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Since neither site is providing the method behind collecting their data or their own proprietary calculations, then how do you propose one is better than the other?
I will propose that Edmunds has been around a lot longer, has far more information from members and dealers, and probably generates more web traffic than truecar (by many, many multiples).
It's a nicely laid out website... but, that doesn't make their information accurate or better.
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The reaction the dealers have had to this new web site is one of disgust, "too much information given to the prospect" I was told. In more than one case, the info has revealed what pricing liers some dealers are to me, just plain old scum bags, wherein I know now never to step a foot in their dealerships. No wonder they are all nearly going out of business!
Nationwide, the cheapest dealers tend to be in and around the Reading, PA area, as this is where most all East Coast livery companies buy their cars, typically the Lincoln Town Car, and where many fleet sales take place.
i'm wondering if you could ge ta better deal on a leftover 09 tech or a 2010 base...
leasing. are there incentives on any of the TSXs now?
i had been looking at TL leases, but don't want to spend that much. i was figuring a TL base w/tech was going to be around 522/month with zero down. not sure how much cheaper I coudl go to get a TSX. i was thinking of getting a nicer car like a TSX and now i'm starting to get that "screw it just buy a cheap car" attitude... not cheap like a corolla..just less expensnive..like an inline 4 TSX instead of the V6 TL...
i read a recent post here where a person reported getting 480/month + tax with zero down. maybe you coudl get to 450k...but I don't think you could get to 400.
i'd consider going down to a TSX lease if I could save a ton of money per month..not sure how much cheaper I can ge tthe TSX lease for vs a TL?
with the $2000 dealer cash on teh TL, it seemslike the TL is actually a better lease.
there is $1250 dealer cash on eh TSX tech, but the selling price of that car is about 29000 to 29500. the selling price for a TL w/tech is hardly any higher than that... like 33500 or something...more expensive..but a marginal increase.
a TL base NO tech would hardly be any more expensive than a TSX tech...
I just tried using the True Cars cost with one of the dealers who still has 4 of the 09's in stock. He told me that he will sell all 4 by the end of the month for more money, and wished me well in my endeavors elsewhere. Should I keep pumping this dealer, or move on?
Leasing gives me tired-head
Heck we don't want highway robbery, we just want decent service, respect.
I would think at this point a dealer would want to focus on moving as many cars as they can. Not by price. You would more than likely make a better profit by selling more than selling one at a higher price. You know it will sit for awhile. That is a BIG risk to be taking, even for an Acura. That is not good business either.
Also, you just don't know who will walk in your door, that has good ties with people. Meaning, word of mouth can be either good or bad for you. You don't always know who your dealing with. Our business has secret shoppers, where we get judged by our service technique. But, the goal is to put customers first, respect them. Trust me, you do all of this, you the rest will follow.
I'll even pay more, if the dealer offers top notch service and respect. I would!
That is peace of mind! Even if you did buy it from the dealer which offered low quality service and overall feel, then are you going to feel good about taking it back there, for problems, or speaking with anyone of them? Nope!
Move on, you may have to drive, but do a deal search and do a mass email quote for leases.
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on TSX with Tech pkg today.
$379./mos for 36 mos
$3500.00 down
10K miles
additional miles at <.10/mile
extend lease for the same mthly pyt at the end.
ACURA dealer Route 22W New Jersey.
Can you tell me what dealer you contacted.
Thank You.
Only 10k miles? No deal there.
$2200 total out of pocket
$375/month for 36 months/12,000 miles
This is the final bottom line, inclusive of all taxes and fees.
Sound good? Please let me know.
2010 base TSX, 36 months, 15 k per year, no money out of pocket besides first months payment and $80 for 2-year tags
msrp 30120
net cap 29199
residual (61%) 18373.20
money factor is .00243 (5.832%)
total sales tax is 2144.16 My local tax is 6.35% which means that I am paying tax on 33766.29 (which I thought was odd)
monthly payment of 465.05
I know this is too high. My last lease (Volvo) had a money factor of .0013. We have mid 700 credit ratings, and I can't understand the higher money factor.
You can play with the cap, residual, etc... but in the end it comes down to the mf.
Can you give some guidance as to why the high mf. I know Acura finance sets a baseline and the dealerships work from there, but I feel like this is a too high.
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Like I said Volvo was .0013 3.12%
Our Sequoia was .0016 3.9%
The difference between a 3.9 and a 5.8% is roughly $40 per month.
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2010 TSX w/Tech: MF? 36/15 residual %?
