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I agree with you about the crappy sound and huge differences based on which component is playing. Since I do not switch between disks and radio all that often, it's an inconvenience more than a problem for me. But I doubt very much that there is an upgraded aftermarket audio system available that will both fit in the dash and integrate with the DIC (Driver Information Center). You should also be aware that most GM remote lock/unlock/remote starter systems key into the radio as well. So you might also lose those OEM functions as well as the DIC if you switch the radio to an aftermarket system. However, you MIGHT be able to find a system from a higher level Pontiac (AKA Bonneville) that would work. You should try speaking with a knowledgeable Tech at the GM ranch. I was thinking of upgrading the speakers and adding a subwoofer myself since I think the speakers are kind of weak. It wont FIX the fact that you have more bass from radio than CD's, but it might make it easier to live with. The subwoofer would help a lot in filling in the bottom when the speakers find the music out of range.
Good luck...and post again if you find out more information.
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Available Engines:
169-hp, 2.4-liter I-4
217-hp, 3.5-liter V-6
224-hp, 3.5-liter V-6
227-hp, 3.9-liter V-6
240-hp, 3.9-liter V-6
252-hp, 3.6-liter V-6
Available Transmissions: 4-speed automatic w/OD
4-speed automatic w/OD and auto-manual
6-speed automatic w/OD and auto-manual
6-speed manual w/OD
This can't beright. Meybe Gm should drop some enignes/engine plants. Too much here for 1 car. Keep it simple. A 4 cyl and the3.6, if your really in trouble give it the 224hp 3.5 in the middle but thats it.
Can't wait to see the 3.6L version.
thanks
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Hope that helps!
I now have almost 1200 miles on it and I still love everything about it! I've had soo many people ask me what it is or stop and BACK UP down my street to look at it! It's a great car.
Additionally, it was forecast that by the end of 2008, GM will produce as many as 200,000 vehicles globally with direct injection technology, and by 2010, GM projects one out of every six GM vehicles in North America will be equipped with a direct injection engine.
The application of direct injection technology to the 3.6-liter VVT engine – a member of GM Powertrain’s family of high-feature V-6 powerplants used on cars and trucks around the world – contributes greatly to a 15-percent increase in horsepower over the current levels that range from 240 to 267; an 8-percent increase in torque, and up to a 3-percent improvement in brake-specific fuel consumption (BSFC). An approximate 25-percent reduction in cold-start hydrocarbon emissions is also achieved.
With direct injection, precisely metered fuel is delivered directly to the combustion chamber, which has a cooling effect in the chamber. Cooling the incoming air charge enables a higher compression ratio, which also improves engine efficiency. Less fuel is required to produce the equivalent horsepower of a conventional port injection combustion system.
“The 3.6-liter VVT with direct injection will be our highest specific output non-turbocharged V-6 engine, as well as one of the most fuel-efficient offerings in our high-feature family,” said Tim Cyrus, chief engineer for high feature V-6 and Northstar V-8 engines. “It’s the latest example of our strategy to continue to reduce emissions and improve fuel economy without sacrificing performance.”
This is GM’s third engine with gasoline direct injection. The announcement of the 3.6L VVT V-6 with direct injection comes on the heels of the introduction of GM Powertrain’s Ecotec 2.0-liter four-cylinder Turbo engine with direct injection on the 2007 Saturn Sky Red Line and Pontiac Solstice GXP roadsters. Also, since 2004, a naturally aspirated Ecotec 2.2-liter direct injection engine is equipped on Opel models in Europe.
How direct injection works
Direct injection differs from the fuel delivery process of a conventional engine by delivering fuel directly into the engine cylinder, where it is mixed with air. The combustion process of conventional fuel injected engines uses air and fuel that partially evaporates in the intake port or intake manifold prior to being introduced into the combustion chamber. Direct injection is a continuation of the evolutionary process of moving the fuel introduction point closer to the cylinder to improve control.
