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  • lexusbilllexusbill Member Posts: 59
    hi all, for a G37 RWD with ~$38500 MSRP, what would be an ideal selling price? i am in socal/LA. thx
  • d_nyholmd_nyholm Member Posts: 80
    Is this where we get q50 residuals and money factor since there is no forum for them? If so, I'm looking for residuals and money factors on 39 month 12k mile leases.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,068
    Base, Premium or Sport?

    2WD or AWD?

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  • d_nyholmd_nyholm Member Posts: 80
    Didn't realize they were different as they were not on my current 2010. Would probably be premium and sport with awd unless I can find a rwd here!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,068
    All AWD sedans are .00168 for top tier MF...

    Residuals are 61% for 39mo 15K mi/yr for Premium... 59% for Sport (those are two different models for the Q50)

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  • elgin2kelgin2k Member Posts: 9
    Hi guys,

    Thought I'd ask a questions and clarify all this stuff before I go through with this purchase. Appreciate any feedback!

    I am looking to Lease a G37 sedan in regards to a special that the Infiniti dealership is having in my area. I'm looking at different models but I will give the details of the one I really want. Unfortunately I don't have the money factors, residuals, or cap so please bear with me.

    All are for 10kmi/24months leases.

    Advertised Special in Miami, FL:

    MSRP: $33,455.00 10k mi/ 24 months

    Money Down: $999.00
    Inception: $700
    Dealer Fee: $595
    First Month Payment:$ 249.00
    With Tax, Title transfer and all other fees Total out of pocket is
    ~$2800 with $249/m + tax (7%)

    With all upfront built into monthly payments $383.00 due at signing and payments are 383/m incld tax
    What do you guys think about this deal???

    Now what I want is a G37 sedan with the premium package that has illuminated kick plates, first aid kit, trunk net, and carpeted trunk mat. The MSRP is $36,525.00. With Everything built in all I need is first month's upfront which comes to $415 and then $415/m incldg tax.

    Unfortunately my credit came up as 644 so I only qualified for Tier 5 money factors the actual rates of what they offered me are $410/m incld tax for the first one that was stated above and $435/m incldg tax for the more expensive one that I want with the prem pkg and kickplates. Any help appreciated!!!! I am unexperienced with leases, please tell me what is also negotiable and how to get the best rate possible.

    FYI this is my first lease, and my first time buying from this praticular dealership, I'm not trading in and no current infiniti's in the household. I'm coming from a BMW. Thank you!!!!!!!

    -Elgin2k
  • firstimeinfifirstimeinfi Member Posts: 26
    I was wondering if the average paid in truecar.com includes all other fess including (doc fee, gov fee, cap tax, acquisition fee).
  • lexusbilllexusbill Member Posts: 59
    what is the selling price?
  • elgin2kelgin2k Member Posts: 9
    The MSRP's are the selling price.
  • rr5555rr5555 Member Posts: 2
    Hi all, here are the details on a 2013 G37x with premium package, can you let me know if I am getting a decent deal and where to push in terms of getting reductions? Thanks so much!

    2013 Infiniti G37x
    MSRP: $37,555
    Sales Price: $35,470.43
    Tag and Title: $52.50
    Doc Fee: $399
    Aquisition Fee: $700
    Trade Allowance: $300

    39 Month Lease with 12,000 miles a year
    $0 Down + First Payment due at signing : $399 a month
  • rr5555rr5555 Member Posts: 2
    the mf is .00076 and residual is 23284.10
  • 64221306422130 Member Posts: 47
    I am interested in a G37 lease and there is a lot of great information here.

    I would prefer a Coupe but only if not too much higher monthly - in general, how much more is a Coupe monthly versus a generally similarly equipped Sedan?

    Is the 24 month payment with zero out of pocket generally more or less than the 39 month payment - seems to favor 24 months?

    Is $380 or so pretax realistic for a sedan and $400 for Coupe for either 24 or 39 months?

    Thanks,
    Bryan
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    Your invoice price is $35,632 so you're getting a discount of ~$1,240 below that. I think your sale price is in the ballpark of what I've seen recently posted here. Do you qualify for the IFS loyalty rebate of $1,000? I don't see you mention it. If your sale price already factored that in, then it doesn't seem as good.

    Have you gotten quotes from other dealers? Assuming a 6% PA tax rate for you, I see that you're capitalizing the $700 bank fee plus about $80 add'l/doc fee for net cap cost of $35,169. That plus an additional $228 fees in your drive-off. Does that sound about right?