I'm trying to decide which I should purchase, the 2009 or the 2010.
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The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '09 TSX Tech are .00275 and 54%.
When negotiating your lease on the 2009 TSX Tech, make sure to take advantage of the $1,250 dealer cash that is currently available on it. Acura is not providing any dealer cash on the 2010 model at this time.
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2018 QX60 RWD
Here's the final offer:
4dr Sedan w/Technology Package (2.4L 4cyl 5A)
10,000 Miles
MSRP: 33,220
Selling Price: $31,012
Cap Taxes: 1,121.22??? (what is this?)
Doc Fee: $189
Acquisition Fee: $595
Residual 61% = $20,264.20
Money Factor = .000243
Total Down payment: $1550.53
Monthly Payment = $457.03
When I put these same numbers into the edmunds calculator I get $426.36 per month. Any thoughts as to why?
All help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
What state are you in? NY, IL & TX have special (unfavorable) tax rules on leases.
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Many states collect the sales tax upfront.... even some with relatively benign sales tax rates...
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Taxes on leases aren't all that high in NJ, compared to anywhere else.. It's just the method that is a little different (though, you can find it in probably a dozen other states).
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$0 down (walked away with no money out of pocket for anything)
$385 per month which includes tax (I added the "dent protection" for another $12 per month)
10k per year for 3 years (64% residual)
I feel like I did pretty well....thoughts?
I ended up getting the 2009 Tech model; I was looking for White with Parchment... that was almost as hard to find. I ended up getting the Palladium with Taupe interior.. still sexy.
My deal ended up to be..
$2250 down... (taxes, payment, reg, etc.)
$365 monthly (total with taxes and all that good stuff)
12k/year
36 Months
I think I got a pretty good deal. People have been telling me so and my research has shown it as well. The Finance Manager turned out to be a family friend and he told me the deal I was getting wouldn't go down on another day. (I was pretty much the only person in the dealership lol)
Thoughts?
365 payment
~600 tags
45 doc
595 bank fee
= ~$1,600 where did the rest of the money go?
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- $29,725 sales price (laughable, but negotiations to follow)
- 36 mo. (what I want, and what everyone else on this forum seems to suggest)
- 10k miles (about what I'll use)
- $850 1st pmt. & fees
- $454 per month (tax included)
This offer just seemed off-the-charts high to me, especially in light of the deal that Acura has going for $299 per month with $3,599 down. I could even buy it outright with a loan for $600ish per month, which isn't that far from $454. Without the down payment on the deal (my credit's great, so I can do so), and even by simple math, I should only be paying close to $400 per month ($3,599/36 + $299 = $399ish).
Is this dealer not even considering the capitalized cost reduction mentioned in Acura's deal "which may be paid by the suggested dealer contribution"? Is it something else? What am I missing here?
Any advice would be appreciated. First-time leasee here.
To give you an idea...3 weeks ago i leased my base tsx, also 36 mo with 10k miles. I walked out putting not one cent down (no first months payment) and my payments were 385 WITH the 7% usage tax my state adds on every month. I added the dent protection to my lease so I am paying 399 (374 w/o tax) per month.
The first quote I got was like 416...you can do better!
The price I was quoted from the dealer was $31,361 with a drive off of $1004 for a 3 year, 36,000 mile lease. According to the salesperson, the monthly payment would be $450 per month + tax. He said the residual value for the TSX Tech at the end of 36 months would be $19,932 or 60%.
Do those numbers sound right? Is that monthly payment reasonable for the above package and figures or should I keep looking?
Thanks,
Len
Can you tell me where you got your deal from? I may be in the market for the same car. Were there any dealer incentives you took advantage of to get this deal or did you get it via hard nosed negotiation? Lastly, what is dent protection? I was under the impression that Honda Financial gives you around $1200 in credits to cover dents / wear & tear when you lease with them.
Thanks in advance for your responses.
What is current money factor and residual value for TSX 2010 base model for 36 months and 10,000, 12000 and 15,000 miles.
How much is AHFC's acquisition fee?
Thanks.
Can you provide me with the MF & Residual on the following:
2010 TSX - base model, No NAV, Auto Trans, 4 cyl model
I am looking at a 36 month 36,000 mile lease.
What would a good price be for this vehicle? After reading the latest sale volume info at Automotive News, it looks like Honda of America sales are off 20% or more through September.
Thank you for your help.
It's almost 5% interest.
So, definitely do-able, but I know that lease rates have been quite a bit worse on the 2010s, at least from what I've seen on here.