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  • pholliephollie Member Posts: 45
    folks,
    I've got a 2004 Aero 9-5 Wagon that has about 18 months to go on a 4 year lease. So far, unlike my prior Saabs, this car has been flawless. My question is, what should I do as far as the lease goes. If I keep driving at the present rate, I'll be at 62000 miles on a 48,000 lease. Also, my warranty is up at 50k too if I'm not mistaken.

    Should I try to get out now? Consider an extended warranty and try keeping it next year? Its about $10k upside down at this point. Thanks.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi phollie. I'm sorry to hear that you are going to exceed your car's mileage allowance by so much. Unfortunately, it is probably going to be very expensive for you to terminate your lease at this point. Your best option is probably to wait until the scheduled end of your lease. At that point you will either have to turn your car in and have to pay an excess mileage penalty or purchase it from the bank that you are leasing it through. Purchasing a Saab at the end of a lease is probably not a good idea unless the bank that you are leasing it through is willing to negotiate your car's purchase option price. If they won't there is a very good chance that it would cost more to purchase your car than it is worth on the open market. The bottom line is that there is a good chance that your least expensive option will be to just pay your car's excess mileage penalty at the scheduled end of your lease.

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  • saablcpsaablcp Member Posts: 195
    The reality of your situation is less dire than it seems,especially when comparing the cost of terminating now vs.your potential over mileage costs.No vehicles under lease are anywhere near an equal balance of market value vs payoff with 18 months left on the lease.If I presume a monthly payment of $500 per month it would cost you approximately $7-$9,000.00 to end the lease now.If your projection of 14,000 miles overage is correct @$.20/per mile,you are looking at $2,800 in over mileage charges.....not chump change but definitely a lesser cost to you vs. terminating now.Once you get to within 4 or 5 months of the end of your lease you should revisit the math again. At that point the additional remaining payments vs. the mileage charges you are incurring may make terminating then more of an equal cost option.
  • davehanedavehane Member Posts: 2
    Hi,

    I'd like to lease a 2007 9-5 Aero Sedan. In playing around with various lease calculators, I don't seem to be able to get a least payment much below $650/mo (36 mo, 12k mi). I am wondering what terms I can expect with today's environment. One thing that I think I'm seeing in my area (Minneapolis) is $3000 cash back on such a purchase/lease. Thanks.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi davehane. Through July 9th, Saab is providing $3,000 customer cash on the 2007 9-5. Unfortunately, this cash is not compatible with its special lease program. I would be happy to give you an idea of how much the specific 9-5 that you are interested in would cost to lease right now. In order for me to do so I need you to provide me with its MSRP and approximate selling price. Let me know what these numbers are and I'll run a payment for you.

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  • davehanedavehane Member Posts: 2
    MSRP: $40,030
    Sale: $37,621

    3 year lease, 12K/year.

    Thanks!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Thanks for the additional information, davehane. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2007 Saab Aero Sedan that has an MSRP of $40,030 and a selling price of $37,621 through Saab's captive finance company right now for 36 months with 12,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $496.

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  • mountstreetmountstreet Member Posts: 1
    Hello:
    Is this a lease deal worth considering?

    2007 9-5 with Visibility Package
    Demo with 3500 miles
    $375 plus tax for 27 months
    $600 bank fee

    Thanks for your help.
    Mountsreet
  • larry74larry74 Member Posts: 1
    I am planning to return my 2005 Saab 95 series 2.3 T lease ( two months early).

    I desire to lease a similar 2007 model. List price is $37,000. with a $34,000. selling price. I have been quoted:

    $1,500. down

    $415. plus tax for 39 months. Isn't this too high considering Saab is offering $419. per month with $2,000. down for 27 months?
  • woodrow48woodrow48 Member Posts: 1
    Can you tell me the residual and payments I should be seeing on the 9-5 Sedan (2207). MSRP of 37,340 - price offered as 30,995. I expect 36 or 39 with 10k per year
  • saablcpsaablcp Member Posts: 195
    The advertised 9-5 lease is for a base model,5 speed manual,no options.How is the car you are being quoted on equipped?Automatic Trans.,Metallic Paint,Visibility package?If so you could be looking at as much as $1,395 to over $3,000 higher M.S.R.P..Regardless of equipment I suggest you have them take the same parameters and give you a 27 month quote.The current programs do not generally yield lower monthly payments when you extend the term.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hello mountstreet. You never mentioned the selling price or MSRP of the 9-5 that you are interested in leasing. These are important numbers for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing what this vehicle's selling price is in relation to its MSRP you don't know how much of a discount you are getting on it. The second reason is that one needs the selling price and MSRP, including the destination charge, of a vehicle to calculate its lease payment. I would be more than happy to give you my opinion of this deal if you let me know what these numbers are.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi woodrow48. Saab Financial Services' Corp.'s current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 Saab 9-5 2.3T Sedan with 10,000 miles per year are 3.35% and 59%, respectively. The lease rate would be the same for a 39 month lease, but the residual value would drop by 1%.

