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But that number can vary based on a number of factors, including worse mileage in winter due to temps, worse mileage due to ethanol in the gas, driving habits, tire inflation, hilly terrain, worse mileage for the first few minutes after startup (MPG is always worse until the car reaches full operating temp), what each person considers to be "city" and "highway" driving, how fast you drive, and so on.
I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't be disappointed. Just that fuel economy is is complicated. FWIW my wife doesn't get 40 on the highway in her '12 Elantra either; more like about 36. But it's easily attributable to winter gas, ethanol, and her driving 75 or so MPH.
"disappointed" isn't the correct word...
I am also going to talk with another car company altogether and see what happens.
1) During initial 1000 break-in miles I was getting 27-29 mpg in 40% city & 60% highway (Was driving 60 miles/day including 5-6 miles of Manhattan's stop & go traffic everyday) --- this was in June-2011 when temperature was between 70-90
2)After break-in period I was able to get 32-35 mpg going at 70 MPH (Same 60 miles commute everyday including Manhattan) This was during July 2011 and 70-90 temperature
3)Once winter started and temperature reached below 50 (varying between 20' F to 50' F), was getting 29-31 MPG in 50%-50% mixed highway/City (This includes 42 miles/day commute with 20 miles of constant highway going at 70 MPH, and 22 miles of Stop & Go from 30-45 MPH
4)Now, as again summer started this time little early and temperature started reaching above 55'F, started getting 32-33 MPG in same manner of driving as just above.
During Winter, while filling up Tank, it shows 320-325 Miles in the meter, while currently (during 55'-70') it shows 340-345 Miles, and once it will go above 75 'F (It will show around 355 Miles) and getting maximum Mileage of upto 35MPG in 50%-50% mixed driving
Have tried ECO mode too, but couldnt found any difference.
Once, I tried a full trip of 270 miles (135 miles each way which includes driving constantly at 75 to 80 MPH for 115 Miles & stop & go for other 20 miles) during winter (Temperature was 25' F) --- and got 31 MPG for 270 miles trip (Mileage was noted manually after filling up the tank before staring of the trip & after again after filling at 270 miles)
2nd time, same mentioned trip recently , but between 65-70 'F temperature, and got 34 MPG which is pretty good while driving at 75-80 MPH.
Haven't tried purely in the City, but shouldn't be able to get more than 26-28 MPG if driving 80% City and 20% highway.
Dont know what is happening with some folks here saying getting around 20-25 MPG!!!
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/05/honda-hybrid-owners- -gas-mileage-claim-win-overturned/1#.T6x5XVLhfuI
Say a manufacturer found out your tranny would blow during warranty and they would end up replacing trannies left and right. So they do a recall and change the gears in the tranny to make it last longer so they don't suffer a huge monetary loss. But by doing this it cut your MPG from 30 to 20. Would you be a happy camper? Would you want to sue because your nice car that was getting 30mpg now only gets 20mpg because your carmaker messed with your tranny to save themselves money?
I think this superior court judgement has a good chance of being overruled.
The owners would need to prove that Honda modified their vehicles and did so knowing the result(s) would include inferior mileage. That is a bit tougher, especially when data is available for 2006 Civic Hybrids that meet EPA and owner's requirements (averaging over 40mpg). The court would have to assume at least some of the vehicle data was collected from modified vehicles unless verifiable, empirical data to the contrary was presented.
There again, things in the courtroom generally favor whomever can afford the best counsel. There's no doubt about the favorite in that case!
I'm in agreement with you that other than this poor mileage issue, the car is a good value for the money. That said, the fuel savings was the BIG seller for me as I have a long highway commute. You'd think highway miles, with few inner city miles, would be the perfect scenario for the promises of a fuel efficient car like this. What a disappointment. I'm lucky to hit 31mpg on the highway. I too have never experienced so much discrepancy between the stated city/highway sticker rating and the reality on the road.
This I know for certain - this is my first and last Hyundai car. They've lost my trust.
You say you use the A/C. But...
- Are you using ethanol?
- How much stop-and-go traffic are you doing?
- How long are your average trips one way?
- How fast are you driving on interstate?
- Are you carrying passengers?
- How many miles does your Elantra have?
- What are some specific results for actual tanks of gas you recently pumped? How many miles did you drive and how many gals of fuel used? What is your average MPH for a tank?
- Are you the only person driving it?
I do hope you've taken care of all the little things like proper tire inflation, etc.
