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Car_man
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I’m looking to buy a new 528i and after talking to a Texas dealer he gave me a quote for a 2013 528i with Premium, Driver Assistance, Technology, Heated Front Seats, Multi-contour Seats, and Rear-seat entertainment:
msrp - $59,695.00
sale - $57,000.00
upfront - $4,500.00 including first month payment
monthly - $750.00
residual - 57%
MF - 0.00175
15k miles a year
42 months
Do you think this is a good deal? I would really appreciate any comments you may have.
I want to lease a 2013 bmw 550 in the next few weeks. What would the buy rate from BMWFS be on a car if I am going to lease with 10000 miles/year and I am going to max out on the MSD option?
Thanks!
Appreciate any advice you can provide this newbie with regarding the following scenario.
I am new to BMW and new to luxury cars in general. Working hard and finally willing to pony up some dough for a new luxury car. Test drove the 535ix and, must say, was impressed:
Car has an MSRP of $61470. The dealer offered to price it for a sale at approximately $1000 over invoice. When I discussed the possibility of leasing, the discount from MSRP "dropped" to 59,000 with a cash cap reduction of $1160. On my lease sheet, the adjusted cap cost is ~$57000.
I am being offered a money factor of .00155, residual value of 56% and 15,000 with overage at .15 per mile. I am being asked to put $2500 down and there are registration and doc fees of $503. A rebate is listed at $2000 (not sure where it applies...but I think it works its way into the adjusted cap cost).
Can anyone tell me if this is a reasonable deal and/or what areas I should negotiate to make this a better deal? Final payment works out to 721 per month before taxes.
Many thanks in advance for any assistance. Happy to provide additional info, if needed.
GM
BMW is currently providing a $2,000 Holiday Credit on leases of this car.
Car_man
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I am interested in 535xi lease. The dealer has a 2012 model which he may price at or below invoice.
Could you give me the money factor & residual value for 12000 miles/yr for 36 months?
Could you also give me a approximate target price ?
Thanks
Thanks
Can you let me know what Nov's rates are for a 36 month 15K year lease on a 2013 535 xDrive?
Did it change from last months 59%/.00135 ?
Thank you!!!!
I would appreciate if you could share the money factor and residual values for 12k/15k miles lease. Also, do you know if BMW runs any other specials in addition to $1,000 Holiday Credit and $750 Loyalty Cash?
As always, thanks a lot!
Thanks!
That'd most likely be .00125 and 55% with a $2,000 holiday credit available (through the beginning of January, I think), per Car_man's previous response to derekia.
Car_man,
Do you, by chance, have the 39-month, 12k/year figures for that same model?
Thanks!
Make sure to take advantage of the $3,500 in dealer cash that dealers were paid out on this car in your negotiations. If I was going to lease one now, I would want to get it for thousands below invoice...say $2,500 to $3,000 under. That's just me, but you get the idea.
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There is $2,000 holiday cash available on this car in November that was not there in October. Make sure to take it into account during your negotiations.
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The residual value for a lease with only 12,000 miles per year would be 2% higher.
You are correct about the $1,000 holiday bonus and $750 loyalty cash. Other than a tiny bit of back-end money that's about all that's available on this car right now.
Car_man
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In November BMW is providing $2,000 holiday cash and $750 loyalty cash on this model.
Car_man
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What rebates/support can I combine on a lease for a 2013 528 or 535?
Also, can you confirm that November MF for 2013 528/535 is .0013? Was hoping it was still .00125, but looks like it bumped up a bit. Residual for 10K/36 mo lease is still 60%?
Thanks again.
thanks
would you please check November rates for 2013 550ix. Both 36 and 39 months with 12,000 miles.
Thank you very much.
First, I am looking for lease in the 5-600 range with no money down. I am not buying the car at the end of the lease. I have been looking at activehybrid 5 or a 528ix. Is this doable and how much should I expect to pay from a dealer. I currently own a bmw 750li and am leasing a 128i. What would you recommend?
Second, I am looking for a lease in the 3-400 range with no money down. I am not buying the car at the end of the lease. I have been looking at 128i convertable, xdrive 28i and z428i. Is this doable and/or how much should I expect to pay from a dealer. What would you recommend?
Thanks for your help in advance!
I have been following your posts for 6 series for sometime. I decided to stick to 5 series for versatility (i.e.-Rear folding seats, spacious back seating) Thank you for sharing all your knowledge and helping everyone save money.
I ordered a 2013 M5 a week ago. Since the car is being built to order, the dealership told me that they can't really give any discounts of any sorts. My friend's dad who owns a dealership up in San Francisco told me average markup is 18%. For a MSRP at $104K, that certainly gives a lot of wiggle room.
