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I believe that its standard lease money factor varies by region, but it is probably around .00280 give or take a few tenths in your area right now for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.
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Can you please provide May's lease program for 2010 e350 4 matic sedan. I am looking to lease the car for 39 months and with 10 miles/year
Thank Arc
Thanks for the info..
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Does that sound like a good price? Just started looking.
Can you please help me with some information?
2010 E350 Sport Sedan
Expected Lease Date: May, 2010
Location: Northern CA (Santa Clara County)
• Base MSRP: 48,600
• Additional Costs (Metallic Paint – Leather Seats – Premium 2 Package – Parktronic with Parking Guidance): 9,610
• Transportation Charge: 875
Total MSRP (as built on mbusa.com): 59,085
Invoice (as per edmunds.com): 55,012
• What’s considered a good Negotiated Price?
• Is the Acquisition Fee for CA fixed at 1,095?
• If I finance my lease with Mercedes-Benz Financial is an Acquisition Fee of 795 the lowest possible?
• What is the Residual Value?
• What is the Money Factor?
• Using Multiple Security Deposits what is the lowest Money Factor possible?
• Would a 39-month lease term be a better deal?
• Which provide a better discount; AAA or Costco?
Thank you everyone ... this is such a great resource!
Was this deal on a 36-month term? What annual mileage is included?
Same money factor on the E550 convertible of .00395 and Residual value is 55% for 36 months 15,000 miles per year. Add two points for 12,000 miles per year, add 3 points for 10,000 miles per year and 4 points for 7,500 miles per year.
For a 36-month lease and 10,000 annual mileage ... does anyone know the residual value and money factor for a 2010 E350 Sport Sedan RWD?
Thanks.
Hope this helps.
Good Luck
msrp: $57,975
sale price: $51,281
cap cost: $53,771
downpayment: $2500
Month payment: $845
MF:0.002875
Residual value: 51%
39 months (with the option to return 6 months prior to that). 10k miles per year
MSRP 57395
cap cost 53000
cap cost red 2000-lease loyalty
adj cap cost 51000
residual 32715 - 57%
money factor .0021
term 39 months
tax 6% 638.96+38.34=677.30
mf reduced by .001 because of auto pay
cannot do multiple security deposits with subvented rate -std rate is .0028
What do you think? I'm going to let him know tomorrow. Thanks.
Paid $75425
I got $1500 off of MSRP on a Black/Black P2/Appearance package, rear deck spoiler, wood trim, premium leather, Mbrace, and rear side airbags.
I bought the car cash as leases and fiance rates were a total joke. The lease worked out to $1631 after tax in Ca and MBUSA has the nerve to try and charge 6.9% for 36 months on a car loan.
The salesman told me they got 2 cars in beside the one I ordered and both of the other buyers backed out of the deal because the lease terms were so high compared to CLK as they are almost 2x as much for a comparable E-Class Cab to CLK Cab which is why I was able to get the dealer to discount the car 24 hours after they received it as I threaten to walk as well.
I have a felling if my dealer experience is any indication then MBUSA is pricing them selfs out of the market or going to have a hard time moving these cars as 350 are leasing for just over $1300 in Ca after tax. And a Bentley continental leases for just under $2k a month after tax in CA and that car is worth almost 50% more.
Does anyone know the money factor for a Single Payment lease on a 2010 E350 Sport Sedan RWD. The lease term is 36-month, and mileage is 15K/year. Can this money factor be discounted further my Multiple Security Deposits?
So say if that happened after 3 months you really end up taking a bath. That is also why many people say putting down a large cap reduction at the start of a leases is not advisable either. MB includes free gap insurance with all their leases.
Instead of treating the pre-paid lease as a large CAP reduction, if the lease terminates early (involuntarily), the lease payments are pro-rated to that point, and there is a pro-rated refund of the pre-paid lease payment..
At that point, the lease works like a conventional lease, and GAP kicks in for any shortfall.
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This info came from the fiance manager and not mercedes benz financial so he could be totally wrong or maybe he know the pre-payment option was not going to be a good option or I was not going to like that payment either so said that just to save time as he never even bothered to quote a lease payment even on the pre-paid option.
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Thanks..
36/10k
They want 4k out of pocket - monthly payment would be $840 w/tax.. I'm in S. Fla my tax is 6.5%..