With the 3.6-liter VVT with direct injection, fuel is introduced directly to the cylinder during the intake stroke. As the piston approaches top-dead center, the mixture is ignited by the spark plug.
The fuel injectors are located beneath the intake ports. The intake ports only transfer air, unlike port fuel injection, which flows air and fuel, thus increasing efficiency. D irect injection also permits a slightly higher compression ratio than if the fuel were delivered with conventional fuel injection. The result is better fuel consumption at part and full throttle. The engine uses conventional spark plugs similar to other high-feature V6 engines.
A high-pressure, returnless fuel system is employed. It features a high-strength stainless steel fuel line that feeds a variable-pressure fuel rail. Direct injection requires higher fuel pressure than conventional fuel injected engines and an engine-driven high-pressure fuel pump is used to supply up to 1,740 psi (120 bar) of pressure. The system regulates lower fuel pressure at idle – approximately 508 psi (35 bar) and higher pressure at wide-open throttle. The exhaust cam-driven high-pressure pump works in conjunction with a conventional fuel tank-mounted supply pump.
Direct injection’s fuel delivery enables very efficient combustion to help reduce emissions, particularly on cold starts – the time when most tailpipe emissions are typically created. Also, direct injection permits a higher compression ratio – greater than 11.0:1 in the case of the 3.6 – which has a positive influence on fuel economy.
3.6-liter VVT DI
The 3.6-liter VVT DI is based on GM Powertrain’s sophisticated 60-degree dual overhead cam (DOHC) V-6 engine. It is the latest member of a growing family of GM Powertrain V-6 engines developed for applications around the world, drawing on the best practices and creative expertise of GM technical centers in Australia, Germany, North America and Sweden.
Features found on the 3.6-liter VVT DI include:
-Aluminum engine block and cylinder heads
-Dual overhead cams with four valves per cylinder and silent chain primary drive
-High-pressure, engine-driven fuel pump
-Advanced multi-outlet fuel injectors developed to withstand high pressure and heat
-Stainless steel, variable pressure fuel rail
-Four-cam phasing (VVT – see description below)
-11.3:1 compression ratio
-Aluminum pistons with floating wrist pins and oil squirters
-Polymer coated piston skirts
-Forged steel crankshaft
-Sinter-forged connecting rods
-Structural cast-aluminum oil pan with steel baffles
-Electronic throttle control with integrated cruise control
-Coil-on-plug ignition
-Advanced direct injection capable engine control module (ECM)
-Optimized exhaust manifolds with close-coupled catalytic converters
-Fully isolated composite camshaft covers
-Outstanding noise, vibration and harshness control
-Maximum durability with minimum maintenance
-Common manufacturing practices for efficiency and exceptional quality
-Four-cam phasing
The 3.6-liter V-6 VVT DI employs four-cam phasing to change the timing of valve operation as operating conditions such as rpm and engine load vary. The result is linear delivery of torque, with near-peak levels over a broad rpm range, and high specific output (maximum horsepower per liter of displacement) without sacrificing overall engine response and driveability. When combined, direct injection and cam phasing technologies enable an unmatched combination of power, efficiency and low-emissions in gasoline V-6 engines.
Cam phasing pays big dividends in reducing exhaust emissions by optimizing exhaust valve overlap and eliminating the need for a separate exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system.
By closing the exhaust valves late at appropriate times, the cam phasers allow the engine to draw the desired amount of exhaust gas back into the combustion chamber, reducing unburned hydrocarbon emissions. The return of exhaust gases also decreases peak temperatures, which contributes to the reduction of oxides of nitrogen (NO x) emissions. In tandem with the dramatic 25-percent reduction in cold-start hydrocarbon emissions brought on by direct injection, th
I just had the motor replaced on 6/13/06 then today it showed an power steering error again today, less than 24 hrs. later.
Taking it back to shop Sat. to see what is wrong with it now.
If anyone has had this problem or has heard of this problem please let me know.
Remmeber you have a really good car, and besides these issues, it seems pretty well screwed together. Anything else wrong with your car, or is it just the steering?
