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If you have a significant amount of equity in your vehicle you might be able to use that to your advantage in negotiations with a different dealer at lease-end, but don't assume that is going to happen because it usually is not the case.
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In short, the easiest way to get a good deal on a leased vehicle is to shop around for the lowest possible selling price and then have the dealer that you decide to go with calculate your vehicle's monthly payment using its buy rate lease money factor.
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This my first time leasing a car. I am looking to lease Audi A4 2.0T Quattro Tiptronic in Seattle, WA area.
Below are specs.
Ext. Color: Phantom Black Pearl Effect
Int. Color: S Line Black
Audi Connect
IPOD Cable for Audi Music Interface
S Line Sports Package
Prestige Package
Dealer Gave me following figures
Estimated Total MSRP $48670
Residual Value: 49%
Money Factor is 0.00124.
Miles/Year 10000
Does this sound correct? Based on your previous posts looks like Money factor is way too much? Right?
Thanks
Mav.
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2013 Audi A4 - Premium 2.0T Automatic CVT
Options:
-Convenience package
-Lighting package
-Wheel locks
-Chrome exhaust tips
MSRP: $35,735
Trade in equity on my old A5: -$500
Audi loyalty: -$1000
Negotiated price with incentives and trade-in: $31,300
Audi care: +$820
FINAL NEGOTIATED PRICE INCLUDING AUDI CARE: $32,120
42-month lease
52% residual
10k miles/yr
.00071 money factor
$695 acq fee
Residual: $18,582
$0 security deposit, $0 down, $0 drive-off (walk off the lot paying nada)
Monthly payment: $376 (includes CA 8.75%)
Should I pull the trigger?
Thanks,
Mike
$32,120 final price does NOT include the trade in
The $500 trade-in is going towards the cap-reduction/up front cost
Thanks!
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Have the leasing rates and details changed since December on a 2013 A4 Premium Plus quattro? This will be by first time getting a car on my own and I want to go there with some insight. I would like a 36 month lease, 15,000 miles with a convenience and lighting package. Do you know what the spread is on that? Also, what are the lease rates for it?
Thanks,
Brit
MSRP at $41,195
36 mo lease with 15,000 miles
Cost:
$3,000 down
$499/mo
Any insight on if this is a good deal? I am currently in another lease for my current car with 2 payments remaining ($750 total) but am also about $900 over my mileage. Car is in good condition and am thinking I will try and get Audi to buy that car out and that way I won't get stuck with final 2 payments or the mileage costs.
But wanted to get opinions on the current lease and if that sounded like a good deal? Thanks!
You can look up the exact MSRP and dealer invoice price for this car over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunnds.com.
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Let us know and I'm sure that myself or another knowledgeable community member will tell you what they think.
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I am a recent graduate so this is my first time getting a car on my own and I don't have a lot of significant credit history. I went to an Audi dealership in Houston and this is the deal they offered me for an A4 Sedan Premium FWD 2.0T CVT.
Lighting Package
Convenience Package
Audi Care
Lease for 42 months w/ 12,000 miles
Adj Cap Cost - $32,126.40
$6000 down
Money Factor - .00120
Monthly Payments - $398.92
Would you consider this a good deal?
Thanks for your help!
I just wanted to see how my lease offer looks when compared to your guys' results:
2013 Audi A4 premium plus
Monsoon grey ext.
MMI
Advanced key
Sport pckg
MSRP = $44,910
Residual = 55%, $24,948
12k / 36 month lease
Money factor = .00069
Security deposit waived
$675 deposit + $665.91 first payment = total down of $1,340.91 at signing
Base monthly payment = $618.16 + tax = $665.91
Look like a good deal to you guys? I'm planning on pulling the trigger soon...
Thanks for the help!!
What other fees are beng charged and rolled into the lease? Payments seem very high to me based on that MF and residual. Using invoice as a sale price, a down payment/deposit of $675, and standard lease acquistion fee of $695 and your posted MF and residual, I get payments of $519 BEFORE sales tax.
If I run the same numbers using MSRP as the sales price, I get $603 per month BEFORE sales tax. DO NOT pay MSRP for this car!
Here's the exact car that the sales person was basing the numbers off of:
http://www.audirenotahoe.com/new/Audi/2013-Audi-A4-56c41ff90a0a006401cc32101d15b- e0f.htm
Thanks for the help!
MSRP: $62.8K
Selling Price: $52.9K ($4K winter sales event, $4K USAA discount, plus a bit more off)
24 months / 15K miles per year
Drive off: $1159 (sorry, misquoted this amount in previous post)
Monthly payment: $565 plus CA tax = $615/month
Bottom line: a MB E350 is one of the most attractive leases out there right now, at least until the Winter Sales event ends at the end of Jan. This deal came from MB of Long Beach. I didn't sign on it (as much as I want to) because I am still in another lease right now.