    Assuming the above breakdown is correct, you may try to target a monthly payment at $300. If they knock off about $400 from the sale price to $33,963, that gets you there. Plus, your 3 deposits become $900 instead of $1,050, reducing your up-front cash.

    As far as the Navi, you can easily get a good GPS using an iPhone or Android app for free, or get a cheaper GPS unit. It's only a required add-on for folks who want the Sport trim, but is nothing special.
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
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  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    I doubt the selling price is the MSRP. Most advertised specials feature some sort of dealer contribution.

    Using a MF of 0.00021 and 73% residual, I back into a selling price around $30,733 based on the numbers you provided. That's about $639 below invoice. Not great.

    Forget the advertised lease deal when you talk to the dealer. That is never the best deal you could get.

    Instead, simply ask him what the selling price of the vehicle is that you are considering. Have them also disclose the money factor and residual they are quoting you.

    Then, get competing quotes through email from other dealers on the same spec vehicle. That way you'll get a sense of the market selling price in your area. Then you can negotiate the selling price, which is where you can lower your monthly payments (plus lower the dealer/doc fees). The residual is set by IFS, and the MF is what you qualify for. You may get a dealer who is will to bump you up a credit tier on the MF to close out the deal.

    I think you are getting about invoice price on the vehicle with the premium package. Push for more the $1,000 less.
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • lexusbilllexusbill Member Posts: 59
    ok, is $4k off from a $40255 g37 seem ok? i read some are getting ~4500-4800 off

    btw, to get to .00001 MF you just need 2 Sec deposit
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    No. I think dealer incentives are included but direct to customer rebates plus dealer/doc fees and taxes are not.
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • kdaherkdaher Member Posts: 1
    This is my first lease so I'm just becoming familiar with the terminology and how everything works. The information that I have from the dealer...

    MSRP: $35,610
    Selling Price (including destination charge): $32,610
    15,000 miles
    24 months
    289/mo. with $1,999 down

    Any help is greatly appreciated on if this is a good deal or not and where to go from here since I am new at this. Thank you!
  • firstimeinfifirstimeinfi Member Posts: 26
    I believe I do not qualify for any incentives or rebates. Do you think that I can get the car below 1,000 invoice price?

    Thanks,
  • firstimeinfifirstimeinfi Member Posts: 26
    I believe I do not qualify for any incentives or rebates. Do you think that I can get the car below 1,000 invoice price?

    The truecar.com price is 35,240 with nav and prem package.

    Thanks,
  • d_nyholmd_nyholm Member Posts: 80
    can anyone share the residuals and money factors on:
    2013 G37x sedan 24 month 12k miles
    2013 G37 Sport 6MT 24 Month 12k miles

    By looking through the forum I think it is 72% and .00018 but it wasn't stated if it was a coupe or sedan which will change a lot. Using those numbers though, I calculated a payment of about $300/month using the Costco discount and having the $1000 Infiniti loyalty applied on top of that (if it is possible). That sounds great considering the car will be more loaded than my current G37x and will be about $60 cheaper per month on a shorter term. These seem like blow out prices to me!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,068
    can anyone share the residuals and money factors on:

    2013 G37x sedan 24 month 12k miles
    .00038 MF and 72% residual

    2013 G37 Sport 6MT 24 Month 12k miles (sedan?)
    .00021 MF and 71% residual

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  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    Not good. I understand leases have gotten a little more expensive since they announced the price drop on 2014s/remaining 2013s, but this is too high. I'm at $350/month before tax on a G37xS that includes navi and kick plates etc. on a 24mo/15K lease.

    Granted, I think the sweet spot on pricing is still on 24 month leases. But your sale price is above invoice. You should definitely push for a sale price much below invoice from seeing what others have been posting lately. How much lower depends on your region and the availability where you're at.
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    I think a coupe is significantly more because the $4,800 price cut on G37s only applied to the sedans. Posted selling prices on sedans have fallen since then, but I have not seen the same on coupes.

    From what I've seen, pricing does seem to favor the 24 month lease term.

    You can definitely get $380 pretax on a sedan. I don't know enough of coupe MF, residuals, and current selling prices to comment on that. But I'm guessing the difference is around $80-$100 per month.

    What trim are you looking for? You could check Edmunds TMV and Truecar/Carsdirect pricing to see current retail ceiling selling prices in your area.
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    What are the MF and residual that you are quoted? What is the cap cost and net cap cost? Is the $1,999 down all cap cost reduction, or is part of it to defray bank fee, doc and dealer fees, and TTL? What is your tax rate.

