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BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

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  • x021627x021627 Posts: 148
    Base rate`for March was`.00190 for both cars. Not sure about April.

    Never put $ down on a lease except for MSD's.

    i was able to lease a 528xi better equipped then the one listed for $649 including taxes in Feb.

    you need to bargsin up from invoice, not down from MSRP.

    good Luck
  • tmasjrtmasjr Posts: 30
    You said 36 months, but its a 24 month lease. Is that just a typo or you thought it was 36? Does this change anything?

    Thanks.

    :confuse:
  • tmasjrtmasjr Posts: 30
    24, not 36. How does that change the numbers or you just had a typo. You thought it was 24 and you put 36?

    :confuse:
  • bmw62bmw62 Posts: 2
    535xi
    6020 miles
    taxes, title and bank down
    was $57k
    price brought down to $53k
    30 mo lease $642
    12k miles/yr

    what do you think -- worth exploring further?
  • gouclagoucla Posts: 27
    hi Car_man - do you have the curent BMW FS lease #s for a 2008 528i (sport, prem, nav, ipod, metallic, MSRP$52,475/$48,270 Inv)?

    Need MFs and RVs for 24/36 months, 12k/15k. Any addl cash incentives/mktg support?

    How about same lease #s for 535i (sport, prem, nav, sport shift, ipod, metallic, MSRP$57,875/$53,235 Inv)? Addl cash incentives/mktg support?

    Thanks.
  • gouclagoucla Posts: 27
    Dear Car_Man and kyfdx (or anyone else who knows),

    I'm looking at leasing either 535i or 528i, was going through my notes from back in December 2007, for some reason I had written down some numbers which I don't remember where I got them from.

    The base invoice price for the 535i was written down as $42,265, but edmunds and kbb both say $45,450 now, do you know what the difference is?

    Also a big difference on the 528i, I wrote down $37,905 as the base invoice price back in 12/07, but currently edmunds and kbb both say $40,755.

    Can you help me figure this out? Also, I wrote down $1k cash incentive in 12/07, is that still in effect?

    thanks very much

    Brian
  • gouclagoucla Posts: 27
    I remember now, that was European delivery pricing, which I dont think I'll do.

    anyone know if the $1000 dealer cash is still in effect?
  • mr_g_35_smr_g_35_s Posts: 10
    Vehicle Sales Price (Before Customer Cash Rebate): + $73,020

    Sales Tax (see explanation): % 8.375 +$6,115

    Title, Registration & Other Costs: + $775

    Customer Cash Rebate: – $(2000) This is my problem, Is this correct, or should this 2,000 be more of a rebate???? Help please!!!!!

    Cash Down Payment: – $2750


    Lease Term (months): 30

    Lease Residual Value: $49,654

    Money Factor: 0.00210

    Miles Driven per Year: 10,000

    Acquisition Fee: $500

    Security Deposit: $1,000



    Total Amount to be Financed: $68,245

    My Monthly Payment (tax included): $939.95

    So 2,000 off the MSRP, Is that high , low, right on, Do you see any other problems on these numbers? THANK YOU in advance for any help!!!
  • mr_g_35_smr_g_35_s Posts: 10
    BMW Financial Services Lease Programs – April 2008

    2008 BMW 128i Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 76% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 128i Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 74% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 135i Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 135i Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 72% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 46% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 37% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 328Ci Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00195 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00195 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 42% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 328xi Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00195 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00195 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 33% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 328i Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 42% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 35% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 328xi Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00175 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 40% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 32% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 328i Wagon
    24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 38% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 328xi Wagon
    24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 38% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 328i Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 73% of MSRP – .00245 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00245 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 35% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 335i Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 69% of MSRP – .00230 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00230 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 33% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 335xi Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 69% of MSRP – .00230 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00230 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 335i Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 335xi Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 42% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 35% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 335i Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 69% of MSRP – .00245 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00245 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW M3 Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 64% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 53% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 35% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW M3 Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 66% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 44% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 35% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW M3 Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 49% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 528i Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 73% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 528xi Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 535i Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 38% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 535xi Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 535xi Wagon
    24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00190 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 27% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 550i Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 69% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 33% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 26% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW M5 Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 70% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 650Ci Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 38% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 32% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 650CiC Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 69% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW M6 Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 69% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 42% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW M6 Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSR
    BMW Financial Services Lease Programs – April 2008

    2008 BMW 128i Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 76% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 50% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 128i Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 74% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 48% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 135i Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 47% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 39% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 135i Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 72% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 59% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 46% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 37% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    &#P – .00250 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residu
  • mr_g_35_smr_g_35_s Posts: 10
    2008 BMW M6 Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 60% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 750i Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 65% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 32% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 26% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 750Li Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 65% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 32% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 26% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW 760Li Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 42% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 30% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 24% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW Alpina B7 Sedan
    24 Month – Residual 55% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 45% of MSRP – .00200 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 34% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 28% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW X3 3.0si 4WD SUV
    24 Month – Residual 74% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 64% of MSRP – .00250 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 36% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 30% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW X5 3.0si 4WD SUV
    24 Month – Residual 68% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 36% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW X5 4.8i 4WD SUV
    24 Month – Residual 68% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 38% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW X6 xDrive35i
    24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 51% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 41% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 35% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    2008 BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 52% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 36% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 29% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW Z4 3.0i Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00220 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00220 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 37% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 29% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW Z4 3.0si Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 71% of MSRP – .00220 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 61% of MSRP – .00220 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 36% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 29% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW Z4 M Coupe
    24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 36% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 29% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    2008 BMW Z4 M Convertible
    24 Month – Residual 67% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    36 Month – Residual 57% of MSRP – .00210 Base Rate
    48 Month – Residual 38% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate
    60 Month – Residual 31% of MSRP – .00258 Base Rate

