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Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • Hi Jack. If I was interested in leasing an A4 right now, I personally would probably go with a 2010 model. It's lease program is just as attractive as, if not more attractive than, the current program that's available on the 2009 model.

    Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 A4 2.0L Sedan Premium with quattro and 15,000 miles per year are .00142 and 53%, respectively. I doubt that you are going to be able to find a third party that can come close to this program.

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  • Hi jim5pen. There's nothing wrong with being upfront with dealers and telling them that you plan on leasing two new vehicles, but I don't know how much of an additional discount you will be able to negotiate above and beyond what you would have been able to get by just being a savvy shopper as a result of this.

    Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 A4 2.0L Sedan Premium with quattro and 12,000 miles per year are .00142 and 55%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2010 Q5 3.2L Premium are .00108 and 52%.

    If you were to lease either of these vehicles with only 10,000 miles per year, their residual values would be 1% higher.

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  • Hey koshka. Audi Financial Services' September buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 A4 2.0L Avant Premium with 15,000 miles per year are .00188 and 53%, respectively.

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  • Here's the information that you're looking for, jim5pen. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 A4 2.0 Premium Plus with quattro and 10,000 miles per year are .00142 and 54%, respectively. Audi does offer 39 month leases, the program for a 39 month, 10k lease of this car would be .00162 and 52%.

    It's difficult to say what Audi's October lease program will be like at this point.

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  • Here you go, uthumvee. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 A4 2.0 Premium Plus Sedan with quattro and 12,000 miles per year are .00142 and 53%, respectively.

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  • Car_man,
    THANK YOU!!!!
    this helps sooooooooooooo much!!!
  • Here you go, monkeyshift. Audi financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 A4 2.0 Premium Plus Sedan with quattro and 15,000 miles per year are .00142 and 51%, respectively.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '09 model are .00126 and 46%.

    You never mentioned how long you want to lease for or what mileage allowance you need, so I had to make some assumptions. Let me know if you want something different.

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  • Hi jim5pen. Audi Financial Services' September buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2010 A4 2.0 Premium Sedan FWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00095 and 52%, respectively.

    Here are the numbers for otherwise identical leases of the other trim levels that you mentioned:

    2010 A4 2.0 Premium Plus FWD: .00095 and 50%
    2010 A4 2.0 Premium Plus Quattro: .00118 and 50%
    2010 S4 Premium Plus Quattro: .00187 and 53%
    2010 Q5 3.2 Premium: .00108 and 50%
    2010 Q5 3.2 Premium Plus: .00108 and 48%

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  • Hi babybeans. Here's the info that you're interested in. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 A4 Avant Premium with 15,000 miles per year are .00213 and 48%, respectively.

    The dealer cash that Audi is currently providing on leftover A4 models is not compatible with the above lease program.

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  • You're very welcome, koshka. I'm glad that I was able to help you out.

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  • Of course the stupidity of the Audi leasing rates for the 2010s is that they aren't releasing cars to their dealers. Incredible mismanagement of supply, in my opinion since there are now few 2009's around.

    I'm waiting to see a 2010 A4 premium plus....dealer hasn't received any!

    Just sent a note to audi on this very topic.
  • Carman,

    Can you help me out with the 24month 18k miles per year money factors and residuals on the 2010 Audi A4 2.0 Quattro in both premium plus and prestige configurations.

    Thanks.
  • djl3djl3 Posts: 3
    I've been offered to lease an A4 2010 Premium Plus for $500 over invoice. $605/month with just the first month's payment at signing. Is this fair?
  • djl3djl3 Posts: 3
    I should note that this is for 36 months, 15K miles. The money factor they quoted was .00412 and the residual they told me was 53%. Thanks again.
  • 1)$500 over invoice on a 2010 is great.

    2) 53% residual sounds right depending on the model and whether you are taking audicare.

    3) .00412 money factor is WAY HIGH....that's over 10%. check back a few posts for the real audi rates.

    Perhaps the money factor was a mistype....but some dealers realize that selling a customer a car at just $500 over invoice sounds great. Customers can identify with 53% residual...most cars are in that range after three years. But customers have no clue what a "money factor" is.....so they can quote anything and the customer doesn't understand so it doesn't blow the deal.

    Hopefully, you did just mistype or wrote down the wrong number. If you gave us the right money factor, .00412, I suggest you find another dealer.
  • djl3djl3 Posts: 3
    Oops, yikes. The money factor was .00142 - typo!
  • Here are the details of the offer - thoughts?

    2010 A4 2.0T Quattro Premium Plus with NAV

    MSRP $40,850
    Mileage 12,000
    LEV % 53% (Would be 54% if we were at 10K miles per year)
    LEV $21,650.50
    Term 42 months
    Initial cap cost $38,451.00 - $400 over invoice in WA state
    Money Factor .00150 (for 42 months)
    Total payment $569.00
    Total Down $5,750

    My target payment is $550 per month - is the money factor right, or are they marking that up a little to make something on the back end? Any idea what the pick up is for the .20 bps higher MF?

    Would it be reasonable to accept these terms if they include Audi Care and the excess wear and tear protection?

    Thanks in advance!
  • A 36 mo lease with 53% residual and .0015 money factor should cost in the neighborhood of $593 with NO MONEY DOWN. I am assuming, for this that the dealer has an administrative fee of about $495 and there is an origination fee of $750...and that's included in my $593 number.

    So, I don't understand how you are putting down $5750 and still paying $569.

    Something isn't right here. you can get a close approx of your deal by taking $5000 of the $5750 (let's call the $750 your first months lease payment and registration) and dividing that $5000 extra payment by 36 months....which is $138 a month. That means that what they've quoted you is the equivalent of a no money down lease with a monthly payment of $569+$138=$707 a month.

