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Land Rover Range Rover/Sport Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    You should just point it towards one of the screens to make it work but make sure you have the little selector on the back in the right place.

    If you are pointing at the right or passenger side screen then you need to have the slider on the back of the remote pushed to the right side.
  • jinpowerjinpower Posts: 17
    Where is the phone cradle located on the RRS? I don't see one in my car. I have the bluetooth option. Is the cradle a seperate option?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    There is no cradle just the mount for a cradle to be attached. The mount and little plug is on the under side of the center cubby box lid.
  • I purchased a vehicle from the dealership above and have had nothing but horrible experiences with the finance department and their personnel at the dealership. The detailing was awful and learned two weeks before our first payment was due, their finance team failed to fill out the paperwork correctly. I'm now in the midst of working with our bank to try and correct their mistakes. I contacted LandRover of North America to file a complaint and the first statement made is we do have dealerships that are privately owned and can take your complaint on file. Has anyone had similar issues and if so, how can I make sure proper action is taken? I no longer want anything to do with this dealership and would like the loaner program upheld with another dealership. I no longer have any faith in the West Columbia dealer. Since they hold the LandRover name, I find corporate's response unacceptable.

    You can probably guess would not recommend this dealership to anyone!
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    There are a lot of Rover dealers down in that part of the country.

    I am not sure if someone owns all of those dealers or if they are owned by different companies. Find the next closest dealer that is not owned by the same person as the dealer you had the problems with.

    Call them and ask for the Centre manager. Explain your situation that you had serious problems with where you bought your Rover and would like to have it serviced with them instead. Be polite and just explain the situation. Let them know that you have no problem with the vehicle or Land Rover in general but just that particular dealer.

    A smart centre manager will make sure you are treated with respect and that you get access to loaner cars like anyone else. Keep in mind that for the most part the loaner cars are a first come first serve basis and most Land Rover Dealers do not have enough of them.
  • rover_usarover_usa Posts: 24
    I have a 2006 RR HSE and have recently asked the dealership to configure the vehicle so that the doorlocks engage when the vehicle reaches a certain speed when driving and single-entry access when the remote is used (one click unlocks the drivers door only, two clicks unlocks the other doors).

    This is the default behavior on a Disco (we also have a 2003 Disco).

    However, I cannot find anything in the manual for RR that indicates that driver key removeal or engine-off can trigger door unlock. This is another default behavior on the Disco.

    Is this something that the RR can be configured to do?

    Richard
  • tpacar79tpacar79 Posts: 23
    I qualified for X Plan and saved $3600 off msrp. perhaps this is why the TMV is not acurate in an exact price point for negitoations. However one dealer wouldnt do a trade to get my color combo , they said they would honor x plan only on dealer stock, so I flew down and bought the one I wanted from another dealer and considered the $3600 money well saved. :shades:
  • jwiljwil Posts: 2
    I recently took ownership of a 2003 RR HSE and within in 4 hours after the purchase the vehicle stop moving and made this horrible grinding noise. I had to be towed to a repair shop because it would not allow me to put it in gear. The dealer is picking up the tab but I am curios to know what this problem is and if anyone has encountered the same thing? Also, I am stumped as to how the cell phone option works. I have searched hi and low to find the cradle of any type or connect but I am clueless. And lastly, the previous owner didn't leave the drivers manual with the vehicle. Besides going back to the dealer..any ideas on where I can purchase a replacement manual? Please don't say ebay, it didn't work! :mad: :sick: :lemon:
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    Hmhh 2003 Range Rover that sudenly stopped moving.

    My crystal ball says front diff failure.

    How many miles were on it?
  • british,

    appreciate all your comments & info on this board. wish you worked out here on the west coast - i'd buy one from you.

    sorry if this is a dumb question, but if i make an offer for a RRS HSE in the 1st week of july, can i expect any movement off msrp? what's a fair offer to make, relative to msrp?

    thank you.

    jr
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    Honestly I don't know enough about the west coast market to be able to answer that. Over on my side here we only have three RRS HSEs for all of June and come July we are only expecting two more so there are no significant dicounts to be had.

    New leasing programs will come out the first week of July though and historicaly the leases get a little more agressive as the fourth quarter approaches.

    If the dealer is a fairly large opperation, just for example we only have 20 or so new cars in stock right now mostly LR3s, and has say more then 12 RRS on the ground make an offer of 2000 grand off and see if it flies.
  • thanks much.
  • jwiljwil Posts: 2
    It has 58000 miles and the dealer has agreed to fix it but they indicated that it was the transfer case. I researched this as well and I asked them to take a look at differential as well.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    I have only ever seen one transfer case failure on a Mark III range but I think that was an electronic issue not a mechanicle one. I know people say the front diff failure is very common but I have only seen it on two Range Rovers personaly and both were 2003 MY.
  • b1gjb1gj Posts: 1
    Hello all,

    I've been a reader of this forum for about 5 months now, and was a little disappointed that there really are not many posts about actual prices paid and buying experiences. especially if this car is so hot and selling like crazy, i would think there would be more people willing to share.

