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As mentioned earlier, the current MPV is at the end of it's current life cycle, so it's safety features were designed 5 years ago (e.g., can't get side curtain air bags).
The 5 on the other hand is new (can't call it brand new anymore, cause it's been out for two years now), and based European and asian crash testing results, it's done quite well. Though I'm not sure why the IIHS still haven't tested the 5 yet.
We've owned our 5 for over a year now, and it's been great. The car handles well, we can sit six if needed, and it gets decent gas mileage.
Its smaller size was also a big bonus for us. My wife transition from a first gen CRV to the 5 without any issues. Where as she was very uncomfortable driving the Odessy and Sienna when we test drove them. Not to mention a year ago, I couldn't get an Odessy LX or Sienna LE for under $22k.
It all comes down to what you need. If you do a lot of local driving with a crew of 4 or less in an crowded area with small parking spots. The 5 is a good bet. If you have a crew of 4 or more, and need the extra space, I'd go with the Sienna or Odessy.
Good luck!
Shortly before the warranty expired, we got rid of it and bought the five. Better warranty (although I guess that's not true for the '07s), better airbags, better gas mileage, and we could get a 5-speed.
I'd buy another 5; I don't think I'd take another MPV no matter how good the deal.
What year was your van? I had read many postings about the transmission and had some worries about it but it seemed to be on older models. I saw that the MPV was a 5 gear auto and the Mazda 5 was only a 4 speed auto. I thought the 5 speed auto would let the engine rev lower and save gas plus make for a quite ride. thinking the 5 speed auto would Cause the engine to not work as hard as the Mazda 5's. I'm hoping the 06 year is ok. We test drove a toyota sennia and the transmission drove me crazy. It was horrible. Drove 2 of them just to see if it was a problem in just one van. It wasn't. It shifted back and forth and waited to long inbeweteen gears. The mazda didn't do that at all and was much smoother when changing gears. I'm 37 and have never owned an automatic transmission and the MPV seems to not drive me crazy. Most automatics due because I'm wondering why are they changing gears and I hate feeling the gear changes. I'm ok so far in the MPV. It also felt faster and more like a car then a van. That was one reason to go to the mazda's
Hears hoping I made a good decision with the MPV. any advise is always welcome.
Thanks! :confuse:
Love the car so far - people call it underpowered but they must not have driven my 97 Protege and its 92 horsepower 4 - now that's underpowered. I'm struck by how high the car actually sits - it's a good 10" taller than the Protege.
I'm 5'6" and didn't have any problem in the 3rd row. Though I do need to point out that it is not as big as a regular mini-van, and when you have the 3rd row up, there isn't much room for storage.
We've got two small kids (3 and 10 months), so the 5 works great for us. My wife also refused to drive a mini-van or large SUV, and the 5 is classified as a wagon by DOT.
But you may want to have only one of the older kids sit in the 3rd row. That way you could fold the other seat down, which would give you enough room for several grocery bags.
The 10yr old will easily be able to get to the 3rd row between the 2nd row seats, so even with car seats in both 2nd row seats, the 10yr old can access the back. The only thing is that with 1/2 the 3rd row folded flat for luggage, groceries, strollers, etc., all that stuff is going to be sitting right beside the 10 year old in the 3rd row, so you'll want to make sure you secure it somehow. Otherwise, you'll go around a corner too fast and all the groceries will be in the 10yr old's lap!
Would the mazda5 be your "big" car? To me the mazda5 is perfect for a family with 2 kids who occasionally need space for a couple of more people, but with 3 kids in it all of the time, if this is your "big" car, than to me it's too small, mostly because of the lack of storage space behind the 3rd row and I wouldn't want to have a 10yr old sitting in the 3rd row with a mountain of stuff ready to fall on him on a regular basis. But if you already have a bigger 3 row vehicle, then the mazda5 is also a great backup car, since you can always use the bigger one if you need the storage space.
Here's the mazda5 webpage. They do have a lot of picturs and videos, but it would have been nice if in one of the videos or photos they actually showed 6 people getting into the car.
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehi- cleCode=MZ5&campId=934
What are you currently driving now?
Thanks in advance,
Caroline
Rick K.
Check paper for Mazda5 loss leaders - I'd aim for at least $1000 under invoice for 2006s. Depends on how badly the dealer needs a sale to make the bonus at the end of the month.
Good Luck.
David
Something to keep in mind.
I researched buying Mazda5's to death as I love
a bargin.
If I was younger and desperately needed the money
I would have tried option #2 (buying a 2006 model).
But it needed lots of research. It boils down to
you can get a Mazda5 2007 Touring for $19700
or a Mazda5 2006 Touring for $19200-$1000
MAC rebate + Intersest paid.
I chose the former since I had to buy out of state
to get the 2006 model and issues regarding lemon laws
and PZEV became a problem.
Here is a two prong strategy I suggest.
Option 1 (The easy way which I chose).
You can get a Mazda5 2007 for about $400 above
the invoice now (January) since the car dealerships
are empty. For example, I paid $19700 for my Mazda
Touring. Sticker was $20675.
Caveat 1: Warranty? The 2007 model has a 36 month
bumper to bumper warranty and 60 month drive
train warrant. 2006 models have a 48 month bumper
to bumper warranty and drive train warranty.
