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i have a 08 santa fe ltd AWD, it only has 3,500 miles on it, according to the mpg computer when driving in the city with the ESC it averages around 12 mpg. But when i turn it off the ESC it average around 15.1 mpg. has anyone experience this issued? also at what mileage after break-in does the mpg goes to 17, i mean thats what the EPA estimates. But the strangest thing that surprises me that out of most mid size suvs with a v6 engine the santa fe is considered one of the best in regards of fuel economy with the 3.3L , it makes me wonder how those other suvs with the 3.5L engines perform when it comes to real world fuel economy.
I suggest keeping track with the old fashioned pen and paper method for the first ten or so tanks too. That'll tell you if the mpg readout is accurate (most are these days), and you'll probably see a few awful tanks and a few pretty decent ones as things break in.
I'll try to look around for instructions on how to get accurate MPG averages.
First tank was 16.7, then 19 (yippie), then 14, then two tanks at 11, and the next two at 12. Then a pop to 20 and then back down to the mid teens.
My lifetime mpg went from that first 16.7 to mostly 14 and 15 for the first 2900 miles. Then it hovered in the 16s and 17s until my average hit 18 at 6200 miles.
I hit my highest average at 117,020 miles (21.50) and it's been falling off a bit since then. I was hitting ~21 consistently at 64,000 miles.
What I do is fill the tank up to the first click (any more risks damaging the vapor recovery system anyway). It's best to use the same station and the same pump, but I rarely do. The errors will average themselves out over time.
Then I take the miles traveled since my last tank and divide by the number of gallons pumped in. I like to write that down and put the numbers in a spreadsheet every few months. If you track your miles, if you do have a few bad tanks in a row, that can indicate something wrong with your engine.
Mostly it's just a bad habit I fell in to though.
Oh yeah, check your tire pressure ... just in case. We Test the Tips has some other suggestions.
have heard there is a 6 speed transmision series to be launched soon, wonder if this will get better fuel consumption
Considering its size, it isn't bad, but the 2.7L really needs to be wound up for any substantial power; it's not that torquey. It drives like a 4-cylinder but sounds (and drinks gas) like a V6.
(SE, 3.3 w/automatic)
I've searched the Internet about the problem and yours is the first post I've seen addressing it.
I have 425 miles on mine and get 12.3 or so.
I'll look for the ESC as someone else suggested and see if that has an effect..
I'm going to run thru this tank and then try turning off the ESC and see what the results are after a few tanks with that turned off.
My 2004 Buick gave me about 25 MPG, but all in all I'm quite happy with the Santa Fe. Although the ride is quite a bit firmer than the Buick and took a little getting used to.
I'm not very pleased with the MPG on my 2009 SE 2WD- W/ 3.5K miles, in service about 4 months.
I do drive conservatively 90 % of the time and find it impossable to achieve the stated MPG numbers!!
With out getting too exact, My "city" is less than 16 and hwy. at best 22.
I was wondering if there is a mico chip that can be replace that would change Xmission shift patterns or engine timing issues?
Also is there a consensus that this product - engine/ trans. is unsificated for its time .
My expecitations because of the driving style I use would at least hit the top end of the stipulated ??
Comments ??
len
Just in case you want to know how they test, here is a link to the EPA web site that details their test procedures. (And no manufacturer would dare send them a "rigged" vehicle for testing. The fines would be enormous and the publicity even worse!)
http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml
I have a 2008 SF Ltd AWD here in south central PA and I can tell you that during the winter my mileage is terrible (15-16mpg) but during the summer I usually get 19-19.5 mpg in all-around driving here in our hilly and pot-holed trails that are sometimes called roads. When I do take it out for a longer drive and keep my speed to 70 or less I will usually get 21-23 mpg. I can live with those numbers.
I've never heard of anyone winning one of these fights. The window stickers are pretty clearly marked - take a look at the "expected range" that is below the Highway MPG. What is the low value? The EPA is very careful, and I seriously doubt that Hyundai changed their programming before running the test and then changed it back after the test. Such an action would open them to big fines from the EPA.
The EPA tests are not very good indicators of MPG, in my experience. The heavier the vehicle, the worse it will be in actual use. As it says just below that on the window sticker, "your mileage may vary".
Good luck!
I started a case with Hyundai and they said they have no control over how a dealership sells cars. Totally ridiculous. They directed me back to the dealership to battle it out. The general manager refused to give me even close to a fair deal on taking the vehicle back. This is not what I paid for. Car had 2700 miles and still getting same poor mpg, 15.3 city 17.1 overall 21.2 hwy. I traded it in for a 2010 Tucson at another dealership which is behaving as expected.
I just finished the deal and plan on taking additional action. I refuse to work with the 1st dealership again. I plan on filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau about their exaggerated claims on the Santa Fe's mileage and trying to cheat me on a trade-in. Once that is done I will resume my case with Hyundai and demand an inquiry be made on the Santa Fe's fuel economy. I never saw the middle or upper end of the estimated mpg. Always the bare minimum!!!
I'm getting 17 mpg when it should be WELL over twenty the way I drive.
On mine, the RPM's are too high at shift.
Its an automatic.
Its new. 4k miles.
Took it in last week. They tested it, then showed me the Dyno printout.
The service manager said all the shift RPM values were in line with factory specs. I said, "Yes, they are." Then I told him the Dyno misread EVERY shift. Showing them at between 1 and 2K RPM's, but my never shifts sooner than 3K RPM's. Which makes for a disgusting gas HOG!
So their machine lied, and I now have the printout to prove factory spec. All an investigator needs to do is look at the printout, then drive my car to see what liars these guys are, and that their Dyno equipment is rigged to give false values.
My car will not shift below 3K RPM's no matter what I do, or how I drive. I can drive slow, fast, medium. I can gun it a bit, then take my foot off the gas in an attempt to force a shift. Nada. It just stays in the low gear and winds down, consuming unreal amounts of fuel compared to label claims.
It seems I'm reading more and more of these bad MPG posts with Hyundai.
There is something funky up, and I'm ready to fight. Particularly now that even their Dyno has proved disgustingly innacurate, and I have the proof right here on my desk.
I welcome any and all emails. I am going to the states attorney with this. I am in California, and they tend to be tough on these sorts of things here.
The more people I can show experiancing this, the better.
John
One thing I found is driving in the manual mode. Transmission doesn't down shift at the slightest hill which keeps the RPM down.
Another thing to contemplate is the wheel size. I have 18" wheels on my Limited. I found that my speedo is dead on accurate. I've never owned a car where the speedo was dead on. Usually there's a 4-5 MPH difference in the reading verses what the car is doing. I doubt that Hyundai changes the final drive gear to compensate for the wheel size, so a Fe with the 17" wheels might be giving you a slightly false reading. We all need to get out the pencil and paper to figure out the mileage. Can't trust those computers.
As an aside, what's the big deal about the gas tank size? My bladder is only good for about 200 miles. Then I empty one tank and fill the other.
If anyone hears differently, I am still interested to know if the stated volume is correct. Keep us all posted. Maybe someone here will actually run their tank empty and give a true fill-up. Not me, though.
11.7 L/100km in mixed city driving. probably about 40% highway.
That converts to about 20.1 mpg US.
If I can get that up to 22-23 after the break in period I'll be real happy
with my vehicle decision.
Just before arriving back home, I stopped for gas. Took 10.25 gallons. I drove 276 miles, and had 136 miles left in range. Computer said I got 26.3 MPG. My calulations show 26.9 MPG. I'm not complaining. So far I'm very happy with our choice of vehicle.
BTW, total mileage on the vehicle is 3556.
Please help!
Thanks,