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invoice: $30,410
dest. charge: $825
meteor gray: $475
ipod: $225
warranty: $650
total: $32,560
with NY tax + 4.9% financing ($16K down) for 60 or 72 months I'm coming up with: $36,098.34 or $16K down $271 a month for 72 months.
Are my #s accurate? Close?
I need advice. I am about to pull the trigger on an Audi A4 Sedan with Premium Plus with 15k miles and 42 or 48 month lease. Would you happen to have the lease rates.
The best I have been able to get is the following:
MSRP:38025
Selling Price: 35095
0 Money down
Lease Term 42 month
Residual: 48%
MF: .00250
Dealer just got back to me saying they needed to dump 60 cars by January 2nd.
Knowing this could I do better?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
A4 Prem Plus 2.0T
36 mos / 15k miles (about $21 per month more than 12k miles)
MSRP 37,925 - includes wood trim interior OR metallic paint $400 upgrade included, but not both... no navi
$555 / month (including 9% PA lease tax) with $863 to $1,000 down (which includes first month's payment and all fees)
price includes various coupons according to the dealer and they are selling me the car at invoice + $250 or so prior to the dealer coupon(s)
maintenance plan adds ~ $10 / month
FWIW - Lexus IS 250 AWD with similar options is ~ $520 / month with the same terms as above.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated... not sure how others are getting below $500 per month on this thread, unless those markets are getting better lease terms / rates from Audi.
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One dealer is telling me that residual percentage is 3% less in FWD than a similarly equipped quattro (and as a result the monthly lease payment is only about $10 difference between FWD and quattro)? Is this true?
I'm looking for A4 FWD premium plus with or without nav.
there's not the lease support on the CVTs as the Quattros.
I have been to 1 dealer only and have only 2 days left to end of year deals. Dealer 1 gave me "Invoice" price for a lease. Can I do better? "how" much better?? I told them I saw up to 2k below on this forum and they said they wouldnt be in business.
Also- I am confused as to the real residual values-- charts posted on various car forums list it a bit lower than what I see here. also- if you calculate sample lease from Audi website with their numbers in the Ad- it comes to a residual of about 58% for a 2.0 quattro- which is much higher than the published charts. I got a quote yesterday of a 55% residual for premium and 53% for prem plus for a 15k/36mo.
Car-man- or anyone else-- can you provide any insight to the real #'s ?
thanks SOOOO much-- hurry i only have 2 days left!!
I am in the same predicament and I am hustling to get an Avant before Jan 2nd (though the 1st payment on a lease doesn't amount to too much). I am emailing dealerships and negotiating 2k below invoice for Prem Plus Avant! I know that sounds unrealistic but hey, you never know!
Anyway, I am a noob when it comes to leases, and I gather from your post that I should inquire about the residual percentage. I thought that was fixed but apparently you are finding various numbers. Please share in this forum when you find the 'correct' number or score your new audi with all the details!
I just agreed on pricing on an Audi 2.0 Quattro premium package. I got slightly below dealer invoice. I then added on the Audi Care which was another $690. However, it also increases the Residual by 1%. The residual for a 36 mo with 15K miles is 55%. With the Audi Care, it is 56%. The MSRP on the car was $35440 (plus $690 for Audi Care). The Selling Price was $32910 (plus $690 for Audi Care). Then they added on $625 Acquisition Fee, Tax and Title. I live in Ohio so I'm not sure how these will translate to other parts of the country.
I spoke to 4 different dealers and this was the best pricing I negotiated.
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MSRP: 38400
Purchase Price: 35200
Residual: 53
0 Money Down
First payment by Audi
Audi Care Included for free (650.00 value)
42 Months
15k Miles
Monthly with Tax: 536
for your Avant- I saw this info from Carman a few pages back:
"Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Audi A4 2.0T Avant Premium Plus with 15,000 miles per year are .00202 and 52%, respectively."
that may help you know the details.
another quote from Carman a few pages back: "Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of an '09 A4 2.0T Sedan Premium with quattro and 12,000 miles per year are .00169 and 57%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a Premium Plus are .00169 and 55%. "
I suppose my quote of 53% on a 15K (Prem plus) accounts for the extra miles and might be right on track?
What i dont understand is the Season of Audi event Ads -- which if you calculate their numbers the resdiual seems higher.
2K under Invoice seems impossible-- but hey thats great and you never know I guess.
They also told me I can not get Loyalty cash-- and I am turning in a 2006 Lease.? This seems not right to me-- It would seem to me I have been loyal. They said it was only for 2007 leases. I dont know if this is incorrect.
thanks for all the input!
And yes I know 2k below invoice is a lot, but I've been following the price trend for several cars, and the savings just keep getting bigger and bigger as the economy gets dimmer! So I'm going to push the envelope - maybe the CA is looking to dump a certain # of Avants before the new year NO MATTER WHAT? Who knows?
In any event, keep us updated as I shall and I wish you a very low price for your new beautiful baby audi.
BTW- I currently lease an Avant and it is before the style change. I LOVE it. I kinda like the old style. Its sweet.
I wish i could keep it but i do not think it makes sense to buy it because my residual was very high (77%) and that is what you want in a lease-- but not good to buy at lease end. bo-hoo.
NOW- even tho i love my Avant-- the lease specials this time around favor the low-end A4 sedan. I might have to settle for a lesser sedan and not get another Avant.
I am sure you will love yours.
A response is much appreciated!
