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Audi A4 Lease Questions

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  • Hi Carman, thanks for the education and great insights you offer on this forum. Will you kindly provide me with the current September money factor and residual on the 2012 as well as the 2013 A4 2T Premium models for a 36 months, 39 months, 42 months lease? I am planning to do 10,000 miles per year.

    Thanks so much!
  • You're very welcome cal2000.

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  • You're welcome gte304z and thank you for the kind words.

    Audi Financial Services' September buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 2.0T Sedan Premium quattro with 10,000 miles per year are .00167 and 53%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 39-month lease are .00187 and 51%.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical 42-month lease are .00187 and 49%.

    The numbers for similar leases of a 2013 model are .00114 / 58%, .00134 / 56% and .00134 / 54%.

    As you can probably tell, Audi pulled the plug on its lease support on 2012 models. The above standard lease program can be combined with the new $1,000 dealer cash that Audi is providing on the '12 A4.

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  • Audi is advertising new lease specials again. Unfortunately, Audi pulled the plug on the first month payment waiver offer :(
  • bkd33bkd33 Posts: 1
    edited September 2012
    Was offered a residual of 56% and money factor of .0017083 on a 39 month lease 10k miles for a 2013 a4. Walked out for now. Can you confirm those terms are the best Audi can do? I would be top credit tier. Thanks.

    Car_man can you provide insight? Prem plus model
  • I was offered the following:

    Allroad Premium - MSRP price $43,095 (excluding tax)
    10,000 miles, 36 month
    $607 per month

    $607 First Month
    $695.00 Bank Fee
    $349.00 Doc Fee
    $371.00 Registration

    Total out of Pocket $2022.00

    Is this a good or bad deal? What is residual and money factor?

    Thanks!
  • Hi bkd33. The money factor that you were quoted is a little high. Audi Financial Services' September buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 39-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 10,000 miles per year are .00134 and 56%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • Hi cliffpoz. It would be much easier for us to evaluate this deal if you were able to provide us with this car's selling price. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Without this number, it is more difficult to tell how large a dealer discount you are being given and in turn if there is any room left to negotiate. Let us know and I'm sure that either myself or another knowledgeable community member will let you know what they think.

    As far as this car's lease program goes, Audi Financial Services' September buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2013 allroad Premium with 10,000 miles per year are .00135 and 58%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

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  • Selling price on the allroad was 41,000.
  • just want to know if this is a good quote for an 2013 A4 premium plus with nav

    Model Year: 2013
    Model: 8K252A A4 2.0T QUATTRO TIPTRONIC
    Exterior Color: L8L8 PHANTOM BLACK PEARL EFFECT
    Interior Color: IK TITANIUM GRAY / BLACK
    Options: 1QE NORTHEAST TRADING REGION EMISS
    EXHAUST TIPS
    AUDI ADVANCED KEY
    ALL-WEATHER FLOOR MATS & TRUNK LINER
    FRONT LICENSE PLATE - HOLDER
    AUDI CONNECT
    IPOD CABLE FOR AUDI MUSIC INTERFACE - NO CHARGE
    AUDI MMI NAVIGATION PLUS PACKAGE
    WHEEL LOCKS
    PREMIUM PLUS PACKAGE

    They are offering it for

    $40600.00.
    $500 month
    36 months
    12k miles a year
    0 down
    MF .00114
    residual value will be 25228

    I ran the car calculator on this site and its quoting the car at $41,227 invoice

    thanks!
  • You're welcome cliffpoz. OK, so you're interested in a 2013 Audi Allroad Premium that has an MSRP of $43,095 and a selling price of $41,000. That's a $2,095 discount on a vehicle that has a spread of around $3,000 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. So, you are at around $1,000 over invoice. That's not bad.

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  • Hi, I am new to leasing. This is the deal I am being offered.
    2013 A4 Quatro Premium Plus
    all weather mats
    exhaust tips
    wheel locks
     
    36 months
    12K
    includes Audi care 
    430 with  2895.30 out of pocket 
    Is this a good deal?
  • Hi Carman,

    I am currently in a 2011 Audi TT Prem Plus. I am looking to trade it in early (18 months into a 39 month lease) for a 2013 A4 Prem Plus -
    MSRP 38,785
    Sale price of 37,000
    15k MPY
    Residual 55% (or 21,331.75)
    Money factor .00114 (about 2.5% interest).
    36 months-- 512.37
    Zero down
    OOP: 1st month payment, tax (NY), and fees.
    Audi care is $825, adding about $25 a month.

    Sounds astronomical to me. Please advise.
  • Hi milfedout. The money factor that you were quoted for the A4 looks good. Let's turn to the selling price.

    As a current Audi lessee you are eligible for a $1,000 cash incentive on your new A4. Add to that the spread of around $2,700 between this car's full MSRP and dealer invoice price and you have a total of around $3,700 or so to play with during your negotiations. You were quoted a dealer discount of $1,785. Soooooo if the dealer is not subtracting the loyalty cash from your offer you're still at around $2,000 over invoice. That's not horrific, but you should be able to do a lot better than that on an A4. The likely reason why this spread is so large is that you are getting out of your TT lease extremely early. Doing so usually hampers one's ability to get the best possible deal on their new vehicle.

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  • CarMan,
    Greatly appreciate your assistance. After reading your forum I feel like I was offered a terrible deal but I am still negotiating.
    36 mo. Lease 12k

    2013 A4 2.ot Quattro tiptonic
    Scuba blue premium plus
    Nav plus
    Advanced key etc.
    0 down
    Top credit
    Msrp $44,105
    Residual $25,139
    Quote…$700 mo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! w/o tax maintainenece…What should I expect?
    Can you provide an range? Thank you.

