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2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan

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  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    I like the current look of the Accord better than the the Japanese version...looks sleeker and less chopped up.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    To me, our version looks bland. The best thing (in terms of exterior styling) to have come out of 2003-2007 Accord was the rear end of the coupe. It revived an old design (used in 1G TL, 2G CL) with pleasing updates and looks upscale up close, and good from a distance.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Thanks. I actually like 'em both. When is Honda going to give us a nice pre drilled place to mount our front license plates?
  • blaneblane Member Posts: 2,017
    "Pre drilled place to mount our front license plates?" No problem. When a dealer delivers my car, it's their job to transfer my plates.
  • vital411vital411 Member Posts: 67
    Ya the dealer can attach the plate but it would be nice if it looked like it belongs rather then such a cheap after-thought.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    at the picture pf the 08 Accord Sedan that somebody posted on this thread is it just my imaganation or does the gille of the 08 Accord Sedan resemble the 96 Accord grille?
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    Didn't your car come with one of these, to mount a front lisence plate to? It mounts under the lip of the bumper so there are no visible holes.
    http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/EXV6NIGHTHAWK/?action=view&current=DSC008- 01.jpg
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Thanks,Elroy. My yahoo browser is having a "linking" problem so I can't see the bracket. My dealer did install some sort of bracket but they had to drill,in the mechanical sense, my bumper. Hated to watch 'em do it.
  • goodegggoodegg Member Posts: 905
    When is Honda going to give us a nice pre drilled place to mount our front license plates?

    We don't have front license plates in the Southeast.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Lucky you! Guess that's the bad news answer.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Member Posts: 992
    Actually they do!

    IMO, honda needs to start getting some new technology ready. EG, an ipod interface. Maybe something similar to Ford's Sync. Push button start (the s2k has had it since 2000! :mad: ) and cooled seats seems like something to get into now while its somewhat fresh.

    -Cj
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    Well Superhonda isn't correct.

    Here is the true insider info from the ride and drive.

    2.4L 177 HP iVtec i4
    2.4L 190 HP iVtec v6
    3.5L 268 HP iVtec v6 w/ VCM (Sedan)
    3.5L 268 HP iVtec v6 w/o VCM (Coupe)

    Coupes aren't getting VCM. The navi will be a joystick navi with over 700 commands. No more touch screen. No DX model but 2 different lx models. LX-P adds power drivers seat, security systems, and other stuff. The Navi wont have traffic but will have bluetooth. The rumors for the full size class are true. The Rear seat will be the biggest in its class. More evolutionary then revolutionary. Hope this helps.

    http://vtec.net/forums/one-message?message_id=701115 for the source
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    2.4L 177 HP iVtec i4
    2.4L 190 HP iVtec v6
    3.5L 268 HP iVtec v6 w/ VCM (Sedan)
    3.5L 268 HP iVtec v6 w/o VCM (Coupe)


    Just wondering if you can confirm whether or not the Sedan with the V6 will have a manual tranny?
    Thanks.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    2.4L 190 HP iVtec v6

    Huh???

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  • fxguyfxguy Member Posts: 132
    The 190HP is NOT a V6. Its a regular i4. Slight typo by the OP.
  • eldainoeldaino Member Posts: 1,618
    i would hope so, seeing as how if honda could eck that hp out of a 4 cyl, they should do better if it was a v-6!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    ah. ok. thanks. kind of what i figured. but what makes the difference in HP between the 2?

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  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Could be VTEC at intake and exhaust (like TSX) as opposed to only intake side. Or it could be A-VTEC!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    well, both in the list just say iVTEC, which is why i'm asking. I think it strange they would bother producing 2 different 4-bangers for the Accord. Seems like it would be more trouble than its worth.

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  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Not really. They have been doing that for years, and is the primary difference between the 2.4-liter i-VTEC engine in TSX compared to the 2.4-liter i-VTEC engine used in Accord/CR-V/Element.

    In TSX, VTEC is applied at intake as well as exhaust sides. This has resulted in a broader torque curve, with over 90% of (higher) peak torque available from 2000 rpm to 7000 rpm.

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    In CR-V, VTEC is applied only at intake. It has a broad torque but not quite to the levels of TSX's. 90% or better of its peak torque is available from about 2200 rpm to about 6200 rpm.

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    Honda has offered multiple engine designs on same models quite a bit. Integra was a lower volume car, but offered with three variations of similar engines (although the third had more differences than the other two, they were all B-series).

    And in Accord lineup, prior to MY1998 EX got VTEC while DX/LX didn't. 1998-2002 Accord had DX without VTEC, other two got it. 2003-2007 is the only generation to have all trims share a four cylinder engine.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,889
    the primary difference between the 2.4-liter i-VTEC engine in TSX compared to the 2.4-liter i-VTEC engine used in Accord/CR-V/Element

    that i knew.

    2003-2007 is the only generation to have all trims share a four cylinder engine.

    that i didn't. i never gave the accord a second glance until the V6 6-speed came along.

    thanks for the info.

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  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    It's a 2.4L 190 HP i4

    The v6 sedan cant be ordered with a manual tranny. Only a 5 speed automatic transmission. The EX-L v6 coupe will have a manual transmission.
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    21/30 for the i4's
    19/29 for the v6

    Dont complain about the gas mileage. It's competitive with the competition. This car is using the 08 mileage ratings so it had to drop down a little.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Then, it has gone up for the V6 (would be 21/32 mpg by old standards) and slightly down for the I-4s (would be 23/33 by old standards).
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    This page will show you all current info about the current

    Here are the numbers for the 2007 Accord, old and new standards, so you can make the comparisons to how the new one would fare under either test.