    We need that info before we can truly say if you are getting a good deal. For now, your selling price is ~$700 below invoice. It's decent, but I think there's more room there to negotiate.
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    When I was shopping deals in late June, one dealer told me that their quote to Truecar included $3,500 in purchase dealer cash, which was different than the $2,500 lease purchase cash. So they increased their Truecar quote to me by $1,000 to account for that difference. But the Truecar dealer price was below the average price at the time.

    That was in June, so I don't know what lease dealer cash is available now. That said, I was able to get a price below the Truecar price in the end. How does your Truecar price compare to invoice currently? Is that your Truecar guaranteed dealer price or Truecar average selling price? They're not the same obviously.

    What you're able to get would depend on where you are. I'm in L.A. and it's a very competitive market here. Shoot for $1,000 below invoice, get competing quotes, and then see where you're at.
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • lexusbilllexusbill Member Posts: 59
    hi, what is the approximate invoice on a $40250 G37 sedan? thx
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    Pick the RWD or AWD(x) version of the car you are considering along with the options on either of these sites and you should see the correct invoice price.

    http://www.edmunds.com/infiniti/g-sedan/2013/options.html
    https://www.truecar.com/prices-new/infiniti/g37-sedan-pricing/
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • master7365master7365 Member Posts: 1
    I am finishing up a 39-month lease on a G25 and am starting to look into a 2013 G37. Below is a quote I got from a local dealership. Do these sound like good values?

    2013 G37 SEDAN PREMIUM PACKAGE
    MSRP $36710.00

    39 MONTHS 10K MILES PER YEAR

    $2000.00 TOTAL OUT OF POCKET( INCLUDING INCEPTIONS , FIRST PAYMENT , TAX, TITLE, DEALER FEE , BANK FEE)
    Monthly Payment - $300 TAX INCLUDED

    $3000.00 TOTAL OUT OF POCKET( INCLUDING INCEPTIONS , FIRST PAYMENT , TAX, TITLE, DEALER FEE , BANK FEE)
    Monthly Payment - $275 TAX INCLUDED

    $4000.00 TOTAL OUT OF POCKET( INCLUDING INCEPTIONS , FIRST PAYMENT , TAX, TITLE, DEALER FEE , BANK FEE)
    Monthly Payment - $248 TAX INCLUDED

    Does anyone know when the 2014s are being shipped?
  • newleaser3newleaser3 Member Posts: 1
    The dealer is basically offering me the deal on the website for a 2013 G37X journey

    $2699 fee which includes first month lease

    payments of $299 per month

    10k miles, 12k for an additional $25 per month.

    $700 Bank Fee

    ~$500 sales tax

    other Dmv fees not included

    I have been looking online at how to negotiate a lease and know that you are supposed to negotiate the MSRP down. Online also gives a way to calculate lease payments. According to my calculations the lease should be over $500 per month. I may be doing something wrong. Is the deal offered so good that it is not negotiable? Is it realistic that there is any room for negotiation here???
  • d_nyholmd_nyholm Member Posts: 80
    Are there any incentives available if you are coming from an existing Infiniti lease? I thought I read about a $1000 incentive for that?
  • mrbaseball44mrbaseball44 Member Posts: 7
    Finally completed my deal last week.

    MSRP: $40,810

    Sale Price: $36,316

    Negative Equity: ($1,431)

    Infiniti Loyalty: $1,000

    Capitalized Cost: $35,885

    My payment is $385 after CA tax, for 15K miles per year on a 24 month lease. I payed $0 out of pocket to lease the car and I have 23 payments left. I can't remember the money factor or the resididual off the top of my head, but if I didn't have to roll in the negative equity from my old lease the payment would have been $339 including the $1,000 of Infiniti Loyalty. Thanks again for everyone on the forum who helped me get this deal.

    To others who are trying to negotiate a deal, I would advise to put $0 out of pocket on any lease. Also anyone looking to get a similar deal in So Cal PM me and I can give you the dealers name I worked with, was able to complete the whole deal through email and over the phone. Got to the dealership on Friday night at 6:30PM and was out by 8:00PM. By far the smoothest auto lease I have ever had and this is my 5th lease.
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    Very nice; you were able to get $1,400 below invoice. Do you mind sharing the details of your lease calculations when you get a chance? I can't seem to get to your payment amount based on the numbers you provided, including the negative equity (assuming MF of 0.00021 and 70% residual).

    Is IFS no longer offering the pull-ahead program to offset your negative equity in your last Infiniti lease?