Just helped my friend get this deal on a 2013 Audi A4 2.0TQ Premium Plus with Automatic transmission. I still think he should have gone with the Mercedes C300 4-matic for the money but he loved the styling of the A4. Only options are the Premium Plus and Navigation with an MSRP of $42,745 and selling price of $38,234 including the $1,000 conquest rebate of $1,000. 36 month term, 12,000 miles per year .00069 money factor and 55% residual with just inception fees at signing. See the details below...
CUSTOMER DISCLOSURE
Customer Name: Inside Car Buying LLC WD Deal ID: 21054
Sale Vehicle: New 2013 AUDI A4 8K252A 4dr Sdn 2.0T quattro Prem Plus AT w/AC , Automatic , Odom: 0
Payment Details
Term 36
Base Payment 451.61
Total Payment 451.61
Purchase Option 23,859.75
MSRP 42,745.00
Est. Miles Per Year 12,000
Disposition Fee 350.00
Excess Mileage Charge 0.25
Amount Due at Signing
1st Month Payment 451.61
Acquisition Fee 695.00
Fees & Insurance 247.50
Upfront Taxes 1,255.81
Total Inception Fees 2,649.92
Total Cash Required on Delivery 2,649.92
Tax Information
Customer State: New York Customer County: WESTCHESTER
Type Amount Rate Paid
Cashdown Tax 56.79 7.3750 Upfront
Upfront Tax 1,199.02 7.3750 Upfront
Fee Information
Description Amount Paid
Reg 150.00 Upfront
Insp 10.00 Upfront
Title 12.50 Upfront
DocFee 75.00 Upfront
2013 Audi A4 2.0T FWD
- Premium Plus
- Glacier White
- Sports Package
- Polished exhaust
- Wheel locks
- Audi Care
MSRP: $39,060
Agreed Upon Sale Price: $35,439
Term: 36 Months
Miles: 12,000/year
Money Factor: 0.00049
Total Drive off: $3,000 (includes first month payment)
Payment: $412/mo + tax
Residual Value: $21,092
I did NOT qualify for any rebates (new owner appreciate, loyalty, etc..)
2013 Audi A4 Premium Plus
MSRP: $45,360
Initial Cap Cost: $44,000
L.E.V. %: 55
L.E.V.: $24,948
Term: 36 month
MF: .00069
Customer cash down: $1,340
Total Sales Tax: $1,690
Total Add. Cap Cost: $1,093
Adjusted Cap. Cost: 45,093
Base monthly rental: $607.91
Security Deposit: $675
Total Initial Fees: 28.25
Total Working Cash: $1,340.12
Cap. Tax: 7.7250 %
Amount Due at start: $1,358.12
Total Monthly Payment: $654.87
How does this look? Copied these values directly from the quote worksheet the CA provided for me. I feel like the intial cap cost could be lower to get closer to invoice, and Customer cash down I assume is coming from the security deposit + 1st month payment and initial fees etc....Does the residual/LEV % look a little low too?
Thanks for the help guys!!
2013 Audi A4 Premium Plus with Auto trans, Nav, floor mats and chrome exhaust tips
MSRP $43035
Cap cost $41900
Trade in value $2700 ($11000 value - $8300 owed on current loan)
Cash due at signing $1658 ($43 Tax on credit + $125 DMV + $499.66 first payment + $695 bank fee + $295 "other" fee)
Money Factor .00089
Residual 54%
Sales tax 6.25%
Monthly payment $499.66 for 36 months/10,000 miles per year
Cap cost reduction includes $1000 new customer rebate.
I think that I can do better on both the final price and the money factor. Am I right?
2013 Audi A4, Premium Plus, quattro, Nav, B&O Sound System, Sport Package, Audi Advanced Key, and a bunch of other smaller stuff.
MSRP on it is $43,935.
I am offered a $550 monthly payment with $3500 (first month payment, license fees and all that stuff included) down for 42 months. How does that sound?
The MSRP is $47,870, and I negotiated the final price down to $44,481 by showing the salesman the TrueCar value. This is actually lower than the supplier discount that I would've received as a "friend/family" of Audi.
The money factor I was quoted was 0.00077, which seems pretty low but I've noticed on the forums that some folks were getting as low as 0.0006 from Audi. The thing I'm really curious about is -- I was quoted a residual factor of 56% even though I'm only driving 10,000 mi/year. Is this the right residual factor?
So the final numbers come out to:
47870 MSRP
44481 Final sale price
695 Acquisition fee
80 document fee
418 DMV fee
8.75 State tire fee
-1000 Loyalty rebate
602.23 Driveoff (or 1st month's payment)
602.23 monthly
Car_man, I wanted to double check on the ResFactor and MoneyRate for Feb 2013. And get your take on whether this was a good deal.