Have you had the chance to drive this and a honda back to back? The V6 or GT is right in between a 4cyl and 6cyl honda, closer in price to the 4 but in performance closer to the 6.
Best of luck to you!
Re: "chevy i think is higher than toyota" ??????????????
Where did you get this from? :lemon:
I'm shocked, I'm sure the rest of the World, too.
Explain, please.
While the whole of toyota is overall better than chevy if you take out the lexus brand you will be shocked. Also, individual cars from chevy are better than some at toyota. I'll check it out and post as soon as i find it, its been a while and i don't remember where i found it.
It is true, however. The newer chevy's especially are doing very well.
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The gearing is lighter too, but would that not improve fuel economy?
The best thing GM could do to improve both, is shave a few hundred pounds off the car
I've had my cleaned out 2 times in less than a month. You will see a few in the actual lights itself but then when I've had the dealer take the panel down right there they always find it loaded with bugs.
Please let me know if anyone else is having this problem.
Curious, did the dealer have a solution that stops the flow of bugs? Or are we stuck with extra, free 'roof insulation'?
The thing that just blows me away is how Pontiac treats this. I spoke to two different Pontiac District Mangers and they both told me that they were just start up problems. One of them told me that he had only seen one other G6 that had the kind of problems mine was having. I asked for a replacment vechicle and he refused. I told him I was considering going to the State to start the lemon law process. He just said it wasn't like I was having major problems like my engine blew up or the transmission broke down and the car left me on the side or the rode so just fill out the paperwork and I could talk to the lawyers.
I understand that you can't manufacture thousands of cars without making a few bad ones. I like my car, it's a head turner, the MPG on the road is good (+30 MPG in 6th gear at 1500 RPMs which is 55 MPH) and it handles well which is why I asked for a replacement not a repurchase. What just totally FROSTS me is what I percieve as Pontiac's lack of concern over customer satifaction and the quality of their product. The dealership even called and tried to convice the District Manager into replacing the car. My perception of their attitude is you get what you bought and if it doesn't work that is your tough luck. If you don't like it take us to court. The inconvienance of having to take it to the dealer (on average once a month) so frequently is becoming a burden. They give me a loaner but I still have to make arrangements with work and family, etc. I am rapidly approaching the point where I wish I had not purchased the car. My son has a 95 Eclipse with over 160K miles on it and it has a better repair record than my G6. He now refers the the car as that American Piece of junk. When I end up with the loaner because my car is being repaired at the dealership my neighbors come over and tease me asking if I've bought a new vehicle. This is flat embarrasing!
Any comments/suggestion would be appreciated.
Tell your friend good luck, and if you want to buy a used one (6 mos old) let me know!!
DO NOT BU TEH PANARAMIS SUNROOF - this thing is junk.......
Right out of the gate I had to take the car back 3 days after it was purchased because the sunroof worked whenever it felt like it which was on and off. They had to replace the motor. I read a similar discussion about the paint job.....yeah mine is horrible and it seems like every time you wash it, it just gets worse. Swirls, scratches, and sunspots. They have tried to wash, wax, and buff them away and that hasn't worked. The gas gauge wasn't functioning properly, it was not registering full when I would fill it up it would just bounce around. Where the seatbelts retract down into was aparrently holding water and whenever we would go to put them them on they were soaking wet. First it was just the drivers side then it was both. Took it in and they told me it was fixed. Had to take it back about a month later and then they told me that the drainage hoses for the sunroof were never installed when the vehicle was made, so they told me once again it was fixed. 3rd time I took it back was about 3 months after that and then it was that the drainage hoses that were installed on the last visit were to short. Waiting to see what will happen next.
