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2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan
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And sometimes leaving a thing or two out also makes higher trims more desirable even though the thing might just be something as trivial as a trunk lid liner. And then there is the desire for dealerships to make more money. Honda already makes their life more difficult (and consumers’, easier) by equipping and pricing cars by trim. When I go to buy Accord EX-L, I know the exact specifications, features and price. It leaves less room for dealerships to fiddle with options and packages. They are only left with accessories.
Actually cheaper similarly equipped.
In my Lexus I couldn't hear any wind noise while driving on freeways, But in Accord I can hear it much...Is that normal with all accord models? I wont care if it is normal coz I know i bought One of the Best car in the World.
I have never thought it was even a problem at all. It is normal.
Honda vehicles are very rarely the quietest in their class (And often times are close to having the most noise in class). I know my Accord (2006 4-cyl) is louder than a competing Camry. Hondas are more about the driving experience and less about creating a cocoon of isolation that Toyota vehicles do so well, as evidenced by the much tauter suspension and quicker steering of the Honda equivalent to Toyota vehicles (Civic v. Corolla, etc).
The short version - I'd assume your noise level is normal. It just seems louder coming from a Lexus.
If you'd like, I bet a dealer would oblige you for a short drive in another 2008 model to compare yours to, and see if yours in fact has an abnormality. My guess is that it does not, though.
Hope that helps!
-TheGrad
I heard you lease your car, when are you going to trade in your car? I lease my car too, and have 1 more year left, but atleast, (in miles) 4mths or so over my lease. let me know, I'd be curious on when you going to do it or if you are.
Right now, I would walk away from it, breaking even.
I really like the EX-L 4cyl, navi
06 EX Cloth, 25,750 miles.
I could say the same of my 08 Accord sedan. In my opinion, it looks much better from the back then from the front. The front looks somewhat sterile (Although the slight air-dam that is provided on the bottom of the 08 Accord V6 front bumper significantly, if not subtly, helps!! -- I'm a bit mad at Honda for not putting the same bumper cladding on my 4cyl EX-L.)
I think this is true of many different makes and models. The back of the cars look much better than the front-ends. Is this a safety-related issue, or am I missing the boat on front-end style?
Yes, the EU is requiring crumple zones for pedestrians, so hood are all higher now. The Camry/ES350 do a particularly poor job of dealing with this, but they're all affected. The Accord front is OK, much improved (IMHO), but I do wonder on the Coupe why they had to add that extra seam that's missing on the sedan.
Funny, I actually think the more substantial "nose" looks better I don't like the low, thin snouts that were popular on previous Accords, although I know it helps outward visibility. I just think the new front looks more voluptuous. IMHO :shades:
Detroit Free Press review - 2008 Honda Accord EX
To those who own one, is the part about the gap disparities correct?
No, your comment was clear (you said you thought it was an improvement) - mine wasn't. Sorry! I was referring more to the general design theme of having a larger "nose," or more bulging hood, i.e. Camry, ES350, et all... To me it signifies more engine or more power lurking beneath. :shades: It's just my take, I'm sure to others it looks goofy, but I've always liked it.
In case of Accord, ACE body structure has been implemented. Besides helping reduce pedestrian injury, it does two other things.
- It makes the front end more compatible with vehicles that are higher off the ground (in other words, SUVs and trucks). In case of a collision, it reduces the chance of being “run over” by the higher vehicle (or going under them). This is to protect the occupants of the car.
- It also makes the front end more compatible with lower vehicles. In case of a collision, it will engage the bumper or structure of the lower car instead of running over them. This is to protect the occupants of the other vehicle.
I had also heard of EU requiring automakers to design cars with some room between the hood and the engine. This was supposed to be a part of pedestrian safety design initiative.
Honda didn’t do it, but some automakers have managed to make the front look even stubbier in the name of style (or to reduce length) by eliminating the front bumper. Take a look at Camry or 300C, and there is no front bumper. The grill is the bumper.
In case of coupe, Honda did make it a little stubbier than the sedan, and unlike the sedan where the grill actually tapers backwards, the grill is more upright. This may be an explanation to the question on the seam. Other than extending the hood all the way to the grill (perhaps making it longer in the coupe than in the sedan), it can’t be taken away.
Another good example of the same. Check out the seam on Lexus LF-A here.
They say that fuel economy is merely midpack with 21/31. Besides the Altima and its CVT, and Hybrid vehicles, what car has better fuel economy in this class?
Thanks grad!
I realized it was early, but I have seen countless new owners ask about break-in procedures and when to get the first oil change done. That would be the place to do it!
Happy Hondaing!
TheGrad
How about both? The liner to cover the dynamat. I'm embarrassed to say my '08 EXL is only 3 weeks old & I'm looking for ways to make it quieter.
BTW -- I'm interested to hear the discontent with the road noise in the 08 Accord --that is not a complaint I would have with mine. It seems very quiet!! It is particularly disconcerting given the fact that Honda double-sealed all the doors to try to minimize road noise and seal out rain. Further, Honda clearly is concerned about having a quiet interior when they add the engine noise-cancelling technology to all the EX models.
