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Toyota on the mend?

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The V rated highly. Go figure.

    Wonder how they'll rate V vs. C-Max?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 44,169
    "J.P.Morgan lowered its earnings estimates for Toyota Motor Corp. for this year and next on the assumption that the automaker's sales in China will drop 50 percent in the fourth quarter. It cut its sales estimate for Toyota in China by 15 percent in 2013."

    Dispute rattles Japan's automakers (Detroit News)

    Maybe Nissan will switch over to Renaults for that market.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm surprised they still plan to sell any cars at all.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 44,169
    Leaves a bigger opening for GM and VW.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sure does.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 44,169

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    CR tallied up the surveys and the 3 brands on top were Scion, Toyota, and Lexus.

    Wow.

    Forecast for October is +20% over last year.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,204
    edited October 2012
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    Ford is near the bottom which is amazing to see. I don't thinnk they have ever ranked that far down. It's supposedly related to the MFT system but there are some problems with the trannys and EcoBoost engines as well...

    Absolutely amazed by the improvements over at Audi as well. Where is Andres3? His A3 may not be an anomoly after all. :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Jags consistently suck, LOL.

    Note the wide spreads from Nissan, Mini, BMW and Ford.
  • berriberri Posts: 4,573
    That's the best chart I've seen of this data. Thanks
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 44,169
    edited October 2012
    Now explain this disconnect please, where Toyota is "just" number two:

    Ford is top brand (autonews.com)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 35,312
    I like how variants of the same car can be best and worst (E sedan and cabrio, G sedan and cabrio). Also that engine size seems to be an issue - I wonder if a "problem" is people complaining about mileage...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    People might like MyFord touch even though they have a lot to complain about.

    Ford took risks, and I don't think they should be scolded for doing so. It's growing pains. They're the first to go mainstream with this type of interface. People are slow to learn and want buttons and knobs, but they'll get used to it eventually and Ford's numbers will creep back up.

    Also, a revision came out this year and I bet not everyone has it yet.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Cabrio is a big change - you can get lots of body creaks and rattles, wind noise. Much harder to execute than a coupe.

    Buffy's complaining about her hair being messed up. :D

    Also, the spread is not all that wide for Mercedes. They actually got most cars near average.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 35,312
    I guess I would need to see the "problems". I'm also kind of surprised each model had enough volume to appear, as both are less than big sellers.

    The MB average thing amused me too - right in the middle, and a small range. For a complex German car on a sometimes iffy ranking systrem, "average" is pretty good.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    IIRC they look for sample sizes of 1000 of more.

    They must have talked to every single G37c owner! LOL

    Benz did well indeed. In the past they've had some truly awful scores for their trucks. I think the ML was worst in the survey at one point.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 35,312
    I wouldn't be surprised if G cabrio sales were indeed about that low.

    I was expecting to see the ML as the worst. Maybe it was second. Oh well, at least the E ranks high, as it is such a volume seller, that bodes well.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    ML had been improving steadily. Wonder if more diesels in the mix also boosted scores?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 35,312
    Couldn't hurt - I don't understand who buys any MB SUV in gas form. Or maybe after 15 years of production, they are finally getting it right.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Funny to see the divas pumping diesel in Potomac and slipping around. The gas stations at Westfield Shoppingtown Montgomery offers full service at no cost to address that issue.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 35,312
    In Europe/Germany, many stations provide gloves for diesel. Maybe that will become common if diesel catches on in NA. I can't imagine princess messing up her precious hands with that smelly fuel, indeed.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 44,169
    edited November 2012
    I saw that at some Boise stations a few years back. Lasted about a month. Could be some behind the counters if you ask but I doubt it.

    Wait until it gets on their heels. Hubby will have to switch cars.

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  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,274
    edited November 2012
    Heck, the gas station for the Giant supermarket in Willow Grove, PA provides disposable gloves at all the pumps, gasoline or diesel.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,204
    edited November 2012
    25 Million and Counting

    About 70 percent of all Toyota vehicles sold in the U.S. are built in North America, and the company directly employs 37,000 people on this continent.

    Even the most ignorant, "Buy Murican", anti-import types should see this as a positive. :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Honda just had a similar milestone with Accord production in Marysville, Ohio.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sandy took a hit and hurt the last few days of the month, but October is the slowest month of the year anyway, so no better time to absorb that hit.

    Toyota gained a bit of share, up 16%, market was only up 7%. GM up 5%, Chrysler up 10%, Ford was flat.

    Toyota reported that 4000 cars were flood damaged, and 15 dealerships also had damage.

    Smart was up 200%, so I think they sold 3 cars this October vs. just one car last October. ;)

    Lexus was up 10%, BMW up 21%, M-B up 6%, Audi up 15%. Hmm, I'd read the lux market would take a bigger hit but it seems like nobody told them about that.

    Source: AN sales report e-mail broadcast.
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