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The numbers for an otherwise identical 48 month lease are .00169 and 50%.
The only cash incentive, other than a volume-based dealer cash promotion, that is available on this car right now is $1,000 owner loyalty cash on leases.
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What are the August base rates and residuals for a 2012 M37? Could you provide standard and top credit? Do you know what the threshold for top credit is?
Thanks!
I'm not sure what the exact credit score cutoff for this program is.
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Would you please tell me what the money factor and residual rate would be for a 2012 M37X w/premium package, 39 month, 17k mile/year?
Thanks!
MF will range from .00169 to .00563 (MAX) depending on credit. I would use .00211 to figure payments. Infiniti uses the .00169 to advertise payments on line and on TV but you have to have a 740+ to get that normally.....
39 months, 15000 miles per year, $0 down, $735 due at signing
$590.01 per month!
This is the same price I was paying on my FX35 that I put $4000 down and was stickered at $46k.
I think this is pretty good deal, what does anyone else think?
15,000 miles per year is the highest mileage allowance that IFS publishes residual values for. If you need to drive more than this, you will have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. It is less expensive to do so at lease-signing than it is to wait until lease-end and have to pay an excess mileage penalty.
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How do I calculate the lease payment given the above?
Looking for a Premium/deluxe touring/tech car. What monthly payments are you guys seeing on a sign and drive?
Do I use the MSRP or the neotiated price? How to I add sales tax? is there an on-line calculator?
If you can provide the MF, and rsiduals for an M37X for 39 months and 15 ans 18K? I would appreciate it.
What is my monthly?
How much do I have to give to drive off? 1st month only?
Can I get a better Cap?
Do I put more security deposits and if so how many and how does it affect any variables in my formula?
Any additional suggestions to get a better deal?
Thank you
Residual is based on MSRP (car sticker). Sales tax is added on at the end...and some of the incidental fees are taxed (I don't bother with those calculations).
61% residual
Money factor .00159
Cap cost 51600
Fees are paid by me upfront
780 + 1st month
Tax 6%
12k miles
36 months
Thank u
Keep in mind I currently have a 2009 FX50S fully loaded
The dealer is willing to buy it out for $39,898, the car buyout price is $38,804 i also currently have $8k security deposit on it. They would carry over the security deposit to the new car as well as the equity in the FX to the new car. Are these good deals?
The lease payments would be with 10k miles
The 2012 M37S w/ Sport Touring, Premium, and sport packages as well as the aerodynamic kit
MSRP is $58,695
It is a dealer demo with 504 miles on it.
I was given the quote of $577 a month with $8,206 security deposit and $1,200 (minus 1k customer loyalty $2,100 orig)
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2012 M37X w/ premium package and the aerodynamic kit
MSRP is $55,760
I was given the quote of $544 a month with $7,700 security deposit and $1,200 (minus 1k customer loyalty $2,100 orig)
61% residual
Money factor .00159
Cap cost 51600
Fees are paid by me upfront
780 + 1st month
Tax 6%
12k miles
36 months
Your monthly payment should be $652.55. However, are you sure that 780 cover all the cost? there is an acquisition fee that I think is 550 for Infiniti and the DMV tag (depending on your state but 230 for a brand new 60k car seem to be very low).
If you want to figure out the lease youself. The formular is:
Residual = MSRP*residual factor
= 56324*0.61
= 34358
depreciation = (cap cost - residual)/length of lease
= (51600-34358)/36
Rent = (cap cost + residual)*money factor
= (51600+34358)*0.00159
monthly payment = depreciation + rent
total payment = (depreciation + rate)*(1+sale tax rate)
Good luck
15,000 miles per year is the highest mileage allowance that IFS publishes residual values for. If you need to drive more than that you will have to purchase additional miles on a per-mile basis. It is less expensive to do so at lease signing than it is to wait until lease-end and have to pay an excess mileage penalty.
The following article describes how to use this data to calculate a payment: Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
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Can you please tell me the September MF, residual on 2012 M37x, 36 month and 39 month, 10K miles/month?
Thanks.
The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease are .00169 and 61%.
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I am hoping for a bit of insight from you, I am a novice when it comes to leasing and right now I feel like I don't really have the time to read up so I can become well informed on the topic. This leaves me with one other choice, which is to try to replicate some of the deals other members here have gotten and which were considered "great".
One earlier post here mentions a deal someone got on a 2011 M37x Premium lease for 39 months for a total of $2000 down ( Including bank fees, etc...) and $530/month with the taxes included in these numbers as well. The mileage was 10k/year.
Now, I do understand 2011's are no longer available and that deal was somewhere in Pennsylvania, while I am in the NYC area. But I was simply wondering, is that something I could hope to have matched by a local dealer here in NY?
And if your answer is no, then what would YOU consider a great deal that could be had for the month of October in NY on a 2012 Premium M37x 39 months lease with 10k miles / year?
I am looking to lease in the next 2 or 3 weeks.
Thanks so much and I hope I made at least a bit of sense here ....
P.S. I drive about 5 to 7k miles per year, but I see that Infiniti does not offer leases with less than 10k/year. Is there any way for me to use this to my advantage at the time of bargaining in order to bring the price down? Thanks again
You can try. But all car deal are local. It all depend on your local dealers inventory and how much they need to sell the next car. The best way to insure you get the best deal is to send email (or call whichever way work best for you) to all the dealers in your area. If you only have one or two dealers around where you live, you are out of luck trying to get the best deal. Normally the best deal is available in locations where there are a lot of competition (e.g S. California).