    Unfortunately, I doubt that you will be able to take advantage of the low selling price that you were quoted if you want to lease this car. Saab is currently providing a $4,000 cash rebate on the '07 9-5, but this incentive is not compatible with its special lease program. You should shoot for a selling price that is as close to dealer invoice as possible on a leased vehicle. You can look up the invoice price for the car that you are interested in by visiting the following section of this site: Edmunds.com - New Vehicle Pricing.

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  • tretytentretyten Member Posts: 1
    I'm looking to lease an '08 9-5, auto, upgraded paint, cold weather package.

    Can you give me an idea on what I should be looking for on money factor/% and residual value on a 24 month lease 15k miles? I'm probably looking to trade in a 99 Chrysler T&C Limited AWD.

    Thanks.
  • eurospecialisteurospecialist Member Posts: 12
    Hey Tretyten,
    GMAC doesn't use money factors, they use straight interest rates on their leases.
    As stated in the post before yours it is still at 3.35% with a .5% interest markup to waive security deposit. So 3.85% unless you pay the security deposit up front, which would be the monthly payment rounded up the next $25 increment. Usually about a wash.

    Your best bet would be to take the 27 month term for the best payment. Which the residual would be 67% on 27 and 68% on 24.

    Hope this helps..
  • shoreboundshorebound Member Posts: 6
    I'm looking at turning in my 2006 9-5 at lease end and getting a new 2008. Does anyone know what the residual is for a 27 month lease and what rate GMAC is currently using? Also, Edmunds indicates a $2500 Mfg to Dealer rebate. How do I get the dealer to part with that?
  • saablcpsaablcp Member Posts: 195
    The $2,500 dealer cash can only be used against a purchase.This question is raised on an ongoing regular basis. Question to the moderators and editors of this site:When are you going to clarify this point and point out the fact that in most cases these rebates and incentives can not be combined?
  • airpowerairpower Member Posts: 28
    I am also about to lease a 2008 9-5. Let me give you some quick tips.

    The $2500 cash to dealer, and the current Saab $1000 bonus cash are NOT valid on leases.

    In April, Saab did have a $1000 lease bonus. I am waiting for that to come back. I am hoping for a July 4th sale of some kind.

    Also - The only way to lease a Saab (if you can afford it) is with GM's SmartLease Plus program. Using this lease, you prepay the entire lease up front - it's also known as a "One payment lease". The benefit is a lower lease rate. Right now the standard lease rate (27 Month) is 3.35%. Using the SmartLease Plus, the rate drops to 1.75%.

    Buying additional miles upfront is much less expensive than buying them at lease end.

    Saab has a current Pull-Ahead program in effect. They will pay up to 2 remaining payments if you turn your current Saab in early. This was 6 months back in December - so the number of payments is subject to change.

    Saab has a 174 day supply of vehicles (as of 04/30/08) so incentives have no where to go but up.

    There are several new 2007 9-5 units out there with manual transmission at discounts ranging from 12000 to 15000 dollars!

    Good luck with your transaction.
  • saablcpsaablcp Member Posts: 195
    Good accurate advice on all accounts except the '07 info.$15K. is wayyyyyyyyy high.Max purchase cash back is on the 9-3 conv't.@ $6k....strip out all dealer margin including holdback,add owner loyalty and on a non-loaner you'll top out at about $10,500.00 and leasing through GMAC is not available on an '07 anyway.
  • groundhog6groundhog6 Member Posts: 3
    My Saab dealer is quoting me 4.35% APR on a 39 month lease; does this sound right or are they marking things up?
  • airpowerairpower Member Posts: 28
    This Saab 9-5 is available for $15,000 off the sticker:

    New 2007 Saab 9-5 Aero: $42,915 MSRP

    5 Speed Manual Sedan 4 Cylinder Turbo 2 wheel drive - front
    Fusion Blue, VIN YS3EH45G673510947

    Barry's Middletown, Inc. 1-866-503-6403

    He has three more available at less 10 to 12K. Keep in mind that the discount is more like $ 16200 compared to the 2008 model as the manual transmission was made a "no cost" option.
  • airpowerairpower Member Posts: 28
    27 Month is the current sweet spot.