I still think this is high for a car priced this much. I have a 335 coupe that the sale price was about the same and I pay $700/month.
Is this the best deal on a coupe right now?
I have 4 payments left and I am looking to either purchase this car or lease another 2010 E350 P2 package with the panoramic roof.
Is it possible to do a similar lease for 36 or 39 months for the same monthly payment?
what would it take to get a deal like this done down payment wise, Residual, etc..?
I appreciate the help fellas!
Your not even close to what your going to be paying for that car... your looking at double of what you are currently paying now and you will have to come out of pocket WAY more...
Lease term: 39-month
Mileage: 15K/year
I have been told at a dealership that the MBF special (subventionary) rate for May is 0.00220 which cannot be bought down by multiple security deposits (MSDs) ... but the standard rate of 0.00280 can be bought down to 0.00210 by 10 security deposits. I was actually presented with a MBF document showing that MSDs cannot be used to buy down the special rate. How are folks getting the 0.00180 rate this month? Please share your thoughts...
E350 4 matic sedan
Steel Grey on Ash black interior
P2
Pano
Parktronic
Wheel Pkge
Sport Pckge
MSRP: $61,815
Selling Price: 57,450
Out of pocket: $3,870 (includes TTL + DMV + Fees + 1st Pmt + Cap Cost)
Monthly after tax: $788
12K miles per year
39 month
standard MF: 0.00220
Again not trying to upset you at all, but considering you read this board not sure why you would think you got a good deal as you over paid at least $1k or more depending if you had a previous mercedes or not.
I am new to this leasing game. I just accepted an offer from an MB dealership in Bayside, Queens, NYC on an E350 2010 new MB luxuary sedan. The agent told me that the price with a P1 package (navigation, etc) is $53,000. Since, I wanted my monthly payment to be below 500, he told me to put down $13,000 (thirteen thousand) due on signing. Then the monthly is 481. The tax in NYC is 8.875%. Have I been badly siwndeled? Please let me know, b/c he's holding my info. I am yet to sign on the deal b/c of the Memorial day weekend. PLEASE HELP if you can. I went through the other posts here, but the calculations with MFs eludes me a bit.
If not, then can somone recommend a MB dealership in NYC?
I personally would NEVER put money down on a lease, especially $13000. As I understand it, should the car be stolen or totaled, you're out that money - it's not covered by insurance.
Sounds like you have some more work to do here, including getting a better understanding of the lease process. Good luck.
Assuming you are not a returning MBF customer and you did the 39 month lease which is currently the special and you have good credit you payment including tax for 15k miles per year should be around $692.84 per month and your drive off would only be registration, first month lease and bank fee. If you were to do 12K miles per year your lease payment would be $644.17 including the same drive off, if you did a 10k miles per year lease the payment would be $617.28 with the same drive off and if you did a 7500 miles per year lease it would be $598.97 per month with the same drive off.
Just so you know my drive off numbers should run about $2k or so maybe less depending on what your DMV fee's are in NYS. So the lease you were quoted is basically paying sticker for the car which is a joke, goto Costco if you do not have a costco membership and pay $50 which will end up saving you $5K on your car purchase.
Also all my above numbers are based on the assumption the car we are talking about is an E350 with p1 package only, if your car is more equipped then all the numbers I quoted above are wrong, but getting E-Class Sedan at dealer invoice is reasonable or even below dealer invoice.
P.S. Just so you know putting down a $10k cap reduction reduces the payments by about $300 per month from the above prices.
I live in zip code 11423 in Queens. I was looking at E350 2010 with a 39 month lease and 7,500 miles per year.
The car only had a P1 package, not a P2, no panoramic roof or parktronic assist, etc. The dealer made it sound like why to go for the P2 package? Everything was in the P1.
The dealer said that the MSRP of the car was 56,000 and that he was giving it to me for 53,600. That was the best he could do. He even did the drama of calling his boss on the cell phone, etc and reduced 300 dollars.
What is cap reduction? Does it mean, roughly, that I am putting money toward my lease and not as down-payment? I really need my monthly payment to be low, like around 300 would be SUPER! But 400-500 would be fine. I don't want it to above $500. My credit score is 680, but I am getting another family member with a higher credit score to be a co-signee.