    23 City 31 Hwy (2.4L 5MT)

    21 City 31 Hwy (2.4L 5AT)

    18 City 27 Hwy (3.0L 6MT)

    18 City 26 Hwy (3.0L 5AT)

    ***

    21 City (Even) 30 Hwy (-1)(2008 2.4L)

    19 City (+1) 29 Hwy (+3)(2008 3.5L)
  • jet10000jet10000 Member Posts: 656

    21/30 for the i4's
    19/29 for the v6

    Dont complain about the gas mileage. It's competitive with the competition. This car is using the 08 mileage ratings so it had to drop down a little.


    For comparison here are the 2007 Accord New Gas ratings from the government's web-site.

    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

    4 cyl, 2.4 L, Man(5), Regular 23 city 31 hwy
    4 cyl, 2.4 L, Auto(5), Regular 21 city 31 hwy
    6 cyl, 3 L, Man(6), Regular 18 city 27 hwy
    6 cyl, 3 L, Auto(5), Regular 18 city 26 hwy

    It looks like the 4 cyl is about the same and the 6 has actually jumped up. That's great considering the extra horses the 6 will now have. Gotta love the Honda engineers.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Looks like we were thinking the same thing!
  • maddog11maddog11 Member Posts: 42
    Judging by the 2008 TSX's EPA figures went down 2 MPG in city driving and 3 MPG on the highway, the 2008 4 cylinder's estimates are about the same. The 3.5 268 HP 6 cylinder in the Accord gets better mileage than the 3.2 258 HP in the TL; the Honda gets 1 MPG better in the city and 3 MPG on the highway - that's impressive.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Yep.

    The new standard has completely messed up my expectations. I simply add 10% to the new estimates to see what I might get under leadfooted driving. That means, the new Accord V6 should be good for 25 mpg in mixed driving (I get 24 mpg in my 06 TL). Very impressive.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    I bet at least 2 of these engines are AVTEC.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    The 3.5 268 HP 6 cylinder in the Accord gets better mileage than the 3.2 258 HP in the TL;

    This is one reason I think the V6 will be the 3.2, and not the 3.5. I will believe 3.5 when I see it. The Accord having a larger engine than the TL doesn't seem likely or necessary, to me.
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    The person who went to the ride and drive said engines all had i-Vtec.
  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    A-VTEC? That's strange...
    One of the rumors earlier was that A-VTEC would be available...
  • fxguyfxguy Member Posts: 132
    I think its too early for A-VTEC
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    3.2L A-VTEC is my guess, with 265hp.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Thanks. But,then,where did the extra power come from?
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    The 4th gen (92 models) had the same engines across the board. The EX had 15 more hp (125 vs 140) from intake and exhaust manifold, and bypass valve modifications.
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    Well apparently a Honda document is now confirming 273 hp. I really have no idea how much HP. I guess we must wait until the 21st.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Looks like my suspcions were correct. Just like with the Civic - gas mileage did not go up (for the stick shift model) despite Honda claiming better efficiency.

    I suppose efficiency could technically have gone up - given the greater weight and greater hp that the engine has to deal with, but the end result is no better gas mileage for the 4-cyl. So glad I bought the 07. Hopefully the diesel will remedy things.

    With gas more than double what it was when the previous generation came out I wonder why so much emphasis on power, and status quo on mpg (with the exception of the V6 - which still uses more fuel than the I4)
  • angelus1angelus1 Member Posts: 23
    will the 190 hp be std in all the coupes? or is that just for the ex?
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    'Cause the lead time on each generation is 4 to 5 years and preceded the jump in U. S. gas prices.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Still think we will see AVTEC. It is definitely 3.5.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Did your buddy look at the engine?
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    It is definitely 3.5.

    Where's the proof? I need evidence! ;)
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Accord will have a larger engine for now, while TL is due for a redesign soon. Mileage improvement from the V6 seem to come from the new VCM system. Unlike the first generation VCM (used in Accord Hybrid, Odyssey and Pilot w/2WD) which was a 6-3 system, the second generation will be a 6-4-3 system. So, there will be occasions when the engine will operate in three or four cylinder mode.

    The last specs I've heard...
    3471 cc (3.5-liter), 273 HP @ 6200 rpm, 250 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm, 6800 rpm redline. I think this is a detuned version of the engine in Acura TL Type-S (to use regular grade gasoline), with VCM added.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    If V6 delivers the rated mileage, it has closed the gap with I-4, but by taking advantage of new VCM system as I mentioned earlier. The updated I-4 should still be good for 25-26 mpg in mixed driving, an mpg better than the V6. And both are likely to be rated with regular grade gasoline despite power increases.

    I think Honda will reserve A-VTEC for another launch, and offer it in Accord with MMC or so. We may know more about it at Tokyo Motor Show.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    I've seen 3.5 too many times in too many places. 'Course I don't have pictures. :)
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Too bad re the VCM. I would rather have no VCM. Just more simple that way. Academic for me, I'm waiting for the diesel.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    VCM is basically another application of VTEC. Its not complicated really (other than to negate the NVH issues that I'm sure Honda has worked thru).

    Diesel might be a good option, but only for mileage. Performance it won't offer. So, it comes down to priorities.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    I like the idea of a 180" Crv with 260 ft pounds of torque for my garage/toy box. + fuel prices are only going up and I try to drive my cars 10 years.
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