    Keep in mind with a 39 month lease you are probably going to go through a set of tires which will add about $500 to your lease.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey groundhog6. The lease rate that you were quoted is slightly high. SFSC's current base lease rate for the 2008 9-5 is 3.35% for consumers who pay a security deposit at lease signing.

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  • theory2theory2 Member Posts: 7
    Looking for any info on current rebates or incentives on the 2010 or 2011 Saab 9-5 Aero. Thanks as always guys.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey theory2. Saab is currently providing $2,500 dealer cash on the 2011 and $1,000 bonus cash + $2,000 dealer cash on the 2010 9-5.

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  • airpowerairpower Member Posts: 28
    You might also check ebaymotors.com for incredible pricing on a few leftover 2010 9-5 models. There is an especially aggressive dealer in Chicago unloading 9-5 units.
  • penn2penn2 Member Posts: 128
    Happy New Year Car Man!

    Am hoping the new year will bring better or at least reasonable leasing options. Am in the market to lease within next 30 - 60 days and am considering typically - equipped (which I guess means fully loaded) Aero @ 36 mos term and 12k/mi.

    What is current MF? How would that figure for lease payment ? Also - do you anticipate any incentives (not a current Saab owner) --

    Thank you!
  • airpowerairpower Member Posts: 28
    The current sweet point in a lease is the turbo4 model.

    Click here:

    http://www.saabusa.com/offers/currentOffers.jsp
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi penn2. Saab is currently providing a $1,500 cash incentive on leases of the 2011 9-5. Its January base lease rate is 1.2%. A lease rate of 1.2% is equivalent to a money factor of .00050.

    You can plug this lease rate, along with some other variables, into the formula that is outlined in the following article to calculate a lease payment: Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

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  • penn2penn2 Member Posts: 128
    Thank you Car Man! Much appreciated.....

    however, I have no frame of reference....is 1.2% a "good" or "great" lease rate for a 2011 Aero? Would you anticipate greater incentives or lower rate as we move in to February or March?

    Thank you!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    You're very welcome penn2. A lease rate of 1.2% is indeed attractive. Saab's current incentives are scheduled to run through the end of February. It's difficult to say what its March program will be like at this point.

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  • fishemcfishemc Member Posts: 2
    Anyone have any information on the March incentives, residual and money factor on 2011 9-5 Aero?

    Tech, Nav, ventilated seats, urail, etc. Not sure if any of that has an impact to residual?

    Also, is the Edmunds TMV applicable as a target for a lease as well or only cash/finance?

    I am looking at leasing in the next 30-60 days.

    Thanks as always!
  • penn2penn2 Member Posts: 128
    Here was my recent experience:leased a 2011 9-5 Aero with tech package and Harmon Kardon for @ 49,600. 10K MI/year @ $699/mo no money down. Residual was @ 56%. Lease rate @ 1.2% . I do believe I probably could have gotten a better deal if I was willing to stretch out the negotiations a bit . The options you want -- or any options for that matter - likely do not impact residual. Mileage is what plays the part there. Good luck
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi fishemc. Saab is currently providing 0.0% financing for up to 3 years, 2.9% for 4 to 5 years, and 4.9% for 6 years or $3,500 dealer cash or a special lease program on the 2011 9-5.

    As far as this car's lease program goes, Saab's current base lease rate and for a 36 month leas of a 2011 9-5 Aero is 1.2%. Saab is also providing a $1,500 cash incentive on leases of this car.

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  • gorlomigorlomi Member Posts: 12
    Dear car_man,

    What is the invoice on a base 2011 aero? Are the lease numbers good for a 56%residual value ?

    What would the numbers be if I wanted a 36/12000m a year?

    Thanksin advance,
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi gorlomi. Saab's current base lease rate and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 9-5 Aero with 12,000 miles per year are 1.2% and 47%, respectively.

    Saab is currently providing a $1,500 cash incentive on leases of the '11 9-5.

    You can find this car's dealer invoice price over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunds.com.

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  • gorlomigorlomi Member Posts: 12
    Thanks Car_Man:

    thats really sad - went and bought myself an MDX . chee.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    You're very welcome gorlomi. As a former Saab owner myself I agree that it's sad to see their demise. They're in a cough spot right now.

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