My question to you Car_man is what discounts/rebates would you go for on a MSRP of $104K? I want to be far, I don't want to get the car for free, but I also don't want to be the guy who could have got $5K off and didn't. Thank you in advance for your help!
I am looking to lease a 535i 36 or 39 months, 10k miles a year. What's the current MF and residuals and what incentives are there?
Thanks!
Is December a good time to lease a car? Is BMW doing an big savings deals?
Big thanks for your help!!
What is the December money factors and residual for a 2013 535i
36 months / 15,000 miles per year
or
30 months / 20,000 miles per year
thank you
The people there expect great deals but if you monthly payment is relatively low you should be able to find buyers.
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The money factor for the '13 528i is .00130. The money factor for the '13 535i is .00125. The residuals for 36 / 10 are 58% for the 528i and 60% for the 535i.
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msrp: 53,695
residual value: 55%
Money Factor: 1.3
12,000 miles
39 month lease
total drive off: $2500
Monthly payment including tax: $562
premium package, navigation, anthracite wood
Can u please let me know if this is off?
thank you
Car_man
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As far as this car's pricing goes, a base without any options M5 Sedan has a spread of $8,000 between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. On top of that there's a $2,000 holiday cash incentive available on this car right now, giving you a minimum of $10,000 to play with in your negotiations.
I personally would want a significant discount on this car, but again it may be difficult to get one on an ordered vehicle. If you haven't officially placed your order yet, you may want to consider shopping around to see if another dealer would be more reasonable on the price.
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The numbers for an otherwise identical 39-month lease are .00125 and 58%.
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As far as the cash incentives go, there is $1,000 holiday cash and $750 loyalty cash on this model right now.
December is an excellent time to get a new car. BMW is running additional behind the scenes volume incentives for dealers and is really hammering on them to try to rack up as many sales as possible in an effort to outsell Mercedes-Benz for the year.
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The numbers for an otherwise identical 36-month lease are .00125 and 57%.
If you need to drive more than 15,000 miles per year, you have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. It is less expensive to do so at lease signing than it is to wait until lease-end and have to pay an excess mileage penalty.
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was looking at a 535i with navi, performance package, driver assistance package. dealer went through a bunch of number crunching and fancy terminology but basically came down to me plunking 30k down for the lease as a 1 time payment rather than 31-32 if i space it out and put no money down. the MSRP on the car is about 64k
I have read a bit about these one-pay leases and there (like most things) seems to be mixed reviews. Was wondering what your thoughts would be?
thanks
Looking for the latest lease rates on a 2013 528i for 39 months and 10K/year. I was quoted .0013 and 56%, does that sound right? Is a 535 with same terms much better right now?
Thanks so much!
Alpine White
Beige Interior
M Package
Premium Package
Technology Package
Heated Front Seats
Sports Tranny
Premium Sound
MSRP - $58570.00
Selling Price - $54,955.00
39 month/10k mile - Monthly payment of $733.00 with $1,000 Out of pocket
Earlier you mentioned that dealers are given 2500 to 3500 as an incentive, is that still going on. I believe you mentioned 3500 for a 2013 535. I am in the process of negotiating a lease and I have already been quoted just below the edmunds invoice on a 67,670 MSRP car. However, the dealers also quote their invoice as higher. Nevertheless, if the indicated invoice on edmunds is 62,240 what should I be aiming for as a STEAL of a selling price? Thanks for your help.
Need some expert advice from you.
Here is what is offered to me: MSRP 56K for 528i – TECH/REAR VIEW /Premium pack with Heated seats.
Discounted price- 52 K.
Lease option for 12k/year- is with money factor of ..00170 and 55% residual
They are charging me acquisition fees of $925 and tax and with my trade-in of $9500.
Also, they are offering a holiday credit of $1750.
The lease quote is $473/month for 39 months.
I need to make a decision if to go ahead on this.. Please suggest?
Thanks much in advance.
Read through these boards more, become familiar with what's key in lease calculations and negotiate based on that knowledge. Check Edmunds new car calculator for the invoice price of your vehicle. Don't do any more then a few hundred dollars above invoice. THEN subtract all incentives and holiday credits from the negotiated price of the vehicle. When you get the lease number from the dealer, plug everything into a lease calculator to make sure that the numbers add up.
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How could i use my trade-in then?
Please share your knowldege looking into my situation & For MF and residual value looks right?
A down-payment on the lease is not preferential. By putting a down-payment on a lease, you are renting a car, paying a non-refundable payment IN ADVANCE for the rental, and risking losing your money should the car be totaled or stolen.
Scroll up in the thread to see car_mans's most recent lease numbers response. It appears that yours a bit higher then usual, may be due to not-top-tier credit. Also your acquisition fee looks a couple hundred dollars higher then typical.