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Already Jaguar/Land Rover are establishing component sourcing offices in India. Soon they may be entirely "Made in India".....yessss!
Love the vehicle as well. The power is tremendous and transmision really smooth. Originally wanted SC version but I now think it would have been a waste of money given the power of the 2010 HSE. Question for you.. At speeds over 50 I,m hearing alot of outside wind noise in the cabin coming from Driver side. Just curious if you are experiencing same?
LOVE this car, it's just incredible and you are totally right getting the Super Charged would have probably been a waste given the power of the 2010. We originally considered a smokin' deal on a new 2009 but what a dog that car is, after driving the 2010 there was no comparison. As for speeds over 50 we do not hear any wind noise at all, both my husband and I both have commented that it is so quiet. Maybe have the dealer look at it? What color did you get? I find myself coming up with errands to do because I LOVE driving this car...I call it my four seasons (as in the hotel) , it's so luxurious and just gorgeous! Enjoy!! :-)
I traded my 2008 Mercedes ML550 in for the 2010 Range Rover. The RR blows the Mercedes away in every category except Cabin Wind Noise at this point which hopefully I will have corrected by the dealer next week. Thanks for the feedback that yours is quiet. I will use that information if Dealer tells me that it is normal.
Have you driven in Sport mode yet? It drives like a race car in this mode.
Have a good weekend and enjoy.
We paid $67,500 for ours - we got the 2010 Lux with every option available including contrast stitch and the black laquer wood. Our MSRP and sticker price was a little over $69,000. Including tax, tags, title etc. we paid around $74,000 (purchase not lease). We bought ours in So. Cal as well.
1. Extreme cabin wind noise over 50mph. Sounds like blowing wind. Noise appears to be coming from either front windshield or doors. Door window seals have already been replaced with no improvement.
2. Vibration in Driver side door. Vibration appears to coming from window switch area or door speakers. Vibration occurs while driving but can also be heard while door is being shut.
3. Steering wheel and seat setting and does not return to stored memory position after starting vehicle. Must manually push memory recall button to return steering wheel and seat to memory position. Seat and Wheel move but frequently stop just short of memory position. Intermittent issue.
4. Loose Driver side seat track. Seat moves a little during acceleration and stopping. Intermittent issue.
5. Wheel has stiffened-up on 2 separate occasions. Had to “muscle” wheel to turn at low speeds. Issue went away after shutting vehicle down and restarting.
I would serious reconsider the Sport. I think the first line of production of the 2010 is riddled with problems. I purchased but I'm currently in the process of getting out of this vehicle with Corporate.
I recently leased a 2010 RRS and have noticed that the hood buffets up and down considerably at highways speeds. It is so bad that I have even had other drivers point to the hood as if to indicate that it is not closed properly. I have checked and the hood is in fact closed all the way but it still buffets up and down. Before I contact the dealer I am curious to know if anyone else is experiencing this problem. Thanks.
That's actually 1 problem I haven't had. My list of problems seems to be growing on a weekly basis. Here is partial list:
1. Extreme cabin wind noise over 50mph. Sounds like blowing wind. Noise appears to be coming from either front windshield or doors. Door window seals have already been replaced with no improvement.
2. Vibration in Driver side door. Vibration appears to coming door speakers. Vibration occurs while driving but can also be heard while door is being shut.
3. Steering wheel and seat setting and does not return to stored memory position after starting vehicle. Must manually push memory recall button to return steering wheel and seat to memory position. Seat and Wheel move but frequently stop just short of memory position. Intermittent issue. Memory Seat Button recently stopped working all together. Can no longer program seat.
4. Loose Driver side seat track. Seat moves a little during acceleration and stopping. Intermittent issue.
5. Wheel has stiffened-up on 2 separate occasions. Had to “muscle” wheel to turn at low speeds. Issue went away after shutting vehicle down and restarting.
6. Roof Molding over front passenger side coming off where roof meets front windshield.
7. Recently had trouble engaging reverse. I placed vehicle in reverse and pressed gas and vehicle would not move. Continued to press gas pedal and vehicle “broke loose” with loud snapping noise.
8. Back passenger wind (behind front passenger) goes half up and returns all the way down with 1 touch close. Occurs intermittently.
My other question is...while all these can be a nuissance....I don't believe you've mentioned what your dealer (who?) has done successfully to assist you. Understanding that for this kind of money, you wouldn't want to have problems in the first place...I wouldn't either...but has the dealer been able to experience the wind noise on a test drive and come up with a solution? Have they been able to reprogram the car so the seats and steering wheel work properly? How about that loose seat...were they able to fix it or replace the track? The molding issue you mentioned sounds like the root cause of your wind noise...have they repaired this?
I know it's frustrating as I had similar stupid issues when I purchased the first model of the Infiniti G30 coupe the same week it came out several years ago...but my dealer successfully fixed all my issues.
I'd like to know how your dealer has addressed them and if so, have they been eliminated or come back and you're visiting the dealer again. I'm sure many of us can deal with some issues...but have they been corrected? Thanks
I've now had vehicle in service 2 separate times for Cabin Wind noise - zero improvement. Been out with Service Manager on test ride and he is in agreement that there is excesssive wind noise. It's really bad. Going back this week for 3rd time to address wind nouse again along with 7 other repair items, including poor paint bodywork on tailgate.. I don't mind a few repair issues on a new vehicle even at this price point but this is getting out of control. I know most dealerships will try their best to address and fix all issues but who has the time and patience to deal with all this.