With a name like "camaroman", how come I don't have any difficulty seeing you driving your Elantra really hard and fast? Not the sort of name that screams economy-minded driving.
The one sentence that caught my eye and reflects back on drivers and car contents is this "The industry’s general rule of thumb is that 100 pounds equals a mile a gallon."
I think a lot of people forget or deny how much passengers and the contents they haul in their cars can adversely affect their mileage! :surprise:
But those old cars weighed little more than a bag of bagels. Thin sheet metal, probably disastrous crash results, etc. And a distinct lack of features compares to today's cars. Features that add weight like airbags, power windows, sunroofs, and so on.
It's literally food for thought for the overweight among us that if we lost, say, 50 pounds we could get an extra 1/2 mpg benefit. So when people diss a car's economy, among the ethanol & driving factors we can counter with "your Taco Bell habit".
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/09/hyundai-elantras-ga- s-mileage-disappoints-this-tech-writer/1#.T9Uhkzfd6So
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/12/hyundai-fires-back-- defending-elantras-gas-mileage/1#.T9Uhqjfd6So
And also, USA Today's comparo of 5 sedans that are rated over 35 mpg and cost under $20k. The Elantra was 2nd overall in fuel economy, with 34.5 mpg (more than the EPA combined figure) and was first overall in the comparo:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/06/best-5-seat-sedan-u- nder-20000-and-over-35-mpg/1#.T9UgqTfd6Sp
There's some other things you can do, also, e.g. take a run of at least 10 miles (longer is better) on a level highway at a steady 65 mph, resetting the FE meter when you hit 65 mph. Best to do the run in both directions to negate wind and hills effects. Be sure the tire pressure is at spec. Based on published tests, you should be able to get 40 mpg or very close to it under those conditions. If you get considerably below 40 mpg on that test, take those results to Hyundai.
My previous car was a 2007 Nissan Sentra 2.0S. It was rated at 25 to 33 mpg. With the same driving patterns as with 2011 Hyundai Elantra GLS, at 11,000 miles, I was averaging 25 mpg. I guess that means that Nissan's mpg ratings are accurate and Hyundai's are inflated. I wish I would have known that before I bought the car.
It's entirely possibly that Hyundai's and Nissan's engineers have different programming standards and different ways of handling their particular engine's characteristics.
I'm not making excuses for Hyundai, nor do I think Nissan's tech is necessarily better. Just trying to explain the problem with a short commute and that different manufacturers will have different approaches to engine management.
When you have some extra time, try running the car until the temp is full normal, and then some for a few minutes to make sure. Then reset the trip computer and see what mileage you attain.
Hyundai gears its trannys to give high mpg's on the highway, but at the sacrifice of really bad mpg's in acceleration and in stop and go city driving. And those really bad city mpg's rapidly decrease a much larger number of highway mile mpgs. THE REDUCTION IN COMBINED MILEAGE HAPPENS FAST!
It's a game.
That said, it would be almost impossible for the average consumer to exactly match all the driving conditions that the test is made up of. If you actually read the EPA sticker it will give a range for city and a range for hwy with a number somewhere in between each boldly printed. I don't know what the exact numbers are on the Elantra but it is probably something like 22-32 for city and 34-42 for hwy. What that means is that if you drive only a few miles each way to work through a lot of urban stop and go traffic, your mpg will probably be at the very lowest end of the city range which would be around 22 or 23. That kind of driving is about the worse you can get.
It's been stated often that the Elantra doesn't have a lot of torque or grunt off the line. If someone was used to a certain amount of speed when taking off with their old car they may just push the gas pedal a little harder in the Elantra to get that same feeling of grunt or speed off the line. That will affect MPG greatly and possibly explain why another car may have performed as well as the Elantra even though it's mpg ratings were lower as estimated by the EPA.
Funny you should say that...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/epa-finds-hyundai-kia-overstated-gas-mileage-08032- 1368--finance.html
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http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-mo-autos-kia-hyundai-epa-reimburseme- nt-20121102,0,6589051.story
where do we go for help their reimbursement for me is only $43 dollars what a joke that is about what I lose every month I drive the car and since I bought the 10 year warranty I didn't plan to sell anytime soon.
Wheels - The Nuts and Bolts of Whatever Moves You
November 7, 2012, 10:56 am
Hyundai’s Fuel Economy Admission Leaves Some Car Owners Cold
By CHERYL JENSEN
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/07/hyundais-fuel-economy-admission-leave- s-some-car-owners-cold