Should I pay the $1000 security deposit to lock in $32.5k price knowing the danger of nasty surprises with money factor or residual or should I refuse this deal and take my chances in Jan end and negotiate a fresh deal after I get back in town?
Any advice is much appreciated!
If you wait- and the special changes- at least you will still have 1000 to put down if you have to?
Can i ask- your $32,500.... how much of a deal is that? how much from msrp or invoice is that? I would be interested to know what deals are going on
thanks and good luck
So I believed him, and signed my 36mo lease with Volkswagon Financial Services. I got an amazing deal at $2000 below invoice. Maybe thats why he couldn't sign me up with Audi Financial Services.
Anyways, I agreed and signed up with Volkswagon Financial Services. Did he lie to me? What concequences might I face later because of this?
Thanks.
To answer your question, per Edmunds msrp on the car is $38,000 and invoice $35,352.
MSRP $38,000
Invoice $35,352
Selling price $32,500
AudiCare $650
residual 57%
money factor 0.00169
0 down
I'll pay TTL fees of $355 upfront. Dealer is quoting $485/mo with 8.25% CA tax. My calculation shows it should be $445/mo with tax. Am I right, is the dealer fudging the monthly lease payment amount?
i just picked up my new a4 w/ premium pkge. in l.a. check out this deal. $1459 down (inc. 1st mo., t.t. etc.) and $422/mo. also included were these three options: symphony sound system, bluetooth and ipod interface.
i used the internet to get the best lease deal from different dealers and the got it in writing from the salesman.
Downtown Audi of L.A. was the dealership and the lease signing was a breeze, with no hidden nonsense at all. i highly recommend them.
msrp is $48K
Cash or 36 month $0 dn lease
THANKS!
Thank you.
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Consumers who lease with 15,000 miles per year are allowed to purchase additional miles at lease signing at a discount to AFS' normal excess mileage penalty.
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Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 A4 2.0T Sedan Premium with quattro are .00169 and 55%. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '09 A4 Sedan FWD Premium are .00116 and 51%.
Keep in mind though that this lease program is only scheduled to run through today, January 5th. Audi will introduce its new January lease program tomorrow. If you haven't finalized your deal yet, please feel free to check back with me in a few days and I will be happy to give you an idea of what the new program is like.
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This lease program is scheduled to run through today, January 5th. Audi will probably roll out its new January program tomorrow. If you haven't finalized your deal yet, please feel free to check back with me than and I will gladly fill you in on the details of the new program.
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Really appreciate the info you provide on these forums! I'd love to know the MF and residuals for the A4 sedan Quattro Premium and Premium plus, for 12k miles/36 mth leases (or whatever term they offer in their new program).
In post #2521 you said " Through January 5th, Audi Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 A4 2.0T Premium Sedan with 15,000 miles per year are .00202 and 54%, respectively." Then, in post #2522, you said "Through January 5th, Audi Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 A4 Premium Plus Sedan with quattro and 15,000 miles per year are .00169 and 53%, respectively."
I realize that these rates are not valid after today, but I'm confused by money factors that are very different for two very similar cars. Is the only difference that one is a "Premium" and the other is a "Premium Plus" or am I missing something?
Thanks for responding!
Do you have the updated money factor and residual for January for 09 quattro with 10k, 12k and 15k miles on 36 mo lease with Audi care? Do you know when would Audi come up with similar numbers for CVT? Are they planning to have any special lease program for CVT model like they did for 08 A4 CVT last year?
Thanks!
Forgot to mention, my previous question was with premium plus option.
Thanks!
A4 2.0T Quattro 2009 Automatic
· 17" six-spoke alloy wheels with all-season tires
· Sunroof
· Halogen headlamps
· fog lamps
· One-zone climate control
· Power front seats with driver lumbar
· Leather seating surfaces
· Split folding rear seat back
· Cruise control
· Aluminum decorative inlays and door sill inserts
· Four-spoke multifunction leather steering wheel
· Audi Concert with color display screen and SIRIUS® satellite Radio
· Audi sound system
· Aux input
· Alarm system
· ESP®
· Electromechanical parking brake
· Tire pressure monitoring system
· Space saver spare tire
· Servotronic® steering
-Roadside assistance 24 hours for 4 year or 50k miles,
-Loaner car (every time you bring the car to maintenance at the collection)
Lease for:
36 Months
12k per year
$ 1400 at Signing (include tax, tag, registration, first month of the lease)
Total Monthly payment $ 489* with approved credit
I also looking for other brands and I know this is a Audi Forum but do you think you can help me with the Residual Value & Money Factor fro a BMW 328i
Thanks for your help,
Should I expect a dealership to honor (pass to me) the "buy rate" MF on a lease. My dealer told me that this was the rate that they pay to AFS -- and therefore NOT the rate that they can offer me (since they have to make money on the financing). Is this right?
BTW: the purchase price of the vehicle has some profit in it, plus there's dealer prep fees and lease acquisition fees etc. etc. etc. Plus 3 years worth of warrantly repair work, etc. I would think that there is plenty of profit all over the transaction.
Any advice appreciated.
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The numbers for the non-quattro A4 are out now. Its 36 / 15k numbers for an '09 A4 2.0T Sedan Premium Plus FWD are .00133 and 49%.
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As far as the BMW program goes, BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 328i with 15,000 miles per year are .00175 and 57, respectively.
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Of course, there may not be that many Audi dealers in your section of Texas. If this dealer is the only game in town so to speak, this reduces your leverage in negotiations. That is somewhat offset by the fact that the market for new vehicles is so terrible right now that most dealers are desperate for deals.
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