    Residuals posted are for 15K miles/year. Add 2% to Residual for 12k mi/yr and 3% for 10k mi/yr on all terms

    Use the following formula to calculate a lease payment:

    (Cap Cost – Residual Value) / Term = Depreciation
    (Cap Cost + Residual Value) X Money Factor = Interest
    Depreciation + Interest = Base Monthly Payment
  • Hello all, need some help on the following for a 528i in Charlotte, NC. Black 528i, premium package with black leather, heated seats, iPod and xenon.

    MSRP 49,075
    Selling price of 47.075
    36 month lease with 10K a year
    $1,116 down (includes first payment)
    $684 a month.

    This seems really high to me - rookie here and would really appreciate some advice. Thanks.
  • bmw62bmw62 Posts: 2
    535xi
    6020 miles
    taxes, title and bank down
    was $57k
    price brought down to $53k
    30 mo lease $642
    12k miles/yr

    what do you think -- is this worth exploring further?
  • x021627x021627 Posts: 148
    is this at Morristown BMW? I am asking since a few months ago I recall a CA there emailing me about a similar car when I was looking. I think you should see the best deal you could get on a NEW 535xi similarly equipped. People are getting good deals and there is alot of competition in NJ since there are so many dealers. Also if you want an XI who is looking to buy those in the Spring?

    Good Luck and let us know how you make out!

    :)
  • gjonesmigjonesmi Posts: 4
    I have been offered a 2008 535i lease that they are quoting a 24 month residual of 73% and a money factor of .023. Does this sound correct.
  • car_rmcar_rm Posts: 47
    The MF quoted makes sense as long as you understand that the dealer has bumped is up by .0004, the maximum that they can increase it by. This increase can be negotiable depending on the dealer.
  • gjonesmigjonesmi Posts: 4
    I do understand they bumped up the money factor but it also looks like they bumped up the residual. Will one offset the other?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,539
    The 73% residual is correct for 24mo/24K miles...

    The 24mo/30K residual is 71%..

    The dealer can't change these numbers.. they are set by BMWFS

    regards,
    kyfdx

    MODERATOR
    Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • I am being told by a dealer in Atlanta that the April 2008 BMWFS buy rate of 0.0019 can only be obtained by returning BMW customers. Is this true? He's quoting a 0.00285 rate.
    Thanx
    Walt
  • smithsongasmithsonga Posts: 123
    You are being taken for the typical ATL dealer ride.

    Call BMW in Macon or Athens and talk to their internet guys. They can pull the car out of the ATL dealer and save you $.
  • The Atlanta dealer has come down to 0.00225, and claims that I can lock this in for 30 days if I get the BMWFS credit application in before close of business 30 Apr. He also claims that they will not go any lower on the money factor. From reading here, I should be able to get 0.00190 + 0.00015 without a security deposit. He's quoting $720 not including tax on a 36 month, 10K miles lease. MSRP 56670 Cap cost 53500 (no fees included according to him, but I can't find acq fee) 63% residual Money factor 0.00225. Total up front: 1st month payment, doc fee, tax, title, tag = $1365. Claims to know that May residuals and money factors are going up, and is pushing real hard to get an end of month sale. My figures show $713.76 monthly before tax with an acq fee of 625 included in cap cost.
    What do y'all think?
  • bears22bears22 Posts: 3
    Anyone know when BMW is doing a substantial make-over of the 5 series? Anyone seen any images of it?
  • I think it was a good deal. My sales person said to come by tomorrow for a similar one!

    2008 535i
    MSRP - 59,075 (premium, sport, sport auto, ipod, nav, heated seats, park distance)
    Invoice - 54,805
    Sales Price - 53,379
    Residual 43,125
    $1511 drive off
    $699/month, 24 months

    Got to love month end!
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,600
    Smokin' deal !
  • gvitalik1gvitalik1 Posts: 29
    Is this including tax?
  • Yes, including tax. I think it was like $648.xx plus about $50 in tax/month
  • gouclagoucla Posts: 27
    supershopper1 - that sounds like an awesome deal, how did you negotiate them down to $1500 BELOW invoice??? Is there dealer cash or holdback?

    Does this deal change on May 1?

    Thanks and congrats!
  • Thanks goucla. There was a $1900 dealer incentive on certain models (5 series, 3 series coupes, i think 7 series). They said it was through April only, but given the economy (salesperson said they were down about 15%), i wouldn't be suprised if it's still available. They also brought down the money factor, and the residual on the 24 month lease of the 535i at 12k miles/year was a solid 73%.
  • gouclagoucla Posts: 27
    supershopper1 - thanks for the color, and still what an amazing deal at $400 over dealer cost (after the $1900 incentive). May I ask what was the money factor?
  • I think the money factor was .00205 (they had started at .00225)
  • petppetp Posts: 43
    leased a 5 series almost 3 years ago and put around $4K as a cap-cost reduction. so a normal used 5 series has a retail value of $32K, but my current buyout is $28K. can i negotiate this $28K even lower...to say $25K or not?

    many thanks
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