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And congrats on getting ~$1500 off of MSRP (after the Gerber rebate). I ended up at ~$1100 under MSRP (also after the Gerber rebate) on the lower-priced Sport model in Platinum Silver.
Currently have a big 7 passenger minivan (Ford Windstar). Wife badly wants the Honda Odyssey EX which is similar size to Ford but has an extra mini seat for 8 passenger seating.
I drive the van to work as my main car so 75% of the miles on the car are me alone. Another 20% is me with wife and 2 kids. And last 5% is with more than 4. Sometimes we have carried 7 in the Ford, because we could; taking other couple to dinner, that sort of thing. Also have had occasion (maybe one or twice a year) to carry full size sheets of 4x8 plywood or other such large objects.
The Mazda5 Touring 5spd is anywhere from $7000-$9000 cheaper than the Honda ($7000 difference wholesale, $9000 difference in MSRP). The Mazda also gets a little better gas mileage.
I think the Mazda with the 5spd manual would be a lot more fun to drive.
Did anyone else go through a similar decision making process? Which way did you finally decide and are you happy with that decision?
Thanks.
We have gone through the exact decision tree as you! In my case, I was the proponent of the Odyssey for its people moving prowess, and respectable MPG (28hwy with VCM)
At the end of the day, although the Odyssey handled better than some "Luxury Sedans", it seems like a lot of vehicle to drive around every day. Plus it was a tight fit into our garage even with the driver's mirror folded.
Enter the Mazda5 - It is not a (don't say it!) MINIVAN. My wife abhorrs the idea of driving one. Perhaps I planted the seed of malcontent when I taught her how to drive stick while we were dating ('89 Probe GT 2.2L Turbo) - and we haven't owned an automatic to date.
At this point, we've had a horrible experience with Ramsey Mazda in Bergen County NJ. Thanks for the feedback on Mapleshade. Poor customer service aside, we did take it out with 7 folks in it (my 5 yr old was on my lap in the 3rd row, next to our 2.5yr old in a car seat) and my wife took off like a shot. I still need to drive the 5-speed this week beofre nailing down the final numbers, but we're pretty much set to go with this car.
I actually came across this thread while researching pricing on extended warranties on the Net.
My last comment is that if Honda had a similar model, we'd probably with theirs since we are a Honda family these days, though that Probe was really an MX-6 in Ford's clothing. . .
- Scott C.
Took a test drive Saturday with 3 adults and two kids. Car was an automatic (dealer didn't get a manual yet). I thought the engine had plenty of power so that was not an issue for me.
What was a huge issue though was the A/C. I am in Sarasota Florida where the temp with heat index was probably about 100. We have several months in the summer/fall where the temperature is in the high 80s with high humidity. During the entire 15 minute test drive, the A/C never got really cold even in the front passenger seat. Forget about the 3rd row. My kids were sweating back there so I had to open the 2nd row windows to give them some air. That is a real deal breaker for us. I have read about lots of Mazda3 A/C complaints so I don't think this car was an anomoly.
If I lived where I didn't need the A/C so much, I would definately buy the Mazda5.
- Ford Freestyle, 2WD (Autoweek.com has a nice Odyssey vs. Freestyle article)
- Highlander V6 2WD, or Hybrid (pricey)
- Volvo V70 w/ jumpseats
- Mazda MPV - ES model (Consumer reports pulled their checkmark as of the '04 model year, but with the $4,000.00 rebate, you cold spring for the extended waranty)
My wife and I didn't like the driving dynamics of the Sienna - mushy brakes, lots of leaning in corners.
Bonne Chance!
10-7
(1) Most of the full-sized vans these days are delivered with window tint standard, to reduce the greenhouse effect of all that glass. The Mazda5 can be tinted to match for $200 or so. See http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/mazda5sizecompare.html and http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/windowtint.html
(2) Make sure you have tried with the vent system set with arrows pointing to the little person's face AND FEET. There are ducts (and storage spots for options my Sport doesn't have) under the front buckets that move air directly to the second row. (Yes I know hot air rises, but you're going to use the fan, not just convection.)
We have been comfortable in 96oF. driving in full sun in a dark grey 5, and if the system were not adequate, my family would not hesitate to let me know.
pagetuner
http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/
http://www.mazda5testdrive.com/
I already test drove and bought a Mazda5...too bad the offer isn't retroactive.
Steve
I think I'm doing good.
By the way, the price I got through Costco was $17,221. That is more than the first offer I got just by walking in the door at a different dealer.
$16,800? Wow, that's lower than the invoice of $16,864! :surprise:
How'd you manage that, did it take a lot of haggling?
Just one quick trip to the grocery store, but so far I am thrilled!