Also, wanted to get people's take on whether or not AudiCare was a good purchase if you're leasing the car for 3 years and driving less than 10,000 miles a year. I know the first scheduled maintenance is at 5,000 miles and that's free even if you don't have Audi Care (it's covered by the warrantee). But I'd then have to pay out of pocket for the checkups at 10,000 and 20,000 miles. I'm getting a quote for the AudiCare for $850. That's probably somewhat negotiable, but I'm wondering if it's worth the effort if it's only going to get me 2 trips to Audi service.
Thanks. This forum has been very informative and helpful.
I've been shopping around for 2 weeks for an Audi A4 Premium package. The specs I'm looking for are:
2013 A4 Premium
Monsoon Gray
Lighting Package
Convenience Package
42 months / 15k miles per year
So far, the best offer I've received is:
MSRP: $36,120
Total Cap Cost: $32,176
Residual: $16,976.40 (47% of MSRP)
Drive off: $2,000
Monthly: $418.21 out the door
Trade in: -$2,500
New Drive off: $0
New Monthly: $406.31 out the door
I am not sure about what money factor they used. Should I take this deal? Thanks so much for your help.
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I'm currently negotiating a similar lease deal, this is the best offer I received:
2013 A4 Premium Plus
White
36 months / 15k miles per year
$4000 down payment
Haven't asked about the drive off fees yet.
Monthly payments:
$400 for 12K miles per year
$430 for 15K miles per year
Does this sound reasonable?
A4 Premium 2013
Monsoon Gray
Lighting Package
Convenience Packing
42 months
15k miles per year
MSRP: $36120
Total Cap Cost: $32,176.53
Drive-off: $2000
Trade-in: $2500
Monthly: $428.21
Final monthly accounting for trade-in: $405.67
I went to the previous dealer and they were able to beat it and all in all, I am going to walk out of the dealership with $0 down and $400/month out the door including tax.
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They gave me the TMV on the car (and the $1,000 incentive for being a current customer). But they acted like I was crazy when I wanted the base rate money factor and offered me .00129 instrad of .00069 for a 36 month 12k lease.
This was one of the dealers that provides quotes when you request them through Edmunds.com, so I assumed that would not be surprised by what I was aking for.
Was I really out of line?
Car_Man, could you shed some insight on one more topic - I feel that a lot of potential leasers will have this question as well. The financial manager talked me into getting the maintenance package for $820. I'm pretty sure I'll max out the allotted mileage (or close to it), but not sure if I'll end up spending more than $820 on maintenance services for a lease. Is this package worth the extra money? To recap, I'm on a 42 month term w/ 15k miles per year.
Thanks again
Now having said this, Audi is an exception to this rule. Audi Financial Services provides a 1% boost to the residual values of vehicles that are leased with Audi Care. That usually helps to offset a lot of the cost of the pre-paid maintenance program. If I was getting an Audi I would seriously consider getting Audi Care.
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I would love to find a deal like this in CT.
Could you provide the Dealer and Sales rep?
I would love to find a deal like this in CT.
A4 Premium 2013
Monsoon Gray
Lighting Package
Convenience Packing
42 months
15k miles per year
MSRP: $36120
Total Cap Cost: $32,176.53
Also could you share the MF and Residual value.
I believe you said 0 Down, Did you trade your car as a down payment?
the Monthly Payment is 400.00 is that with or without tax?
Thanks,
Audi A4 2.0T Premium Navi
MSRP: $44,370
final price: $41, 388.46
money factor: 0.00079
Out the door money (including first month): $1400
total monthly payment: $575
does this sound reasonable?
Here are the details of a current dealer lease incentive (Huntington NY Audi):
$359 per month for 36 months
$0 Security Deposit, $359 1st Month Payment, $695 Acquisition Fee, $1,796 Down Payment, $2,850 Due at Signing*
Based on MSRP of $38,045 for a 2013 Audi A4 2.0T quattro Premium automatic with Tiptronic, Convenience Package, Lighting Package, Heated Front Seats and Destination Charge, excluding taxes, title, other options and dealer charges
Monthly payments total $12,942
10,000 miles/year
Note: This lease offer includes the New Owner Appreciation Program. **Audi of America, Inc. will pay $1,000 towards the lease or purchase of a new, unused 2012 or 2013 Audi A4
(Which I assume - includes means this exact deal does not apply if you do not qualify for the Program)
Is this a good deal ?
Thanks in advance for any insights!
If you are in NY why not try out legendleasing.com they are in Brooklyn. A4 2.0T Quattro Premium 10K 39 months is $359 with 0 down. That would save you 1800 down payment.
If you try please let us know if they are indeed what they advertised. I'm thinking leasing from them too.
Could you please provide the April residual and MF for an A4 Premium Plus quattro for 36 months / 12k miles per year? Thanks in advance!