And how does the cap reduction work? What do I tell the sales agent? I will put down the roughly two to three thousand dollars of down payment, but then i want to put down a net ten thousand doallrs extra for cap reduction so that my monthly is low? Is that correct? Should I say that up-front to the sales rep? Or should I say that to the business manger?
How do i ask for a costco negotiated price at Raylle MB? Do I simply walk in and show them my costco membership card? Can I become a gold member? or something else? Is this really true? OR some kinda gimmick? I mean, just b/c you spent 50 bucks, will it really result in a 5,000 dollar reduction? Also, does this Costco negotiated price change every month?
Please take a moment and help me by answering whatever questions you can. i am aware that today is Memorial Day and you may not want to sit in front of the computer, but be with your family, but please look at it from my perspective: b/c of your kindness, I wil save a ton of money.
Thank you kindly
Costco basically gives you fleet pricing in effect, it is no scam, I have bought a couple of cars via Costco program. It is very simple if you have a Costco card, goto costco.com and click car buying service, then it will ask you for Costco card, then you log in and pick the car you want with the options you want and enter your zip code it will display the price and the list of participating dealers near your zip code. It tells you to print the web page and bring your costco card and goto one of the participating dealers.
I have no idea how to get to $56000 for a P1 car. If you add 4Matic and P1 only with metallic pant the car MSRP is $56,425 without metallic pant is $55,705. This is an exact science, If you are unable to provide complete and accurate info no one is going to be able to figure what the deal should be as depending on what car and options you get and amount of miles per year that can affect the residual or money factor.
Costco negotiated price is invoice which on P1 car is just under $5k savings. So you should try to pay around $4.5k less than MSRP if you are not a costco member anyways as E-Class Sedan is not a hot car at all.
With 7500 miles per year 39 month lease has a 59% residual. If you qualify for the best possible interest then the money factor should be 0.00220.
The way a lease works is their is a depreciation part and interest rate. When you put down a large payment upfront it basically reduces the amount of money you are borrowing which saves you both principle and interest over the lease term hence the term cap reduction which is short for capital reduction. The depreciation is based on paying MSRP, so the bigger discount or more money you put down the less depreciation your lease payment will have over the lease term, also because you are paying less for the car, you are borrowing less money hence you are paying less interest each month in your payment as well. But if your car is stolen or totaled before the end of your lease, the money you put down is not returned to you or prorated for the remaining months left on your lease term which is why most people say it is a very bad idea to put down a large cap reduction. If you have $13k why not put $10k in the bank and withdraw $257 per month and apply it to your $500 monthly payment? You would end up paying about $45 per month more after tax but if your car is totaled or stolen before the end of your lease term you would have some money still left in the bank.
Thank you ever so much! God bless you for your help. And my apologies for no giving the EXACT prices.
So here's the deal:
model number : E350 W4
MSRP: $56,500 for 4matic, P1- premium package, black exterior with black interior
He reduced this to $53,600 with $4,321 out of pocket with $737 per month
7,500 miles per year.
The P1 premium package that was offered is: Luxury sedan, wood leather wheel
COMAND with 40 Gbytes HA,
i-pod/MP3 media interface cable,
rear view camera,
Comand with navigation and voice control,
i-pod/MP3 media interface,
Sirius satellite radio,
Power rear window sunshade,
Herman/Kardon sound system with Dolby 5.1,
heated front seats
And with $13,000 I would pay $481.30 per month.
After 39 months, the car would be offered to to us for purchase for $32,000.
Now I have given you everything. PLEase, PLEASE write back.
Thank you.
E-350 prices is following:
Base $48600
P1 package $3950
Wood Steering Wheel $750
Destination Charge $875
Total $54175
So no idea how the car has an MSRP of $56,500 but if you look at the MSRP window you should be able to get $4.5-5k off sticker.
If the car is equipped like you claim it is and the MSRP is $54,175, with the costco discount the sales price should be $49,300. Doing a 39 month lease with 7500 miles per year assuming you can qualify for best money factor with a $10k cap reduction and $3k in drive off your lease payment after tax should be $376.11 per month. Every $1k dollars extra in the sales price should add approximately $20 to the lease payment per month.
Putting such a large cap reduction is not advisable at all, if the car is totaled in an accident or stolen you will be out that money but you are free to do whatever you want.