    So, i'm going to share my price to help those that are going to buy soon.

    I finally picked up my rr sport hse the other day for $61k otd. If your going to any dealer in southern california, i would recommend encino, or south bay. They're the only ones willing to deal. Also, when the dealer says that they will give you floor mats for free, make sure they are the oem ones, not aftermarket ones like they gave me.

    I didn't get lux package only sat radio and bluetooth.

    My msrp on the car was 58k

    Good luck. Don't pay more than i did. The dealers talk a bunch of bs.

    email me and i can connect you with my sales guy.

    J
  • drdreaddrdread Posts: 1
    Thanks for all your great comments. Now that we are essentially done with the RRS's inception year, have people noticed less issues (electrical glitches, etc) w/ the vehicles or better deals from the dealers?
  • sbrewittsbrewitt Posts: 2
    Can anyone tell me how best to decide on a 2000 RR 4.0 SE with 75k miles? I'm new to RR but always love the look of car. Any help appreciated. Car is being offered at $12,000

    here's what the Individual Sellers says:
    It had its 60K Tune-Up and Complete Bumper to Bumper Inspection. As part of this service they: - Replaced a worn head casket. - Replaced a worn O-Ring in the A/C System. - Replaced all the Belts. - Changed all Fluids and Filters. Separately, I replaced all 4 tires…currently still have plenty of tread. Overall condition is as follows: Engine - Excellent Running Condition. Trans - Excellent...No Problems. Exhust - Original and in good working order. Steering and Brakes - Good working order. Tires - Year old..still good. Full sized spare has never been used.

    Thank you.
  • racer_65racer_65 Posts: 43
    Since this is a consumer's forum, let me make some comments about prices. There is no way one should pay MSRP for a vehicle. On a car like the Range Rover Sport, dealer profit would be around $10K if you pay window sticker. If you don't care about money, that's a different story, but I figure the reason people come to this thread is because they do care about money.

    When buying a car, the measure should be how much you are willing to pay above invoice. No car would stay "hot" for a very long time. Usually 1 year; 2 years max. After that, the dealer would be more than willing to deal. That would be the time to buy the car. It's better to not buy the first or second year model anyways. History shows that new models tend to have bugs, just as the first version of a computer program tend to have bugs. As time passes, the first year models tend to have the biggest depreciation, because all subsequent years will have improvements over it. This should be a no brainer: get a later car with better quality and lower price.

    History also shows a couple of other things with respect to Land Rovers:

    1) They may look high end, they they're not built to very high quality. Check out this forbes article: http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/vehicles/2006/07/28/luxury-cars-breakdowns_cx_d- - - - l_0731reliable.html
    It shows that virtually every car this company makes is unreliable.

    2) They depreciate like a rock. It might have something to do with #1. There's no reason to pay top dollar for these vehicles. You can save lots of money by waiting a bit and buying second hand.

    Finally, keep in mind that the SUV market is soft all over the place. The RRS price is a temporary anomoly. You can get all kinds of top end SUVs these days at a deep discount. Definitely take a good look at the alternatives.
  • I will share as well. I have a 06 RRS, Lux package, PTI, Sirius. I paid the msrp of 61,090.00
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    Wow 10,000 dollars of profit I wish I worked at that Land Rover store. Not even the full sized supercharged Range Rover has 10,000 dollars of profit built into it.
  • racer_65racer_65 Posts: 43
    Well, since we are on Edmunds, let's check Edmunds. A base 2006 Supercharged Land Rover Range Rover Sport has MSRP of $69,535, and invoice of $63,277. That's over $7000 in profit already on the base vehicle (without any option). Options is where the high margin is made. Most of your customers will want some options, won't they? If I missed the mark, it's not by much.

    Since you mentioned the full size supercharged Range Rover, let's check that one too. MSRP for a base vehicle is $90,035, invoice is $81,932. Again, that's before any options is added. Pretty darn close to 10 grand.

    Again, not saying there's anything wrong with making money. Just taking the consumer's perspective here on how to save some money.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,476
    There is just over 9,000 dollars of profit in a supercharged Range Rover.

    I can go look at a real invoice anytime I like as all online invoices are typically off by 500 to 1000 dollars.

    You said and I quote, "ince this is a consumer's forum, let me make some comments about prices. There is no way one should pay MSRP for a vehicle. On a car like the Range Rover Sport, dealer profit would be around $10K if you pay window sticker. If you don't care about money, that's a different story, but I figure the reason people come to this thread is because they do care about money."

