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Saturn Outlook, GMC Acadia and Buick Enclave
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I'll guess they will fit because according to the specs the Outlook/Acadia is 2" narrower than a Tahoe and 1" wider than the Honda Pilot. We have extra room in the Tahoe and almost bought a Pilot. The seats fit in the Pilot, but it was closer. The Trailblazer was out for us because 3 across didn't work well and forced using the rear seat.
Of course this all depends on your child seats and/or booster seats. Narrowist booster I've seen is about 16 inches. Widest child seats are 20ish. Then you need a little room between them to get them buckled and unbuckled.
The Outlook/Acadia is in the picture for replacing our 03 Tahoe. Only concern is missing middle headrest in second row.
I've seen 3 Acadias and 1 Outlook one the road this week. Sharp looking SUV.
B.
In the Outlook, two car seats will fit on the 60% side, and still allow the 40% side to slide forward, though it's tight.
In the CX-9, we tried two car seats, as well as a car seat and a booster, on the 60% side, and could not tilt/slide the 40% side. However, I have read in other places, that people are still able to slide the seat(s) forward with car seats in place, and still be able to get to the 3rd row, even though the seat is not tilted. I assume kids would be able to squeeze through. If you're using a booster seat, access to 3rd row should still be pretty easy since the booster is not strapped in.
Hope that helps.
Mark
What's this about a special acoustic glass. I've never heard that before. I learn something every day.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
This is one reason why Buicks are now quieter than Lexus's.
Are they adding a 3rd shift to that plant? ha ha.
Of course it's up to you whether or not you feel it's safe to watch a movie while driving...I personally would not.
Do not get it. Does anybody?
So I took this opportunity to make a pointed sarcastic and unfunny comment (hence the 'ha ha') to show that I never believed for one second that GM was purposely slowing down production by not adding a 3rd shift just to keep prices higher. Building another plant kinda shows that it really wants to meet demands.
Have I cleared things up?
Hope they do not flood the market and IMO they will not.
The days of huge Suburbans and Tahoes and Expeditions amd Trailblazers all over the road will subside (but NOT go away) and LARGE CUV's will take some of that business. And that is a HUGE market. And the Lamdas are the best in the market today for large CUV's. I think the biggest issue is that they look small on the outside!
But when?
General Motors officially let the car out of the bag this afternoon on the future of Saturn's soon-to-close factory in Spring Hill, Tenn.
The plant will produce a new Chevrolet crossover in 2009, GM North America President Troy Clarke told them during a plant visit.
The question has been a source of anxiety for some the 4,200 hourly workers at Spring Hill. Although sources have indicated that a Lambda-platform Chevy was definitely planned for Spring Hill, many workers had their doubts.
"We're just worried that GM hasn't told us what's coming," assembly worker Craig Fincher said earlier this week as he prepared for an extended layoff. "It would be nice to have that little reassurance that something's coming for us. Why haven't they said?"
Today, Clarke said.
"Do you know a plant that wants to build a Chevy crossover?" Clarke asked the cheering crowd. "Well, guess what? You're going to."
Clarke told workers the Chevy would start in 2009. He did not clarify whether he meant calendar year 2009 or model year 2009.
The difference is important, since a calendar-year 2009 start would mean a much longer lay-off for the thousands of Spring Hill employees and some 10,000 dependent supplier jobs. The plant has been planning on a 14-16 month suspension until now, which would indicate a late summer 2008 reopening.
In Detroit, GM would only confirm in a brief prepared statement that it had shared business information with employees "that they will have a future product upon their return."
"We are not prepared to discuss the specific product at this time," the statement read, "as it is still more than two years away."
Like I said, they are not building a plant they are converting Spring Hill. It's been announced. Either 2009 modely year or calender year. I am not sure. But you are correct it is 2 years away. It is posible a 3rd shift could be added to Lansing. Sorry thought I posted the link.
General Motors officially let the car out of the bag this afternoon on the future of Saturn's soon-to-close factory in Spring Hill, Tenn.
The plant will produce a new Chevrolet crossover in 2009, GM North America President Troy Clarke told them during a plant visit.
Acadia and its sister CUV are nice. I would opt for one of them to typical SUVs. But their price should not be compared to the Tahoes. They should be compared to Siennas.
