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Hyundai Sonata vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry vs. Ford Fusion
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Now, the Fusion (or Ford) has a serious built in handicap with me that the Japanese cars don't have. I'd wager there are many more consumers like me that would say why take the chance on a Ford.
Sonata could end up being a great car with no problems. Kinda like CamCords have been for the past umteen years. But their heritage is against them. In a few years we'll know. I'd wait til the verdict is in before buying a Hyundai. Anyone can crow about their new car being great. Who's gonna say they just bought a new car and they don't like it?
http://www.ajac.ca/english/ccoty/2006/press_release/category_winners.asp?lang=1
1st place Sonata.684.8pt
2nd plcae Jetta 652.1pt
3rd place Fusion 639.4pt
This discussion is about the Sonata, Camry, Fusion, and Accord, not government representation.
Sure the Sonata seems to be a good car. But the true test will be in a few years when the real world has affected the car. Will the Sonata hold up?
I know my Accord has fared well, but so has my brother's Cadillac. And my friends Volvo. Most cars are good nowadays, provided they're maintained correctly.
Toyota and Honda have passed the tests to be in my garage. Ford has failed. Sonata is a maybe (never owned Hyundai). Lets see how it is after the 06 has been out for a year or so.
Speaking of Ford trannies, I had to get mine replaced in a '90 Sable at 93K miles. Between that and numerous other problems (esp. A/C), I'd pause long and hard before buying a Ford again.
caused by negligence, both by manufaturer (in England)
and oil filter installer. I have a CRV, and 9000 miles,
no fires. I did ask for the gasket at first oil change,
and it was given to me in good shape.
Ford is another matter. :-) They never own up to their
problems until forced by the government. At least
Honda diagnosed and corrected their problem without
being forced by the government.
that great for their first 15 years.
And Toyotas weren't any dream car either. I remember
my first Toyota well, since I had to learn how to
do a tuneup every 1000 miles due to the poor design of
points and distributor.
You must be too young to remember also when anything
Japanese was sneered at as being JUNK. I guess
they overcame their "heritage".
My Ford Auto transmission lasted exactly
46K.
When reviewing a car, no one can be objective. Everyone has their own bias. When looking at reviews, a better way to approach them is to think of it as a suggestion.
Also, you may think it is unbiased because it's supporting your opinion.
LOL you're funny. Who appointed you as the ultimate authority of everyone else's aesthetic sense? What do you mean "period"? They are entitled to their opinion just as much as you are. And for your info, there are a lot of people on this board alone that preferred other car's styling over Fusion's.
So... somehow Hyundai had more money to pay these corrupted Canadians than FoMoCo or VW did huh?
And after reading this forum you'd think Toyota and it's Camry is on the ropes or something.
Every review I have come across supports my statement. Can you show me just one review that says the Sonata has a more appealing exterior than the Fusion?
about 6 grand more than my GLS V6. Let's see what
I got for 6 grand less:
Fog lights
5yr, 60K warranty + 10yr on pwertrain
But I didn't get the moonroof. SO the options are about
a wash. So basically you are paying 6K for the straight
H instead of a slanted one.
And I like Hondas, traded a 2000 Accord LX V6 for my
2005 CRV. But that 2000 even cost 2K more than
what I paid for my 2006 GLS V6 Sonata.
After driving both I would have felt like a fool
to spend the 6K for the prestige of the straight H.
But, each to his own.
To answer your question with a question, what reviews have said Fusion has a more appealing exterior than a Sonata?
Hondas and Toyotas aren't the top two midsize cars in sales because they are crap or out-of-date. You can't ignore the numbers. Ford and GM ARE dropping because they are both.
Most people will have varied opinions. Every once in a while a car comes along that EVERYONE agrees is beautiful or ugly. Certainly the Aztek comes to mind for the latter. OTOH, some people actually bought them, maybe in spite of the styling. :confuse:
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I'm happy you're happy you don't feel like a fool. Price isn't everything. When I buy my 16 year old a 3 year old Honda for her first car I won't be thinking about the dollars as much as the feeling I've bought her a good auto.
Actually, a lot of GM and Ford's sales are from fleets. It seems Honda out sells Toyota in retail sales for both the Corolla and Camry.
18K, which is what I paid for my Hyundai with 6
airbags, stability control, traction control,and ABS,
none of which the Honda will have at that price.
But she'll have the staight H. Hope
that keeps her from rolling over the first time
she oversteers.
I asked my daughter and her friend about a car when reaching age 16, mentioned a Hyundai, and in unison they screeched "ewwwww".
A coworker frowned at me and another friend brushed off the Hyundai suggestion. The straight H is accepted. The slanted H has a ways to go.
I'm considering the slanted H Sonata, but not too sure of its acceptance at trade in time.
Only if your a sheep. If your not get what you want not what others "think" you should get. You're the one who drives it not the others. And if your status with your friends is determined by what car you have your friends are snobs.
I'm considering the slanted H Sonata, but not too sure of its acceptance at trade in time.
Hyundais reputation is growing greatly, will that effect the value at trade in time? Only time will tell. But I have a 2000 Elantra wagon and it is valued at a little over 20% of what the sticker price was. A comparable Honda is right around 22%. Not a real big difference. I would think that the several thousand up front savings on the Sonata over the Accord would more than make up for it.
In short get what you want and forget about resale values (unless your going to dump it after a year or two).
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Hyundais are cheaper only because the company cannot maximize it's profit with comparably priced cars against comparably equipped Accords. The reason they cannot is because they simply don't have the history of quality and reliability that Honda does. Make no mistake, Hyundai *would* charge more for their vehicles if they felt the market would support it.
Hyundais have a bad reputation in the US, and rightfully so, for historical quality and reliability reasons, but I don't think anyone is here saying that Hyundai cannot or will not ever make quality, reliable cars. It seems to me that they've certainly bumped up their quality with their newer models; once they prove long term reliability is when I think you'll see more people start to come around. And once their long-term reliability is proven, Hyundai will surely raise their prices.
If image or sterotypes or gut feelings were not an issue in America then marketing would be a snap. People have hundreds of things that make them tick and buy certain products.
I think the Sonata is a nice car too but I agree it has to reprove itself constantly in America because of its company's previous, now better, reputation.
Not image/stereotypes/consumer behaviour theory, etc...
:P
The Sonata's interior must have a heck of a lot of problems other than the tipping seats and uncomfortable seating. Hyundai is replacing the Sonata's interior for the 2007 model..hmmm, only one year! I hope for the people who bought one that Hyundai had better luck in designing and engineering the rest of the Sonata.
HonToy rules!
I wasn't addressing leadfoot6s concerns about Hyundai. If you look at what leadfoot6 wrote his concerns were what others thought about it. I stand by what I wrote, if your status with your friends is determined by what car you have your friends are snobs.
Leadfoot6's other concern about resale value I directly addressed.
Also your little snide remarks about "you're" and "your" and "their" and "they're" are way off the deep end and have nothing to do with what I wrote.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
HonToy rules!
I am not sure about that, while I will admit that they are good cars they have nothing that really turns my head. However Hyundai, Ford, and GM are starting to do that.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D