There are substantial mechanical and bodywork defects that should not be expected nor accepted from a new vehicle. When you spend $65,000 you rightfully anticipate receiving a product that is free of defects. Signficant and numerous repairs recorded on Service Records could potentially lower resale value. Would you buy a 1 Year old used vehicle with a ton of issues on Service Records? I wouldn't.
I have to think that in their haste to get the new model out, some defects would be incurred as you mentioned....I'm certain that was one of the very first vehicles....here in Southern California...I don't recall us even seeing them until November. It's too bad that they can aknowledge your issues but don't have a fix. Not that your looking for advice...but if I were you, I'd go to another dealership or tell your existing dealership to get their factory rep out to go over your car and get some attention that way.
I'm happy to say that mine has been ordered direct from the factory and won't be here for a few months. I'll let you know my experience and look forward to the end of your saga. Good luck and Thanks!
The windshield heating coils appear to be darker and it appears like you are looking at corduroy. This causes blurred/distorted vision at night from all light sources, i.e. oncoming head lights, break lights, street lights etc.
Some other general/minor items that we have also encountered:
1. The indicator lights seem to come on occasionally and the go off.
2. Breaks occasionally have a high pitched screech but only when backing up.
3. Door locks don't always work when using the car door handle.
4. During the day, the air vents reflect in the side mirrors blocking your vision.
5. During the day, glare on the navigation device makes it difficult to see the map/radio stations.
Any suggestions to help fix the blurred vision would be great.
Your Lexus, while nice is primarily...as most Toyota products are referred to as "an appliance." They run well, are very luxurious, meet their customer demands and their dealerships are usually pristine with high overheard and nice touches for the buying public. Nothing wrong with a Lexus...but that's how they are.
BMW nor LR claim to be along those lines. A BMW is a more sport oriented vehicle. You'll notice when you drive it. It does not float or glide or whish along like a Lexus and expecting it to do so would be a misrepresentation. My X5 is sporty, harsh, fast and my dealers takes care of everything I need.
Buying a LR is another different flavor. It will not whisk you along, it will not be silent or smooth and the dealerships are there to support you but not built like taj mahal's you get from Lexus. I have wanted a LR for years. I find them fun to drive, I love the seating position, the Supercharged is very fast and provides me the sport and comfort I want. The luxury touches I want all are there. The LR4 is a great vehicle...new engine and new interior this year with some exterior freshening.
I guess the bottom line is, all these vehicles are great yet each one has it own personality, quirks both positive and negative. A Land Rover will never be your Lexus and your Lexus will never have the sporting ability or the off road prowess or driving position of the Land Rover.
I think if/once you drive all three, you will easily note the difference in the experience. I'm not from your area so I can't comment on your dealers. Good luck
The models you are looking into are built at their plant in Birmingham, England UK.
Trying to find what my drive off price for this vehicle should be and what all are getting on monthly payments for 36-39 month 12k lease terms. Any info is greatly appreciated
Tks
WC
I purchased a 2010 Black on Black RRS with Lux Package and Extended Leather and HD Radio. MSRP was 65495. I purchased it for 61786 (no tax and license). There is also a $3000 rebate from Land Rover that was applied after taxes if you had a lease ending from Merc/BMW/Audi. I did have to finance a bit (12k) for 36 months at 1.9% to get this price (i'll just pay it off after the mandatory 6 months). But financing is pretty good if you want to do that anyways.
They also provide FREE scheduled maintenance in writing for 4years/50k. (Oilchange, and anything scheduled, etc..., but not brakes and wipers like BMW)
Final Bill was 68675.25 - $3000 rebate = 65675.25. (CA tax is 9.75% =( )
Basically we got almost $6300 off plus the maintenance which im sure is worth at least $1500 or so.
From what I have been reading its a great deal. I was offered the price over the phone. 2 days later I called Greg Ryan and made an appointment. Went there and made the purchase. He did not try to upsale me any additional warranties or anything. He honored the price he gave me on the phone and we were done with paperwork in about 30-45 minutes. Very smooth and very honest. I even made him drive the car on their little offroad display to show me how capable the car was.
He said he couldnt lower much on the Supercharged, but the Regular sports he was very aggressive with prices. I also spoke with Pasadena who kept on telling me to go in and negotiate but didnt want to give prices via phone or email. Hornburg in downtown said he couldnt sell me a car unless I had a closer zipcode?? He said they were low on cars.
I am not trying to promote any dealer or offend others, this is my experience and I had a VERY positive one with Greg over at LRJ Cerritos. I always support those that are honest and don't 'F' around with customers.
Best of luck all!
2010 RRS Sport
Lux Package
HD Radio
Satellite Radio
MSRP $65,045. I was able to deal down to $60,045 then (it got even better) I got maintenance thrown in and also the dealer kicked in an upgrade to:
20" Style 3 (15 spoke) wheels which was another $2500 value. Therefore total MSRP $67,545 and out the door at $60,045. $7500 off before maintenance!!!! Now of course as pangaroo mentioned this was with the $3000 incentive included but felt chuffed we got the dealer to take of $4500 on top.
If anyone is in CO and wants specifics let me know, happy to share
Looks like we're finally all able to get some good deals on these great vehicles
WC