    What's wrong here?????
  • sorry - couple of details:

    it's 42 months, not 36 - looking for MF at 42 months

    also, trade in owe ~29k getting 24k in trade...
  • Car Man,
    Here is the deal in front of me from a local dealer,
    2010 A4 Premium Plus
    MSRP: 41250

    Sell 39000
    Tax 2742
    Doc Fee, reg, elec fee plate, title 320
    Acq Fee 625
    Buy down 2495
    Ref sec dep 478
    1st mo payment 478
    Purch option 22,275
    Residual 54%
    Appreciate your feedback. thanks
  • I agree with you but many of the things you say to do will end up with one walking out on the deal. In NY, my experience with Audi dealers regarding the A4 is that they think the car sells itself at asking price. I was offered a 2010 A4 with premium, heated seats and bluetooth, that's it, they wanted $36,150, and offered no discount below that.

    Then the lease deal, 36 months, 12,000 miles, minimum down, which was tax, registration and first month, total around $2,800 down, monthly payment $500. This sounded like a terrible deal to me, but the other two cars I'm looking at, the BMW 328xi and the Infiniti G37x are both higher.

    But here's what I find to be difficult when it comes to a lease deal. I read about other's experiences with the exact same spec and everyone gets a different price, some wildly different. The only thing that says to me is either the dealer is not discounting the car, he's over charging, or he is fudging the lease numbers to build in a larger profit for himself. In other words, if the dealer isn't jacking the price, he's jacking the lease numbers, or both.

    I knew I was in trouble when he said to me: "you can always lower your monthly if you pay more up front." When I hear that line, and I hear it a lot, I just want to walk away right then and there. Trying to get a good lease price makes me feel like I'm being conned, it never feels fair. Is it just Audi, BMW, and Infiniti and other "luxury" foreign dealers that act like this, or is it everyone?
  • I'm looking at leasing a 2009 Audi A4 because of the lower sale price. The dealer I'm working with is offering a money factor of .00192, but on various sites I've seen .00106 as the money factor. However, the .00106 number comes from August, and I'm wondering if there's any chance this number has expired somehow.

    Looking at - http://www.ridewithg.com/index.php/2009/08/09-audi-a3-a4-a6-a8-s4-s5-s6-s8-lease-rates-august-2009/

    This is a solid $40 per monthly payment...

    Rest of deal:
    36mo/15k
    29k sale price
    51% residual
  • So, you wrote:

    "What you care about...the only thing you should care about on a lease is the total cost of the lease over the entire lease. Add up all the payments, any money you do put down, any termination fees and then divide by the number of months. That's the real cost of the lease per month."

    Correct, so why does everyone obsess over residual and money factor, which personally, I find changes constantly and is very confusing, thus helping the dealer, not you. What matters is what you pay over the course of a lease and it seems to be the one thing no one understands clearly and the one thing the dealer does not want you to think about. It should be a law that the total lease price for all new cars should be on the window sticker, full disclosure, up front, and if it changes, then retype the paper.

    Sorry for being so militant, but hey, when you're right, you're right.
  • Audi A4 Quattro Prem Plus with Sports Package and Nav
    MSRP: $43,360
    Price paid: $41,000

    36 month lease; 12K miles/year
    Money Factor: 0.0017 (I tried pushing for the 0.00142 rate, but they said that was only for tier A+, whereas I was tier A only)
    LEV: 53%

    Monthly payment: $706

    Any thoughts?
  • Audi A4 Prem. plus, no nav. fwd It has light woodgrain, ipod dock and homelink with auto headlights (not sure if that is standard)
    Here is the quote:
    32,985-MSRP
    .00149 MF
    55%-residual
    36 months
    12000 annual miles
    with audicare (740.00)
    625.00 (added to cap. cost)
    Base monthly payment: 534.36

    They didn't offer anything off the MSRP..

    Thanks!
  • I am not sure where you are located but in Southern Cali I am easily getting offers at invoice NOT MSRP. Call other dealers in your area - MSRP is not even close to the best deal you should be able to fine. Time have changed!!
  • That's what I thought..they are the only dealer in the area..I am going to try in other cities. Another question...my fico is around 670-does this mean I will have to pay higher money factor?

    Thanks!
  • Two questions for you all:

    1) Are the October leasing numbers out yet for a 2010 A4 Quattro Premium and Premium Plus?

    2) My current car is leased through the end of the year (Jan 2, 2010). Is it best to work out a deal sooner for a factory-build and have it delivered in time for my need (late Dec) or wait until later and work out a deal for an in-inventory or dealer trade (i.e., already build and in the States)? If the former, then about when should I begin negotiating terms for an order (how soon ahead of my current lease end)? How would that work then... will lease be locked in at current numbers or the numbers that are current when the car is actually built and delivered?

    Thanks!
  • Hello lefty4. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2010 A4 2.0 Sedan Premium Plus with quattro and 15,000 miles per year are .00142 and 58%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a Prestige model are .00142 and 54%.

    15,000 miles per year is the highest mileage allowance that AFS publishes residual values for. If you need to drive more than that, you will have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. It is less expensive to do so at lease signing than it is to wait until lease-end and have to pay an excess mileage penalty.

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  • Hi boas13. I see that you are considering making a $2,500 capitalized cost reduction on this lease. I always advise consumers not to make cap cost reductions when leasing. Those who make them risk losing part or all of them if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. Even though it means that your monthly payment will be a little higher, you will be much safer going with a zero down lease.

    Let's take a look at this car's selling price. The 2010 Audi A4 that you described probably has a spread of around $2,700 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. You were quoted a dealer discount of $2,250 on this car. That is an excellent deal.

    Just make sure that the dealer calculates your monthly payment using its buy rate lease money factor of .00142 and you're in business.

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