This is a matter of marketing. The new CUV are essentially upgraded minivans, but with four doors in place of sliding doors. I think that people will soon come to realize that reality, after the fad of newness subsides.
Hyundai priced Veracruz almost identical to its minivan with similar equipments.
GM is so optimistic as to its pricing of its new triplet CUVs. I envisage that their selling price will soon go down till it becomes almost similar to minivans.
Soon Toyota will probably sell a Sienna-based CUVs. In fact, if the sliding door is replaced with the regular doors, it would be a direct competitor of Acadia. And the price is $1000s lower.
If you still see the Saturn Outlook advertisement right next to my message, imagine any minivan with four regular doors. Wouldn't they look competing vehicles to each other?
Most everyone will not care if they are like minivans, they will only care that they look like trucks and not minivans. Time will tell but so far the CUV prices are holding up.
Even if the Sienna gets regular doors it still will look like an ugly minivan, not a truck.
The minivan is dead, Long live the CUV!!
Just yesterday I talked to my neighbor. She needs a new vehicle, does not want another minivan(4 kids). Tried to get an extended trailblazer but found out not built anymore. Loved the Acadia and will be getting one if they can find one. Finding hard to find.
No. 07058
Subject: ...Automatic Transmission Sluggish Performance When Accelerating From a Low Speed Maneuver... (Reprogram TCM) #07-07-30-003 - (02/20/2007)
Reprogram the transmission control module (TCM) with the new updated calibration.
Affected VINs:
2007 GMC Acadia 7J100107 7J128619
2007 Saturn Outlook 7J100001 7J128620
There may be newer updates to this. I am not certain.
Karl
07058: Transmission Lag Recalibration (TSB)
Dealer Service Workorder, the code number of this Service Bulletin seems to be 07058 - "Svc Upd - Invent/Cust Veh - IMPROVED TRANS CONTROL CALS.
The Sienna only has 7 passenger capability for the AWD model, 1000 lbs less towing capicity, and has nearly identical invoice price tags for AWD.
XLE Limited-7 pass AWD invoice = $33,521
XLE-7 pass AWD invoice = $29,663
LE - 7 pass AWD invoice = $26,363
Acadia SLT-2 AWD invoice = $34,941
Acadia SLE-1 AWD invoice = $29,223
Outlook XE AWD invoice = $27,646
Look like SUV's, priced like minivans, interior capacity of minvans, towing capacity enough for most. No wonder they are selling so well.
But I recall reading how GM and a bunch of others were offering more integrated IPOD interfaces, here is a blurb I found:
"GM, on the other hand, has developed an iPod-specific device called the Personal Audio Link. This gadget, the size of a deck of cards, synchronizes the music player with the car's XM Satellite Radio band so that the XM interface can be used as controls--including displaying the song and artist information on the XM screen.
Like Ford's TripTunes Advanced, GM's iPod integration system will be located in the glove compartment and will also be able to charge the iPod while the ignition is running. The Personal Audio Link will make its debut this October in the 2006 and 2007 Chevrolet HHR sport utility vehicles; the carmaker will then gradually introduce the hardware into all 56 of its new car and truck models sold in the United States--mostly by the end of 2007.
GM's device will be an opt-in feature, retailing for about $160 plus installation charges. According to a statement from GM, a subscription to XM Satellite Radio will not be required for the Personal Audio Link to work."
Anyone have this set-up?
B.
Some of us like sliders, although I must admit that I haven't shopped any crossovers (or anything else lately for that matter).
GIVE ME A BREAK---
No wonder GM will soon become #2 or #3 they dont get it yet.
Sad thing is I would have gladly traded my Toyota for this vehicle. Guess I will wait till the new highlander comes out or treat myself with the new MDX. Can you say 1 with everything, please.
I agree with you, this Onstar deal is for suckers who don't know any better (no offense to anyone).
Back in 1996, Saturn broke ground for General Motors when it showed the automaker how to execute its first rolling model change. Former Saturn engineers are still teaching the practice around GM today.
Spring Hill was built to emulate GM's efficient Japanese competitors, who routinely switch models without stopping the assembly line. Detroit 3 factories typically had shut down for weeks to prepare for new models.
On Friday, March 30, Spring Hill built its last Saturn vehicle. Starting this week, the plant will be out of commission for 16 months as technicians and contractors remove equipment, redesign assembly lines and introduce a new vehicle, a Chevrolet crossover.