2008 Honda Accord Frontal Offset Test Evaluation from IIHS
The only noise issue is tire noise, but that really depends on the road surface. On some concrete the tires whine, but on normal apshalt, again pretty quiet.
If I have the windows up and roof closed, on a smooth highway, it is very serene. Maybe not as tomblike as a Lexus, but you can converse easily, and there isn't enough ambient noise to bother me, cause fatique, etc.
Of course, in my case, usually the radio is cranking a bit and the roof is open whenever possible, so I don't often go for max quiet!
Oh, and the 4 cyl just buzzes along without intruding at all. Best part of the car.
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I tried those tires in my Accord, and it made a big difference. It also improved handling and may have improved braking too (but who really measures it). The downside, the first set didn't last long. The second set acquired under (limited) warranty on first didn't either. And it was puncture prone. I didn't go back to OEM set (Michelin Energy MXV4) but primarily for cost reasons. Now have Bridgestone Turanza which is pretty good. Tires do make a big difference.
But, under identical tires, a Honda is still going to be a bit noisier than a Toyota. Part of this comes from Toyota's obsession to isolate inside from the out. It works well in some cases and for many people, but it also takes away some aspects of driving experience that many others want. Firmer suspension has a tendency to transmit more noise to begin with. Then, whatever noise can make thru the steering wheel might be isolatable via technique in the steering wheel but likely at the expense of steering feel.
The whole thing is like the feel of a manual transmission that uses direct manual linkage versus, say, a wire system. The former provides greater feel but also will let you know of everything happening under the stick.
PS. There is another thread to discuss tires.
Huh? No offense intended here, but torque and Honda don't even belong in the same sentence! That is my long time grievance against Honda - the fact that their engines don't even feel alive until somewhere north of 4k on the tach. Beyond that, yeah - they're strong, but definately biased for high RPM horse power, not torque. Toyota's 3.5L feels way more powerful than Honda's 3.5 - I currently own both (2004 Odyssey that I'm trying to sell, and 2007 Sienna XLE Ltd.) and there is no comparison. Even the old Sienna 3.3L had a stronger bottom end than the Honda 3.5L.
As a matter of fact, the 3.3-liter V6 that powered Sienna, also powered Camry, and guess what, in mid range acceleration tests, even Accord I-4 (w/automatic transmission) could matched it. The key is gearing. And in case of Sienna versus Odyssey, it could also be the weight.
The perception that Honda engines don't have torque is outdated and seriously flawed.
You mentioned you have Bridgestone Turanza's on your Accord.
Are these the new Turanza Serenity? From what I've read these are quieter than most. Are your Turanza's noticeably quieter than the Michelin OEM's? How about wet/dry traction?
Thanks
http://www.edmunds.com/honda/accord/2008/consumerreview.1...5670063.html
Not so fast... I don't mean to get us off topic, but I've driven both back to back - my wifes friend has on 06 Sienna 3.3L. It outguns our '04 Ody off the line and the shorter gearing makes it easier to use the power. It feels stronger because it puts more power down earlier than the Ody and unlike the Honda 3.5L which doesn't wake up until about 4300 RPM, the Toyota 3.3L has a broad, flat torque curve - the power feels the same from idle to redline. It's not as exciting as the surge you get with the Honda engine, but the power is always there. It depends on what you like - I just like the flat torque curve.
As a matter of fact, the 3.3-liter V6 that powered Sienna, also powered Camry, and guess what, in mid range acceleration tests, even Accord I-4 (w/automatic transmission) could matched it. The key is gearing. And in case of Sienna versus Odyssey, it could also be the weight.
I just don't believe that the Accord 4cyl runs with the Camry 3.3L - show me the data. The Accord 4 cyl 5A runs 0-60 in 8 sec's, the Camry 3.3L 5A in a little under 7 sec's. The gap just gets wider as speed increases.
The perception that Honda engines don't have torque is outdated and seriously flawed.
Actually, Honda's pre-VTEC engines felt stronger in the low end. My buddies old 1990 Legend coupe 5 speed felt great off the line in its day. Every VTEC engined Honda or Acura I've driven (my '04 Ody, a 1998 Prelude SH, a 2002 Accord V6, 2006 RL) has had comparatively high specific output, but lacked low end grunt. It's just how they are tuned - it looks good on paper as the 0-100 and 1/4 mile times are usually better, but to my seat of the pants driving in the real world, the power isn't as usuable when you have to rev the engine harder to get it. Keep in mind my most recent experience involves carrying more than just myself in the car - with a wife and four kids and all their stuff, you really notice the high RPM bias and wish there was more grunt down low. Our 07 Sienna 3.5L feels like a rocket compared to our '04 Ody. I'm just being real - don't be offended :shades: I still think the TL is one of the hottest 4 doors around for the money and it certainly doesn't seem to suffer in terms of acceleration. I'm not as Toyota biased as my name suggests - only have one Toyota at the moment. Other car is a Maxima, and we still have our '04 Ody until it sells.
It's interesting how the RL has a great looking front end, but a bland looking rear, while the Accord, IMHO, suffers a bit from the opposite problem -- a bland front end with a rather sporty rear. Hmmmmmm -- I faced this same dilemma in equally brilliant girlfriends once.....
(I love the design on the concept car (right). But, that might be a little racy given the intended audience!)
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