Here is a page about dealer hold back:
http://www.car-prices-costs.com/dealer-cost.html
I did not finance through the dealer and I did not buy an extended warranty or anything else.
what about the extra $398 the dealer wanted to charge me for extra delivery?
that's why I walked out.
they were offering sport automatic for 17,900 (without gerber)
thanks
asked them for this certificate,
had it in the mail in 5 days.
they were offering sport automatic for 17,900 (without gerber)
Was the $17,900 before or after the "extra" delivery charge was added? As a final price, $17,900 is great for a sport automatic (it's $1000 under MSRP, and I paid $600 under MSRP for mine 2 months ago). So, even though the "extra" delivery charge is a bogus charge, your final cost of $17,900 + $398 = $18,298 is still a fairly good deal (still $600 under MSRP). You might be able to do a little bit better than $18,298 at a different dealership, but I'd be surprised if you can do better than $17,900.
Anything in hindsight you can add would be appreciated?
Thanks
So far we love the car.
Totally understandable. If you can get the same price elsewhere, there's no reason to put up with phoney charges and a clueless salesman. If they add an "extra delivery" charge now, it makes you wonder if they'll try to add an extra $500 doc fee later on...good idea to get out of there and take your business elsewhere.
By the way, good luck finding a Mazda5 to buy...I'm really happy with mine!
I called the dealership back, talked to the manager and he waived the extra delivery charge (which he said was to get the car from the port to the dealership). anyway, looks like I got it.
I found out about the Gerber rebate after the fact - but when I called Mazda - they said that they would honor it if I sent in the offer with my sales contract - which I did about 6 weeks ago - I got my $500 check today!!
Thanks
$24980.00 Net
$20.00 AB Tire Levy
$25,000.00 Total
$455.00 Warranty + LOF
$1781.85 GST
$27,236,85 Grand Total
The web price comes to $27,568.55 for the same options including the warranty. I got quotes from three different dealerships and this was the lowest.
The $455 bought me an extra year and 20,000km on my warranty plus lifetime oil changes from my dealer.
They can send it out for tinting which they said would cost around $500 but we chose not to do that this year as summer is pretty much over anyway.
Thank you for your cooperation....
regards,
kyfdx
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Mazda’s partnerships with Gerber and the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecologists (ACOG) have provided us with new and unique ways to reach and promote the Mazda Brand to new prospects. Although both campaigns achieved sales growth, they will be concluding on 9/30/05.
As a reminder, customers need both the original coupon mailed from Gerber or the original Ad placed in Plum magazine (ACOG) and the $500 email certificate to be eligible for the offer.
Please refer to the program letters in DealerLink for the rules on processing the coupon or ad. Dealers that submit the Mazda Cash Back Rebate Form for customer cash back or dealer reimbursement without also submitting the original offer and $500 email certificate will be subject to dealer charge back. No photocopies of the Gerber coupon or ACOG ad will be accepted for claims submission.
I just called Gerber to request for the ad. And I already registered at mazdausa.com/gerber. But when I called my dealer, they said they have never heard of gerber discount. I just want to know if u could tell me how you get your dealer to fill out the paperworks for you?
By the way, u mentioned to register at gerber.com. How?
J
I found this forum today and just call gerber to ask for the ad. But I purased the car on 8/18. Really hope i could still get $500 back.
J
I purchased my 5 on 8/18 but just found out $500 gerber discount TODAY. I called Gerber for the ad but they said they will mail it to me tomorrow. I wonder if I could get it by this Friday or not. Where did u get the information about this offer is supposed to be valid till this Friday.
Do u know if I register at Gerber, I could get the ad quicker than receiving by mail? mazdausa.com/gerber did mention that the certificate will be given in 1-2 days after registering. So i registered it today and hopefully to have it by thursday. Now i worry when could I really have the ad by gerber.
By the way, we got a ford minivan from avis during the 5 recalls, what about u?
J
I received the Mazda certificate by email today but it was stated that "this offer is only valid on a 2005 or 2006 Mazda vehicle purchase between 09/28/2005 and 11/28/2005.". Did your certificate have this statement too?
and it also states "The $500 Cash Back Bonus can be combined with any public incentives and must be processed through a Mazda dealer." which I know my dealer will deny it on the dates because we purchased the car in August.
God! I really don't know what to do now?
Any advice?
I called Mazda USA and they siad it's not possible that the dealer has no idea about it. And they still want me to go through my dealer.
So I will go to my dealer next Monday and hope they will not challenge on the dates. I wanna thank you again no matter i will get the 500 back o not.
J
what do you guys think. he told me no neg under invoice..but i know i can always go for other dealer..just wondering if the manager offering me a good deal or fair deal...could i get any lower.....i need help...any idea about any rebate coming up...i could wait a month or so....thank
Is that right? That's a great deal! Here in No. Va. it doesn't seem like dealers are selling for more than several hundred below MSRP. I'd be interested to hear from others in the No. Va. area.