Option 2. Try to get a Mazda5 2006 model. You can find
these by using mazdausa.com's inventory lookup.
You can get these from *some* from dealers upto
$3000 of the sticker. I managed to get one for
$1500 off the sticker.
Caveat1: Some of them have close to 600 miles on
them. Mazda recommends you drive the car carefully
for the first 600 miles.
Caveat2: The 2006 Mazda's were not PZEV so will not
be allowed in some states. Your responsible for
registering the car so if you mess up, you wasted $20K.
Caveat3: You may have to buy the 2006 from out of state,
research CAREFULLY if your state's lemon laws cover
you. For example, CA supreme court recently ruled that
if you buy a car from out of state CA's lemon laws
do NOT apply.
Caveat4: Read the Mazda5 forums carefully. Seems like the
2006 model had some teething issues (to be expected since
its a first year model) such as sticking latches, noisy
suspension etc.
2006 4yr 50K bumper to bumper and power train
2007 3 year 36K bumper to bu mper and 5 year 60K power train
I'm not sure which is better?
What else is different. Some specs put the 2006 max
torque at 3500 and the 2007 max torque at 4500.
He recovered quickly, but wanted to get a bunch of information about what I was looking for. He wrote down some things that I told him, writing down the model of my car wrong. I advised him my wife was in the car with my daughter, who was asleep. I hoped that since it was cold outside, this would help speed up the experience. We then went to look for a 5 to drive.
There were three in the back, all of them were open. He showed me how the car worked, but I think I knew more than he did about the car. I told him what I wanted to drive and he went in to get keys.
Came back and we got in the first car. The smell of cigarette smoke was overwhelming. Turned the key... wouldn't start. No problem. He had another set of keys. That 5 wouldn't start. He says, "let me go get the third set."
I said, "how about we try the locks/lights/etc. on it." Sure enough, it's dead too.
He goes to get someone to charge the battery. While I'm waiting, they appear to be talking under their breath about something and looking back at me. They try to charge the battery.... nothing.
So I say, "what about the 5 up front." They go to look. I can't test that one because it's not in inventory yet.
I'm told, "he's going to charge one up and bring it up for you to drive."
I go talk to my wife, wait. Walk back in. "Is he having trouble getting the rest of them to start?" My guy walks into a room with what appears to be three maintenance guys and a suit or two. A few minutes go buy behind closed doors and I see smiling and laughing. Finally, he comes out and says, "sit down".
"Can we make an appointment for you to come back? Unfortunately, he's got to charge up the battery and we won't have it ready to drive for awhile."
I guess my frustration showed on my face, and I said, "We'll have to talk about it, can I take one of your cards?"
He got a bit angry/perplexed looking. "Who will have to talk about it?"
"My wife and I."
"Well can we set a time? You're not mad at me? You know, sometimes this happens. Be honest with me."
"Well, I came here TODAY to drive one."
"I'm sorry about that, you know it is not my fault, right?"
"Yeah. My wife and I will have to talk about it." I gave him my phone number and took his card.
I looked at it as a sign that perhaps I need to find another dealership to do a test drive with. Sadly, there is only one other dealer in the area.
LOL!!
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This model is similar to the Touring model in the USA.
Victoria, BC, Canada
I did the deal without setting foot in any dealership. After getting info on the numbers from carcostcanada I emailed sales managers at 7 dealerships and got firm quotes from 3 and non-commital messages from 2 others. I spent a couple of hours on the phone back and forth between 2 dealers and got my final price just $500 over invoice.
Total to the penny before 13.5% taxes...$25,883 cdn.
I love the handling of this small van, sporty and responsive. I think the cost-performance ratio of Mazda5 is excellent. I have recommended this vehicle to two of my friends who are planning to buy a new car in near future.
In Jan I bought a 2007 Mazda 5 GT automatic, no leather for 25,796 + 13.5% + $100 air conditioning tax. The AT added $1,000 to the price. (Canadian)
Yes, The price of CDN$25,883 includes everything except tax of 13.5% for a fully loaded '07. (Mazda 5 GT, 5speed manual with leather and climate control) :shades:
Other than the color black(+$0) or Snow Flake White Pearl (+$200), the other colors add $100
So if zbx got a $100 color option, than your discount is about $689 (not much difference)
I know what to expect, I guess.
Missing from this MSRP is tire tax of $25. battery tax $100 and documentation fee $250 (dealership will not budge on this due to selling me the car at just 500 over invoice) for a total of CDN$27,095 plus 13.5% tax.
I paid CDN$25,883...so I saved CDN$1212
not bad I'd say. I did this without having to set foot in a dealership. All over the internet and phone- in 1 day.
This is from Oklahoma City, Bob Moore Mazda.
Just wanted to share.
The process was quick and relatively smooth. The caveat is that it can a real pain to drive out there - horrible traffic, at all hours of the day. I highly recommend them, regardless.
$19500 -300 cash back +tax and tags. in Rockingham, NC
thanks.
17k miles on it, good as new.. all the options including NAVIGATION, etc. 100,000 mile extended warranty
factory roof rack and hitch for bike attachment
$17,500 obo. amazing deal.. let me konw if anyone is interested!!!