    $8,855 total out of pocket for 24/15 looks like a great deal. Enjoy your ride.
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • carshopper110carshopper110 Member Posts: 6
    Jkipster- ifs loyalty lease is not APPlicable as I do not own infinity. The best I could negotiate is 314 and rest of the figures are as I mentioned before. I am sitting at dealer showroom finalizing the deal. Please let me know if any other input. You are a big help in this forum
  • d_nyholmd_nyholm Member Posts: 80
    Another option would be to put in a Costco price request and see if that price is lower than the negotiated price. If so, either tell them to take that price or walk to the other dealership that gave it to you. It is set in stone.
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    Others have been able to qualify for the loyalty rebate by finding a friend or family member who owns an Infiniti to co-sign the lease. Do you know anyone like that?
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • carshopper110carshopper110 Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2013
    Thanks Jkipster for words of wisdom. Unfortunately, I do not know someone who has infinity. I got the car tonight.
    g37 AWD, Prm package, 2 year, 12K miles per year

    msmrp 38310
    sale price 34389
    residual 27966
    acquisition 700
    clerical 150
    govt fees 68
    deposit 1050
    drive off 1580 (including 1050 deposit+ first month-314)
    per month 314
    mf 0.00001
  • dnts4dnts4 Member Posts: 3
    kyfdx@Edmunds,

    Can you please provide the MF and residual for a 2013 G37x Coupe for 24 months/36 months for 12k miles a year?

    Thanks!
  • esgamesgam Member Posts: 29
    Would love the dealership name, city and state. And the first name of your salesperson! By paying $0 out of pocket, does that mean they covered the first month of your lease along with all those drive off fees, including registration? Sounds like you got a great deal to me! Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,068
    Nice job! A lot of car for a little money!

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,068
    "2013 G37x Coupe for 24 months/36 months for 12k miles a year"

    24 month.... .00003 and 65%

    36 month... .00038 and 56%

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  • JefferTechJefferTech Member Posts: 59
    kyfdx...

    Do you know the 24 month/15K Residual and MF for a G37 sedan w/ Navg?

    Thanks for your help on this forum!
  • jkipsterjkipster Member Posts: 270
    It sounds like you did your homework and got yourself a great deal. Well done!

    Enjoy the ride!
    2001 Passat
    2010 G37S Sedan
    2013 G37xS Sedan
    2014 QX60
    2015 Q40
    2016 QX60
    2016 E350 Sedan
    2017 QX60
    2019 E450 Wagon
    2021 Sienna XSE AWD
    2022 Lexus RX350
    2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
    2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,068
    "24 month/15K Residual and MF for a G37 sedan w/ Navg"

    2013 RWD automatic? .00021 and 71%

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  • zyaaaaazyaaaaa Member Posts: 36
    Hi, could you tell me the MF and Residual for a G37X Sedan with Premium Package and 10k mi/yr? I'm looking for an 18-24 month lease. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,068
    .00038 MF and 73% residual for 24mo, 10K/yr

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  • bafanabafana Member Posts: 8
    Please help a newbie with a lease deal in C/Florida for the following vehicle:

    2013 G37 Journey with Premium pkg, kick plates, splash guards & Trunk mat

    Sticker: $36,710
    24 month lease, 12K/year

    Residual and Money Factor?

    Dealer wants $999 total due at signing plus first months pmt of $416 plus tax (7%)

    I think it should be closer to $350 plus tax. Truecar shows vehicle's price as $32,829. Thank you.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,068
    .00021 MF and 71% residual..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • esgamesgam Member Posts: 29
    Mr. Baseball, it'd really help me out to know what dealership you were working with in SoCal. Thanks in advance!
  • lexusbilllexusbill Member Posts: 59
    edited September 2013
    you can also try cerritos infi, ask for grace at internet( email her, and tell her Will send you)
  • JefferTechJefferTech Member Posts: 59
    Here is the deal I was presented Friday:

    MSRP: 38005
    Sales Price: 35363
    Infiniti Loyalty: 1000
    Dealer "Adds": 2378 (this is the remaining payments on my current G Lease. Apparently no pull ahead from IFS right now.

    Tax: 679.68
    License, Reg, Fees: 262.19
    Acquisition Fee: 700

    70% Residual 26603.50

    24 Months/15K per year

    $859 Down (1st Payment + Reg, Fees) - $489.14 per month

    Car has Nav Package/Premium Package/Carpeted Trunk Mat/Net/1st Aid Kit

    What do you guys think? Any room for improvement?
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