I drive about 5 to 7k miles per year, but I see that Infiniti does not offer leases with less than 10k/year. Is there any way for me to use this to my advantage at the time of bargaining in order to bring the price down?
No, not when you try to negotiate for the lease. Manufacturer and dealer really don't care how many miles you drive so long as you fit their program and they charge you. However, before you turn in your lease, you can always try to sell you car to a local dealer and see if you can get a better price than your lease termination price (e.g. if your residual for the lease is $35000 and you local dealer is willing to pay $36000 for you car. He will give you $1000 and send $35000 to infiniti financial to purchase the car. ) if you want to go that route, M is not for you. you need to get a really popular car to pull this off (e.g. a BMW or a Mercedes or a Lexus.. Depending on how popular each brand in your city). I leased an M37 for 10 months now and I only saw one other M in N. California.. M is not a very popular new car and it won't be a popular used car... Good luck..
If I was in the market for this car in the New York area, I personally would shoot for a selling price of $500 to $1,000 (preferably towards the lower side) over dealer invoice You can look up the exact invoice price of the vehicle that you are interested in over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunds.com.
Once you have agreed upon a selling price that you are comfortable with, have the dealer calculate your payment using a money factor of .00031 (39 months).
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Thanks
Thanks in advance.
The numbers for an otherwise identical 39-month lease are .00026 and 50%.
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After I have gotten some tips from Car man and others I have still decided to bargain for my car the "beginner" way, I have simply bargained for the down payment and monthly payments. I hope to hear from you guys that it wasn't a terrible deal... ha ha :
2012 M37x with premium and Deluxe touring packages
MSRP a little over 58K ( that's what dealer was saying, but seems about right)
I am paying $2200 which includes first month's payment, bank fees and other fees
DMV fees separate
$600/month including NY taxes for 39 months 10k per year
I hope they haven't made THAT MUCH money off of me !! Thanks guys
2012 M37s with premium package
Sticker Price: $56,563
Discount $4,930
Rebate $1,000
$5,500 down for 39 months @ .00026 (15,000 miles) = $523 plus tax = $557 per month
Any feedback is appreciated.
2012 M37x with premium package (came with about $800 in other options, ie illuminated kick plates, carpeted trunk mat, splash guards - seemed most cars came with this)
39 mo, 12000 miles
$3000 out of pocket (really $4000, but had $1000 in loyalty)
$529/mo (includes all taxes)
24 mo, 10k miles
$4,500 Total due at signing incl tax, tags, title, cap reduc and 1st month
$518/mo (includes tax @7.75%)
Thoughts?
Could you tell me what the February lease rates and residual % are for 36 and/or 39 month programs at 15k miles?
thanks
Would you happen to know what should be the value of miles in dollars going from a 15k to 12k for a 39 month lease?
thanks
The numbers for an otherwise identical 39-month lease are .00009 and 49%.
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I am looking to price a 2012 M37x 39mo/15k yr.
Can you advise. We all appreciate it.
Thanks.
Negotiate a selling price that's as close to dealer invoice as possible and then have the dealer calculate your payment using these numbers.
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555 $ A month for 39 months with $0 Down/$0 Security for M37X
Details
MSRP: $54825. Lease: $0 Dwn Pyt. + $555 1st Mo. Pyt. + $700 Bank Fee + $0 Sec Dep. = $1255 Due At Incep; Ttl. Pyts: $21645; Residual: $28509. Mi. allow: 10,000 mi./yr. 25¢ mi. thereafter. Price includes $1000 previous owner loyalty to qualified buyers only. See dealer for details on how to qualify. Tax, reg , DMV, and fees extra.
Do you think i can negotiate further, tho numbers look really good.
Thank you in Advance
Infiniti recently announced that it is providing a $500 cash incentive on leases of this car. Make sure to take this cash into account during your negotiations.
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Can you post the lease numbers for a M37x for 36 and 39 months at 10,000 miles a year?
I just left the dealership and they stated that 39 months is the "sweet spot" for Infiniti leases.
I'm eligible for Loyalty Cash, is it best to use that as part of my payment (cap cost reduction) or take it off of the selling price of the car?
Also, are there any other incentives available on this car?
The dealer mentioned that we might be able to use Conquest Cash.
How much would that be and how is it applied (off sales price or off of payment)?
Thanks!
I got an offer today on a M37x with Premium and illuminated door sills.
Details:
MSRP $54,555
Sales price: $50,780
Residual $28,561
39 month lease @ 10,000 miles per year
$588/month
$ 2300 down at closing which includes $1000 loyalty cash
Looks like a good deal but I'm having a hard time confirming the MF and residual rate so I'd appreciate some feedback from you guys.
Thanks
The numbers for an otherwise identical 39-month lease are .00020 and 50%.
I agree that the 39-month term is probably the most attractive term to lease this car for right now.
Using the loyalty cash as a capitalized cost reduction or having it subtracted from your car's selling price basically accomplish the same thing.
There is a $1,000 cash incentive on leases of this car right now. Make sure to take it into account as well when negotiating your deal.
I don't think that the conquest cash is available on this model any longer.
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I was able to get into a deal with no cash down and under $600/month. I have had the car for a week now and love it.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Richard
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