one semester of college tuition. What a big mistake...even though I finished my master degree.
Whom would I talk to in order to be one of the lucky to drive the first dealers demo car in Baltimore MD.
I'm first on list to purchase... one hope is that the car would get more rear leg room. The current concept car shows with very cramped leg room. Would hope for more space in the rear seating area.
With joy in my heart .....can't wait!
ChallengerGal
And want to correct a mistake I put in my post. I meant to state "Challenger" instead of "Charger":
while the Charger just seems "right". , should have been "...Challenger just seems right...it's got soul..."
Sorry for the confusion! :confuse:
if you don't think the magnum and 300c have a bit of retro in them, you have an odd way of analyzing style.
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The Magnum is supposed to be retro what ? Dodge Monaco wagon ?? Because it sure has nothing to do with the Dodge Magnum of the late 70's or early '80's. It's just a station wagon w/ a Hemi available under the hood.
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I don't recall the Magnum being called "retro" I was under the impression that "retro" title went to the Charger and of course now the Challenger (which if it's priced over 35,000 grand will only sell in very limited numbers and wil not last).
It's just a station wagon w/ a Hemi available under the hood.
And just what's wrong with that?
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That said, I do think many of them are cool. I like the Challenger, although I think it's too much like the Lambo Miura concept and the new Mustang in that it's nearly identical (looking) to the original, rather than a modern take. Yes, the engines are doubtlessly more efficient and the handling's much better, but it would be nice if they weren't simply so retro and a little more original. They're a bit too SAFE in their styling. Same with the Mini and the new Beetle, all of which I like very much, but they're pretty conservative. No risks, like Hollywood, which continues to simply do remakes of old TV shows (Dukes of Hazzard, Miami Vice, and they're even contemplating Mr. Ed).
Of course they're all better than the Malibu, which is a disgrace to its name.
And to completely defeat my entire argument, I LOVE the Magnum. Big and obnoxious the way it should be, although it's a V8 that at least TRIES to be responsible by cutting back to 4 cylinders when it needs to. Also, the Magnum is a station wagon, which in my book is 1,000 times better than an SUV. It's qualified as a passenger car, so it needs to meet fuel and safety standards that "light-truck" SUVs can ignore. Also, it's lower so it's easier to see around and more maneuverable. Brand-new but with cool styling and MAD performance.
Two more names you left out of your flop list are the Impala and the Monte Carlo.
**What's wrong with Miami Vice** :P
I agree that the Camaro concept is nice looking and resenbles the '69 with same fresh touches.
But I think your missing the point when you say that say that DCx can do better than the Challenger that you can see at the Chicago Auto Show today! The car looks familiar, but the dimensions are all different. And it promises to have modern technology. It doesn't get any better than that!!!
Somebody at DCX thought the 2006 Charger was the right way to go. I don't think so. The styling cues are not retro. This Dodge looks more like a Mercedes than a Charger. Yeah it has round headlights. Yeah, the rear side glass has a shape familiar to the original 66 and 67 Charger, but that Charger was so homely that the body was completely redesigned for 1968. The 68 through 70 models are the true classic Chargers. The 71 through 74 models were really nice, too. Compared the these beauties, the 06 Charger looks like a brick. So much for "innovative" styling.
When I get my kids through college, the Challenger will be top on my list, but I won't ignore the Camaro if that goes into production -especially if GM makes it look more like the original '69.
And a word to GM and Chrysler - I'll pu my money where my mouth is!
I'm puzzled at this mis-statement, and I wouldn't call these cars flops, as they are both selling well, especially the Impala, it's consistently outselling the Charger and 300 combined. And just yesterday, Consumer Reports gave both of these Chevy's a "Recommended Buy", as they have outstanding quality and reliability. GM does produce good product, but they get zero credit for their efforts.
I do wish these Chevy's were rear drive, especially now that you can get the small block V-8 in both. Maybe the next generation Chevy's will return to rear drive.