We had a loud clunking noise in the front end and that ended up being gearbox for the power steering was faulty. Had a belt start squealing when turning at low speeds. Faulty Belt. Back break light cover rattles when listening to music with bass in it. Was told that it was loose.....suposedly fixed. Still does the same exact thing and it was taken in 2 times for that. The 2 major issues are when you go to crank the car up the starter stays engaged to long and when the car is sitting at idle it shakes horribly. It also trys to choke down when you crank it up, the rpms will jump up to like 2000 and when it decides that its going to stay cranked then they will go back down to about 700. Car still shakes no matter what. It has been in the shop about a dozen times.....not exaggerating, they tell me theres going to be a fix for the over start and it should be out in a month, no like 3 months, or the first of next year. Well, hear I am going on a year with still no fix for either. Mainly what I have been told about the idle and the choking down part is that the car is suppose to do that. Im not sure, but if a car is idling too low and trying to choke down there's something freaking wrong with it. The only reason I keep hearing that is guaranteed that they know there is a problem but there not sure what it is, so it makes us look like complete idiots. Well, I know better and I'm sure I'm not the only one with these problems.
I actually had the service advisor that I speak with every time I go in for something else, he actually said that if the BBB claim goes through and they either buy the car back or trade it for a new one that he wouldn't suggest getting another G6. Apparently there are 3 other people than me waiting on a fix for the over start and 11....yes 11 people complaining about the idle and choking down part. This is just a one small dealership so I can only imagine how many people are having these problems.
I know I have been going on and on but Im just so frustrated about the whole situation. So if anyone has any stories to tell that would benefit my situation, please let me know.
Thanks
There were zillions of Grand Am horror stories over the years. Now that...
I read quite a bit of this forum. Almost everyone was so excited right after buying G6. The car has some decent design cues. Now (one year later) there are either long lists of complaints or statements about BBB or lawyers and so on. Sad.
It's hard to believe but some owners were ecstatic when they drove it 10k and they had only minor problems.
You see, when I got my 2nd Accord (brand new) first thing I had to repair was at around 100k: I had to replace low beam lamp-bulb. Nuff said.
ROFL!
Someone plz fix this :P
They suggested I contact the dealer for solution. Called today to hear, yes the drains in the sun roof is the problem. Decided to google the problem, and here I am.
I do like the car, 14K but lost reverse once (replaced shifter) going in next week for wet seat belt/sun roof and
2nd time brake pulse. I hope this time they replace rotors
and not just "face" them. Last time dealer faced them, they
suggested to rotate the tires (11K) I agreed, but was
pissed they charged me $20 to rotate them. Actually, the
front tires were off the car for brake warranty work, so
to remove the rears and roll them forward seemed expensive.
Now, being in Central NY, I need to put on 4 snow tires. I've "been told" that the 4 snows off my 40th Anniversity Grand Prix GTP supercharged will work. I'm not sure, as this
G6 has 18" tires and the snows are on 16" rims. Anyone know
if they will work?
As for the wheels, I doubt they will fit. The G6 has a 5X110 bolt pattern, which is fairly unique to several very new GM vehicles. So the 16" tires will not fit your 18" rims, and the 16" rims will probably not fit your G6 because of a different pattern. Kinda out of luck there unless you order 16" steel wheels from the factory. On a G6 site I belong to, there have been a couple of guys trying to buy used steel wheels, but so few are available, you are probably stuck buying them from the dealer. You MAY be able to get some from GMPARTSDIRECT or GMPARTSCHEAP at a better price. If your car came with the Goodyear LS2 tires (that's what came on my car with 18's), they should be ok, since they are all season rated, but they are not snows. If your car came with the Bridgestone tires, you do need snows, because they are summer only tires.
up here where we get average of 130 inches of snow, snow
tires really make a BIG difference. With the last 2) Grand Prixs I had, when climbing steep and long hills, the traction control would kick in, dropping cylinders, only to
loose speed and many times slow down so much I could not make the hill. other times I'd just turn off the traction control and burn my way up the hill... with snows, never
had the traction control kick in... with 4) snows, the
braking is much more stable, predictable.
I wish you luck!
and blizzak snows, platic hub caps package for G6 GTP for $600 + $93 shipping. (also in stock) alloy rims for additional $200 ($50 more than steel rim)
Thanks.