    Over 7000 dollars of profit is not 10,000 dollars. Just over 9,000 dollars in profit is not 10,000 dollars. A HSE Range Rover Sport with typical options has about 5,000 dollars in it. A HSE Range Rover Sport with every single option including the rarely ordered Dynamic Response Package might have 6,000 or 6,500 dollars of profit in it but no more.

    There are no hidden rebeats or secret kickbacks the prices are what they are.

    The market for the RRS sport has changed over the past few months but you are not going to be buying one for a 1,000 dollars over invoice anytime soon unless that car has a story behind it. Just trying to make people understand we don't have 2007 MY cars coming in september is a struggle.

    Typical conversation from someone who walks up.

    Customer: So I see you got a lot of 2006 Land Rovers on the lot. I guess you are going to be giving them away now to make room for your 2007s.

    ME: Well actually we won't get our first 2007 MY car till mid november and even then it will only be a couple of vehicles. We won't get our first 2007 Supercharged Range Rovers or Sports till december or possible January.

    I have had to show people my supply line report with the estimated dates of arrivals on all of our cars to make them belive that.
  • racer_65racer_65 Posts: 43
    Since you are in the business, I'll take your numbers, but admittedly with a grain of salt, since the Edmunds numbers are obviously higher.

    Markets for vehicles can change quickly. Plenty of SUVs can be bought for $1000 above invoice these days, including some that were selling for MSRP when first introduced. In your case, you are supply constrained for now, so it's a matter of how long people are willing to wait.
  • Hey British Rover.

    Read an interesting article this week in the Journal that cited the difficulties rising interest rates (and gas prices) are having on the new and used car market, especially SUV's. Those issues are increasing the number of leases relative to purchases as consumers are reluctant to finance long term at higher rates especially on SUV's which depreciated considerably and have higher fuel costs.

    The article further discusses the negative cycle of flooding the market with subsidized SUV leases as they end up as used cars in 2-3 years with few buyers due to high fuel costs. A NY Ford dealer mentions that the auction prices for these car is depressed and he's gone as far as not buying used SUV's anymore due to the stagnant market.

    Is your dealership seeing similar market reaction to used SUV's?

    Regardless of new or used, is their a "slowing" of your sales due to high fuel costs or rising interest rates?

    Your last post mentioned a change in the market conditions for the RSS - what were you referring to?

    see ya
  • sam818sam818 Posts: 127
    We won't get our first 2007 Supercharged Range Rovers or Sports till december or possible January.

    I notice that the 2007 RR SC is starting production on August 15th.
    What you are saying is that the supply pipeline will not deliver those first cars to you until December...a 4 month transit time???
  • yrbenderyrbender Posts: 25
    I have been in the market for a range rover for many year. I was going to the dealer every 6 mo to check price and quality. I purchase an 04 lx 470 over the rr it was a better vehicle in my opinion at the time and the dealer of rr would only come about 250 off sticker which I would never pay. I was impressed with the new 06 rr sticker around 83,500 lux interior sat. radio all options except not sc paid 74,000. Be patient with your purchase hit the dealer at the right time for the best deal. This dealer had this car for almost a year it was not a demo and he just got a big shipment in.
  • Hi All,
    Plan on getting the vehicle from Encino, CA, but have a few questions. Can anyone provide me with some lease details. Looking to do a 39 mo lease if offered. Options I'm looking for are LX1, PTI and SAT. Is there no navigation option? The TMV is $58,205. How much would a lease cost? I know down payment is a factor but lets say $5000.00 at the iniial. Credit score is 730. I also quilfy for the X Plan, would that work for this model? Thanks for your response....
  • craigdcraigd Posts: 2
    Ok- I'm actually gonna post the info that this forum is supposed to be about. Pd- $58,000 for my Sport last Friday.
    That price included the Luxury package including cold climate package items, sat radio and phone interface (which I'll never use) towing and electrical and fitted floor mats. Received 19,000 for my nearly 4 year old (03) excellent cond. Disco SE with only 30,000 miles and not happy about that, but not having to sell it myself and deal with tire kickers for two weeks was worth something. (first dealer offered 17,000 and I walked) Net deal was then my car and 39000 plus state sales tax.
    I loved my discovery, but the sport rocks!
  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    "Just over 9K is not 10K"
    "I can go look at a real invoice anytime I like as all online invoices are typically off by 500 to 1000 dollars."
    add the 2 together and you are left with
    10K = 10K
    Just an observation
  • whatsnuwhatsnu Posts: 5
    I'm considering a RRS, what was the MSRP on the car you paid $58,000 on ? $61,000? what dealer would you recommend?
    thanks!
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