    Regards

    Paul Michael
  • dan412dan412 Posts: 22
    edited October 2012
    Hello Carman:

    I'd appreciate your input regarding this offer I got for a 36m, 10K lease (with loyalty bonus)
    MSRP: 47,490 (Prem+,MMI Nav, First Aid kit, side airbags + sun shades)
    Purchase price: 45,414
    Residual: 27,544
    Total Cap Cost: 48,351.57
    Cap reduction: 359.15
    Rebate: 1000
    NET cap cost: 46,992.42 ( 48351 less 359.15 + 1000)
    NY Tax (total): 2385.48

    Lease factors:
    MF: .00135
    Depr: 540.23
    Rent: 100.62
    Base pmt: 640.85

    Delivery cash due: 1000 + doc/aquisition fees,etc + 1st payment. Does this look right?

    Thanks in advance.
  • Hey thanks for all the free help Car_man!

    I have 06 A4 so I am eligible for the $1000 cash rebate. Looking at leasing a 2013 A4 2.0T QUATTRO TIPTRONIC (PREM PLUS, SPORT PACKAGE). Details for the deal are below:

    SALE PRICE $40,076
    ACQ FEE $695
    DOC FEE $80
    VEHICLE TOTAL $40,851
    DMV $390
    TIRE $9
    CAP RED $456
    REBATE $1000
    TOTAL CCR $1456
    TOTAL CAP COST $40851
    TOTAL CC REDUCT $1456
    ADJ CAP COST $39,394.96
    MSRP $44,285
    RES FACTOR 57%
    RESIDUAL $25,242
    CUST CASH $1500
    DRIVEOFF $2500
    MONTHLY BASE $466.82
    MONTHLY TAX $43.18
    MONTHLY PAYMENT $510

    -$1500 down
    -36 Months
    -Top Credit
    -12k Miles Per Year

    The salesguy said it would be 35 remaining payments of $510 including taxes. Will it really be $1500 out of pocket and really $510 for the remaining 35 months for a total of $19,350? Anything hidden or fishy?

    Also, do you know if I can still prepay $450 upfront for 36 total months of AudiConnect (6 months free +30 mos prepaid)?

    Thanks in advance!
  • Hi Paul. $700 per month is way out of whack for an Audi A4, even a $44,000 one. Heck even at full MSRP this car would only be $600 per month, and I know that you can do better than full MSRP. Run away from this dealer.

    If I was in the market for this car in an area that has a decent level of competition, I personally would shoot for a selling price of $500 to $1,000 over invoice plus the use of Audi Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor of .00114. You can look up the exact invoice price of the car that you want over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunds.com.

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  • Hi dan412. The money factor that you were quoted looks good. It's right in line with Audi Financial Services' buy rate for this car. Now let's take a look at this car's selling price.

    The allroad that you're interested in probably has a spread of around $3,200 or so between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. That probably puts the selling price that you were quoted at around $1,200 or so over invoice. That's not too bad, but there might be a couple hundred dollars to play with here if you shop around in an area that has a decent level of competition.

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  • You're very welcome schindy. You are being given a huge discount on this car. The selling price looks good to me.

    Having said that, a few thoughts:

    First you would be better off going with a zero down lease, i.e. not paying a capitalized cost reduction out of pocket at signing. I always advise consumers not to make large down payments on leased vehicles. Consumers who put money down on leases risk losing part or all of the money that they laid out if their car is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. Even though it means that you monthly payment will be slightly higher, it's safer to go with a zero down lease.

    Also, mak sure that the dealer uses Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor of .00114 to calculate your car's payment (top credit tier). With such a low selling price they may be looking to mark your car's money factor up for back-end profit.

    I'm not sure if Audi Connect can be pre-paid.

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  • garaklgarakl Posts: 1
    Dear Car_man,
    What are MF and RV with 48mo lease with 10,000 and 12,000 miles in October ?
    Thank you!
  • this car: http://www.universityaudi.com/new/Audi/2013-Audi-A4-47494ea50a0d048e0094de984320- 93ac.htm

    less the navigation but with added wood inserts - MSRP on mine was $42,170

    SALE PRICE $40,170
    TOTAL CAP COST $40170
    TOTAL CC REDUCT $4113
    TRADE IN: $5000
    ADJ CAP COST $36,057
    MSRP $42,170
    RES FACTOR 54%
    RESIDUAL $22,771
    MONTHLY BASE $464
    MONTHLY TAX $43.18
    MONTHLY PAYMENT $510

    *gap, first maintenance, 5 year warranty


    -$5000 down
    -42 Months
    -Top Credit
    -10k Miles Per Year
  • stumc1stumc1 Posts: 12
    Other than tax/tag/title fees, should I expect to pay additional dealer fees (ie. $599 doc fee) or or is this just total crap? I'm trying to calculate a reasonable offer for a 2013 A4 Premium Plus and not sure if I should take these type of dealer fees into account. Has anybody been successful at not paying these fees or are they just a cost of buying the car?

    Thanks.
  • dan412dan412 Posts: 22
    Thanks Car_man for the feedback; greatly appreciated.
  • hi garakl. You really shouldn't lease an Audi for 48 months. Audi's special lease money factors are only available for up to 42-months.

    Audi Financial Services' October buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 42-month lease of a 2013 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 12,000 miles per year are .00134 and 53%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The residual value for a lease with only 10,000 miles per year would be 1% higher.

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  • Hi stumc1. Doc fees aren't required by the manufacturer or the state. They really aren't anything more than a way for dealers to pad prices.

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  • You're welcome dan412.

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  • ekh443ekh443 Posts: 8
    Carman,

    What is the MF and residual on a 2013 A4 Premium Plus, 36 months, 15k miles

    Thank you!
  • Thanks Car_man!
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